Search a title or topic

Over 20 million podcasts, powered by 

Player FM logo
Artwork

Content provided by Jackson Dahl. All podcast content including episodes, graphics, and podcast descriptions are uploaded and provided directly by Jackson Dahl or their podcast platform partner. If you believe someone is using your copyrighted work without your permission, you can follow the process outlined here https://podcastplayer.com/legal.
Player FM - Podcast App
Go offline with the Player FM app!

26: Cyan Banister - A Fool’s Dérive

1:59:16
 
Share
 

Manage episode 501300542 series 3653492
Content provided by Jackson Dahl. All podcast content including episodes, graphics, and podcast descriptions are uploaded and provided directly by Jackson Dahl or their podcast platform partner. If you believe someone is using your copyrighted work without your permission, you can follow the process outlined here https://podcastplayer.com/legal.

Cyan Banister (Website, X, Substack) is an investor, artist, and co-founder and General Partner of Long Journey Ventures. Previously, Cyan spent four years at Founders Fund and has a legendary angel investing track record alongside her husband, Scott, including early rounds in SpaceX, Uber, and DeepMind.

Cyan is as original as they come: she grew up on a Navajo reservation and was homeless by 15, with a series of unlikely serendipitous moments combined with optimism, agency, and love of capitalism taking her to a very different life than the one she grew up with. I focused this conversation not on Cyan's work, but her unique approach to living.

We begin with Cyan’s “church”: a weekly visit to see Bobby McFerrin and co. do live, jazz acapella in Berkeley, CA. We discuss how this space ties to presence, openness, and play, and then talk about the tension between novelty and consistency as she continues on her own path toward self-love and mindfulness. She also tells me about her radical approach to accountability and the empowering results of assuming that everything is her fault.

One of Cyan's favorite words is the French dérive, or an intentional drift, and it embodies her approach to the world. She moves with childlike wonder, seeking to see things and people from new perspectives and challenging others to react beyond their default settings. She daydreams about the outcomes she wants and has remarkable conviction and faith even when others do not believe her.

We wrap with a grab bag representative of Cyan's diverse interests, from filmmaking and performance art to the US Constitution to Bill Murray. Cyan manages to combine randomness and intentionality, naiveté and sober-minded awareness, humility and conviction. I hope you are are as inspired as I am to live more playfully, seriously, and courageously.

Full transcript is available at https://dialectic.fm/cyan-banister

Timestamps

  • 0:01:23: Intro
  • 0:03:45: Cyan's "Church"
  • 0:16:21: Stillness, Mindfulness, and Introspection
  • 0:28:47: Learning to See in Original Ways
  • 0:39:38: People: When the "Light is On," "Collecting Minds," and Conjuring Friends
  • 0:46:55: Cultivating Childlike Joy and Refusing to be a Victim
  • 0:52:30: Radical Accountability
  • 0:56:28: Randomness, Faith, and Experimentation
  • 1:06:22: Conviction and Peter Thiel
  • 1:12:54: Returning to Seed Investing and Long Journey Ventures
  • 1:18:23: Thoughts on Art
  • 1:23:42: Performance Art
  • 1:26:37: Cyan's Creative Projects
  • 1:32:51: Boredom
  • 1:36:06: Living Around Elderly People
  • 1:42:14: Pete Buttigieg
  • 1:45:57: Being a Role Model
  • 1:48:26: Young People's Future
  • 1:52:46: Scott Banister and Lessons for Her Kids
  • 1:55:35: "It Just Doesn't Matter" And Who Pulls the Strings

Key Links

Dialectic with Jackson Dahl is available on all podcast platforms.
Join the ⁠telegram channel for Dialectic⁠
Follow ⁠Dialectic on Twitter⁠
Follow Dialectic on Instagram
Subscribe to Dialectic on YouTube

  continue reading

27 episodes

Artwork
iconShare
 
Manage episode 501300542 series 3653492
Content provided by Jackson Dahl. All podcast content including episodes, graphics, and podcast descriptions are uploaded and provided directly by Jackson Dahl or their podcast platform partner. If you believe someone is using your copyrighted work without your permission, you can follow the process outlined here https://podcastplayer.com/legal.

Cyan Banister (Website, X, Substack) is an investor, artist, and co-founder and General Partner of Long Journey Ventures. Previously, Cyan spent four years at Founders Fund and has a legendary angel investing track record alongside her husband, Scott, including early rounds in SpaceX, Uber, and DeepMind.

Cyan is as original as they come: she grew up on a Navajo reservation and was homeless by 15, with a series of unlikely serendipitous moments combined with optimism, agency, and love of capitalism taking her to a very different life than the one she grew up with. I focused this conversation not on Cyan's work, but her unique approach to living.

We begin with Cyan’s “church”: a weekly visit to see Bobby McFerrin and co. do live, jazz acapella in Berkeley, CA. We discuss how this space ties to presence, openness, and play, and then talk about the tension between novelty and consistency as she continues on her own path toward self-love and mindfulness. She also tells me about her radical approach to accountability and the empowering results of assuming that everything is her fault.

One of Cyan's favorite words is the French dérive, or an intentional drift, and it embodies her approach to the world. She moves with childlike wonder, seeking to see things and people from new perspectives and challenging others to react beyond their default settings. She daydreams about the outcomes she wants and has remarkable conviction and faith even when others do not believe her.

We wrap with a grab bag representative of Cyan's diverse interests, from filmmaking and performance art to the US Constitution to Bill Murray. Cyan manages to combine randomness and intentionality, naiveté and sober-minded awareness, humility and conviction. I hope you are are as inspired as I am to live more playfully, seriously, and courageously.

Full transcript is available at https://dialectic.fm/cyan-banister

Timestamps

  • 0:01:23: Intro
  • 0:03:45: Cyan's "Church"
  • 0:16:21: Stillness, Mindfulness, and Introspection
  • 0:28:47: Learning to See in Original Ways
  • 0:39:38: People: When the "Light is On," "Collecting Minds," and Conjuring Friends
  • 0:46:55: Cultivating Childlike Joy and Refusing to be a Victim
  • 0:52:30: Radical Accountability
  • 0:56:28: Randomness, Faith, and Experimentation
  • 1:06:22: Conviction and Peter Thiel
  • 1:12:54: Returning to Seed Investing and Long Journey Ventures
  • 1:18:23: Thoughts on Art
  • 1:23:42: Performance Art
  • 1:26:37: Cyan's Creative Projects
  • 1:32:51: Boredom
  • 1:36:06: Living Around Elderly People
  • 1:42:14: Pete Buttigieg
  • 1:45:57: Being a Role Model
  • 1:48:26: Young People's Future
  • 1:52:46: Scott Banister and Lessons for Her Kids
  • 1:55:35: "It Just Doesn't Matter" And Who Pulls the Strings

Key Links

Dialectic with Jackson Dahl is available on all podcast platforms.
Join the ⁠telegram channel for Dialectic⁠
Follow ⁠Dialectic on Twitter⁠
Follow Dialectic on Instagram
Subscribe to Dialectic on YouTube

  continue reading

27 episodes

All episodes

×
 
Loading …

Welcome to Player FM!

Player FM is scanning the web for high-quality podcasts for you to enjoy right now. It's the best podcast app and works on Android, iPhone, and the web. Signup to sync subscriptions across devices.

 

Copyright 2025 | Privacy Policy | Terms of Service | | Copyright
Listen to this show while you explore
Play