In this episode ⁠Hanh Doan talks to some of her PGCE music students (now qualified teachers) about diversifying and decolonising the music curriculum. The students are Olivia Celoleskaj, Lewis White and David Woods. The dialogue is interspersed with Hanh reading Nathan Holder’s poem ‘If I Were a Racist'.

FURTHER RESOURCES:

• Nathan Holder’s ⁠If I Were a Racist⁠

EPISODE NOTES:

Hanh Doan is a Senior Lecturer in Initial Teacher Education and has been PGCE Music lead since September 2023, as well as being a Senior Academic Skills Tutor at the University of Hertfordshire. Before coming to the University of Hertfordshire, Hanh was a secondary school music teacher for 19 years. In this time, decolonising the music curriculum became an emerging interest, but Hanh is clear about being at the start of a personal and professional journey. She sees her role with trainee teachers to expose them to ideas and philosophies within and outside music education.

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Edited by Chris Lloyd.