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Death isn't the end—it's a transition as natural and necessary as birth. This profound realization emerged as Hilary and Les shared their personal journeys from fear to understanding what exists beyond our physical bodies.
Hilary's story begins with childhood anxiety about death that haunted her into adulthood. A palm reader's prediction that she might die in her 30s created years of fear until near-death-like experiences at 21 and 31 propelled her toward deeper exploration. She describes consuming near-death experience accounts "like a drug" initially, before finding lasting peace and eventually working professionally with NDE experiencers.
For Les, the journey began when his Catholic upbringing collided with discoveries about reincarnation during university religious studies. The conversation explores how scientific examination of near-death experiences provides compelling evidence of consciousness continuing after physical death. Organizations like NDERF and IANDS have documented thousands of cases showing consistent patterns across cultures—patterns that deserve serious consideration rather than dismissal.
Through hypnosis, they've both accessed past lives and the "life between lives" state described by Michael Newton. These experiences weren't merely imaginative but felt like accessing genuine memories, complete with sensory details and perspectives entirely different from our current personalities. The therapeutic value of these regressions has transformed not only their lives but countless clients who've shifted from rigid, unhappy worldviews to more open, creative approaches to existence.
Perhaps most fascinating is an exploration of channeling—receiving wisdom from non-physical consciousness. Hilary describes how her channeled messages have evolved over time, becoming more distinct and clear as her connection deepens. This direct communication with higher wisdom reinforces what hypnotic regression reveals: we are not our bodies. We are consciousness having a temporary physical experience.
The wisdom that emerges is deceptively simple yet profoundly transformative: we're here to learn and create in a world of duality. Everything important, yet nothing ultimately matters. Understanding this doesn't eliminate life's challenges, but it fundamentally transforms our relationship with death, fear, and purpose. As they reflect on Les's father's choice to end his suffering, we see how our medical systems often fight against death as an enemy rather than recognizing it as a doorway we all eventually walk through.

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