80 million downloads and humble enough to have a real conversation with me.

There is a great sense of joy and accomplishment when we make a decision and take a bold step forward to face our fears. I did that 10 years ago when I started following Kevin Miller on the Ziglar Show- yes that Ziglar. He had conversations with best-selling authors and thought leaders from a broad spectrum of back grounds. We connected on social media and occasionally he read some of my answers to prompts from his show on air, some with Zig Ziglar’s son Tom Ziglar. I felt heard. I felt like I had something valuable to contribute to a meaningful conversation about success or goal setting.

Later, while working on Ten Seconds of Boldness I reached out to him for an interview to discuss drive, desire, and motivation. That was a key part of adding credibility and a fresh voice to support what I had known most of my adult life-- that motivation is an inside job.

We stayed in touch over the years and recently I reached out and invited him to be my guest on the Dare to Be Great, Dare to Be You Podcast.

"I'd be honored." He replied without hesitation.

And in truth it was an honor for me to have a real conversation with someone who's experienced tremendous success as a pro cyclist, podcast host for the past 10 years, and a perpetually curious seeker of self-improvement.

His 1,650 podcast episodes have more than 80 million downloads!

Our vulnerable and unedited conversation isn't about all the external shiny objects and accolades most of us equate with our identity and success.

It's richer, deeper, and more meaningful than that. It’s about digging into the stuff of the heart and soul of motivation. Asking the question: what drive us to want to lead lives that matter?

I am privileged Kevin was kind enough to spend time with me and that we get to share our hour-long conversation about life with the rest of the world.

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About Kevin:

Facilitator of Philosophical Discussions & S.A.G.E. Guidance On The Path To Inner Peace

Kevin spent a lifetime pursuing achievements. He did it all. Until he couldn’t. Thus began his journey from high performance, confidence, and capability to the pursuit of inner peace. He now savors a contemplative life, researching what provides true fulfillment to himself and humanity. He shares this in his Kevin Miller Podcast, his writings, and now through the S.A.G.E. psychological model (sageprocess.com) where he works directly with people desiring inner peace through increased personal agency. Connect with Kevin on his podcast and at kevinmiller.co

The numbers people like to see, but fail to tell the real story:

• Former pro cyclist competing for 20 years in over 1,000 races
• 19 Business start ups
• Almost 32 years of marriage (now divorced)
• 9 children, 2 adopted
• 10 years podcasting, 1,650 episodes, and over 80 million downloads
• Deep conversations with over 300 of our world’s most influential educators in human potential
• Worked directly with 1,000s of people pursuing more fulfillment in their lives
• Author of What Drives You (McGraw Hill Publishing)

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About Shawn Langwell:

Shawn Langwell is an Inspirational Author, Speaker, and Sales & Executive Gap Mindset Coach/Consultant. He has written several transformational books including, Beyond Recovery, Ten Seconds of Boldness and its companion workbook, Morning Motivation, and Chill. He’s also the Past President of The California Writers Club (CWC), Redwood Writers, Past President of Toastmasters of Petaluma. Shawn lives in Northern California with his wife Crissi, and Maine Coon cat Cleo.

Find him at www.shawnlangwell.com.

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