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Deep Thoughts about The Birdcage

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Shouldn't you be holding the crucifix? It is the prop for martyrs!

The 1996 film The Birdcage offered a revolutionary portrayal of gay love in a mainstream movie. Not only do we see a stable, loving, long-term relationship between Robin Williams’ Armand and Nathan Lane’s Albert, but the film is a funny and joyous celebration of being queer that doesn’t require a side of tragedy.

But as Tracie shares with us this week, not everything in this laugh-out-loud farce has aged well: Armand and Albert’s son Val is a straight-up villain (see what I did there?) who pressures his parents hide their true selves, Hank Azaria’s portrayal of Agador, the Guatemalan house boy, makes his character the butt of the joke (not to mention the fact that Azaria is a straight, white, Ashkenazi Jewish man playing a queer Latino), and the shortcuts the filmmakers use to show the hypocrisy of Gene Hackman’s Senator Keeley reify racist stereotypes.

The sisters still find a lot to love in this film that asks us to question assumptions about gender performance and family–even if they can never forgive Val.

We are family! I’ve got the Guy sisters with me. Get up everybody and listen!

CW: Discussions of homophobia and the AIDS epidemic

Mentioned in this episode:

The commentator who named Val THE villain of the 1990s:

https://crookedmarquee.com/why-the-birdcage-mattered-and-how-it-came-up-short/#google_vignette

Our theme music is "Professor Umlaut" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Learn more about Tracie and Emily (including our other projects), join the Guy Girls' family, secure exclusive access to bonus episodes, video versions, and early access to Deep Thou​​ghts by visiting us on Patreon or find us on ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/guygirls

We are Tracie Guy-Decker and Emily Guy Birken, known to our family as the Guy Girls.

We have super-serious day jobs. For the bona fides, visit our individual websites: tracieguydecker.com and emilyguybirken.com

We're hella smart and completely unashamed of our overthinking prowess. We love movies and tv, science fiction, comedy, and murder mysteries, good storytelling with lots of dramatic irony, and analyzing pop culture for gender dynamics, psychology, sociology, and whatever else we find.

  continue reading

Chapters

1. Deep Thoughts about The Birdcage (00:00:00)

2. Deep Thoughts About the Birdcage (00:00:01)

3. Family Drama in the Birdcage (00:07:53)

4. Unpacking Stereotypes in the Birdcage (00:23:28)

5. Gender Performance in the Birdcage (00:36:23)

6. Reimagining Gender and Sexuality in Film (00:50:35)

7. Engage With Media for Free Sticker (01:08:46)

92 episodes

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Content provided by Tracie Guy-Decker & Emily Guy Birken, Tracie Guy-Decker, and Emily Guy Birken. All podcast content including episodes, graphics, and podcast descriptions are uploaded and provided directly by Tracie Guy-Decker & Emily Guy Birken, Tracie Guy-Decker, and Emily Guy Birken or their podcast platform partner. If you believe someone is using your copyrighted work without your permission, you can follow the process outlined here https://podcastplayer.com/legal.

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Shouldn't you be holding the crucifix? It is the prop for martyrs!

The 1996 film The Birdcage offered a revolutionary portrayal of gay love in a mainstream movie. Not only do we see a stable, loving, long-term relationship between Robin Williams’ Armand and Nathan Lane’s Albert, but the film is a funny and joyous celebration of being queer that doesn’t require a side of tragedy.

But as Tracie shares with us this week, not everything in this laugh-out-loud farce has aged well: Armand and Albert’s son Val is a straight-up villain (see what I did there?) who pressures his parents hide their true selves, Hank Azaria’s portrayal of Agador, the Guatemalan house boy, makes his character the butt of the joke (not to mention the fact that Azaria is a straight, white, Ashkenazi Jewish man playing a queer Latino), and the shortcuts the filmmakers use to show the hypocrisy of Gene Hackman’s Senator Keeley reify racist stereotypes.

The sisters still find a lot to love in this film that asks us to question assumptions about gender performance and family–even if they can never forgive Val.

We are family! I’ve got the Guy sisters with me. Get up everybody and listen!

CW: Discussions of homophobia and the AIDS epidemic

Mentioned in this episode:

The commentator who named Val THE villain of the 1990s:

https://crookedmarquee.com/why-the-birdcage-mattered-and-how-it-came-up-short/#google_vignette

Our theme music is "Professor Umlaut" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Learn more about Tracie and Emily (including our other projects), join the Guy Girls' family, secure exclusive access to bonus episodes, video versions, and early access to Deep Thou​​ghts by visiting us on Patreon or find us on ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/guygirls

We are Tracie Guy-Decker and Emily Guy Birken, known to our family as the Guy Girls.

We have super-serious day jobs. For the bona fides, visit our individual websites: tracieguydecker.com and emilyguybirken.com

We're hella smart and completely unashamed of our overthinking prowess. We love movies and tv, science fiction, comedy, and murder mysteries, good storytelling with lots of dramatic irony, and analyzing pop culture for gender dynamics, psychology, sociology, and whatever else we find.

  continue reading

Chapters

1. Deep Thoughts about The Birdcage (00:00:00)

2. Deep Thoughts About the Birdcage (00:00:01)

3. Family Drama in the Birdcage (00:07:53)

4. Unpacking Stereotypes in the Birdcage (00:23:28)

5. Gender Performance in the Birdcage (00:36:23)

6. Reimagining Gender and Sexuality in Film (00:50:35)

7. Engage With Media for Free Sticker (01:08:46)

92 episodes

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