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Turning Sheep Into Wolves: Brian Brushwood’s Plan to Defend Against the Scampocalypse
Manage episode 514031245 series 3594482
Magician, podcaster, and World’s Greatest Con creator Brian Brushwood joins us to talk about the coming Scampocalypse, where AI-powered deception meets human vulnerability. We dive into how magic, psychology, and “deceptive role play” can transform security awareness from boring quizzes into hands-on human defense training. Learn why Brian says it’s time to stop training “sheep” and start raising “wolves.”
Topics include:
• Why traditional phishing tests fail
• How AI is powering the next generation of scams
• What magicians know about deception that CISOs don’t
• The “sheep vs. wolf” model for human training
• How to gamify social engineering safely
- The Greatest Con Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/0xZYIEwtxkB1YxIENS7c6z?si=a6b654370c424128
- The Modern Rogue: https://www.youtube.com/@ModernRogue/
- ScamStuff: https://www.scamstuff.com/
- Brian Brushwood’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-brushwood/
Check out our Networking is King Course: How to Build a Career Through Real Connections
Chapters
1. Cold Open: Human Deception (00:00:00)
2. Sponsor: ACI Learning (00:01:41)
3. Meet Brian Brushwood (00:01:55)
4. Magic as Gateway to Social Engineering (00:03:10)
5. AI Deepfakes and Scam Economics (00:06:20)
6. Culture of “You Fooled Me” vs Stigma (00:08:08)
7. Tech Stack Arms Race, Human Stack Gap (00:10:18)
8. System One vs System Two Training (00:11:40)
9. The Sheep, the Fence, and the Wolf Mask (00:13:35)
10. A New Game: Opt‑In PvP Phishing (00:15:19)
11. Deepfake Drills and Zoom Parity Checks (00:17:15)
12. Catching a Shortchange Scam by Rhythm (00:20:04)
13. Gamification Without Shame (00:22:05)
14. Beyond Red Teams: Train Your Own Players (00:24:22)
15. HR, Culture, and Shared Reality as Security (00:26:09)
16. Offensive Mindset and Automatic Defenses (00:28:21)
17. Family SMS Scams: Building Roleplay Tools (00:31:16)
18. World’s Greatest Con: Lessons from History (00:34:19)
19. Callbacks, Community Input, Next Steps (00:37:19)
20. Sponsor Thanks & Closing CTA (00:51:07)
45 episodes
Manage episode 514031245 series 3594482
Magician, podcaster, and World’s Greatest Con creator Brian Brushwood joins us to talk about the coming Scampocalypse, where AI-powered deception meets human vulnerability. We dive into how magic, psychology, and “deceptive role play” can transform security awareness from boring quizzes into hands-on human defense training. Learn why Brian says it’s time to stop training “sheep” and start raising “wolves.”
Topics include:
• Why traditional phishing tests fail
• How AI is powering the next generation of scams
• What magicians know about deception that CISOs don’t
• The “sheep vs. wolf” model for human training
• How to gamify social engineering safely
- The Greatest Con Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/0xZYIEwtxkB1YxIENS7c6z?si=a6b654370c424128
- The Modern Rogue: https://www.youtube.com/@ModernRogue/
- ScamStuff: https://www.scamstuff.com/
- Brian Brushwood’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-brushwood/
Check out our Networking is King Course: How to Build a Career Through Real Connections
Chapters
1. Cold Open: Human Deception (00:00:00)
2. Sponsor: ACI Learning (00:01:41)
3. Meet Brian Brushwood (00:01:55)
4. Magic as Gateway to Social Engineering (00:03:10)
5. AI Deepfakes and Scam Economics (00:06:20)
6. Culture of “You Fooled Me” vs Stigma (00:08:08)
7. Tech Stack Arms Race, Human Stack Gap (00:10:18)
8. System One vs System Two Training (00:11:40)
9. The Sheep, the Fence, and the Wolf Mask (00:13:35)
10. A New Game: Opt‑In PvP Phishing (00:15:19)
11. Deepfake Drills and Zoom Parity Checks (00:17:15)
12. Catching a Shortchange Scam by Rhythm (00:20:04)
13. Gamification Without Shame (00:22:05)
14. Beyond Red Teams: Train Your Own Players (00:24:22)
15. HR, Culture, and Shared Reality as Security (00:26:09)
16. Offensive Mindset and Automatic Defenses (00:28:21)
17. Family SMS Scams: Building Roleplay Tools (00:31:16)
18. World’s Greatest Con: Lessons from History (00:34:19)
19. Callbacks, Community Input, Next Steps (00:37:19)
20. Sponsor Thanks & Closing CTA (00:51:07)
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