In this episode, I sit down with astrologer Jasmina Brozović to explore astrology beyond labels — as a way of understanding life itself. Jasmina shares her story of learning under Steve Judd Astrology, her adventures attending astrology conferences, and how she sees astrology as an evolving art form that helps us navigate meaning and growth.

We dive into the shifting tides of Saturn and Neptune, the closing of the Age of Pisces, and the dawn of Pluto in Aquarius — what this new era means for how we define daily life, community, and identity.

After a short break, we get into the heart of study: the books and thinkers that build better astrologers. From Frank Clifford’s insights on astrology and acting to Claire Nakti’s Vedic discography research, Jasmina brings a grounded yet imaginative approach to learning. She even walks me through parts of my own chart using Georgia Stathis’ “Business Astrology 101”, teaching me something new about my South Node in Pisces and my Neptune influence.

We close with Jasmina reflecting on her Saturn–Mars placement, its definitely something that has shaped her to be an awesome person that she is!

You can find her work at https://zees.tools/@jasminabrozovicastrology