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EP213 From Promise to Practice: LLMs for Anomaly Detection and Real-World Cloud Security

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Topic:

  • Where do you see a gap between the “promise” of LLMs for security and how they are actually used in the field to solve customer pains?
  • I know you use LLMs for anomaly detection. Explain how that “trick” works? What is it good for? How effective do you think it will be?
  • Can you compare this to other anomaly detection methods? Also, won’t this be costly - how do you manage to keep inference costs under control at scale?
  • SOC teams often grapple with the tradeoff between “seeing everything” so that they never miss any attack, and handling too much noise. What are you seeing emerge in cloud D&R to address this challenge?
  • We hear from folks who developed an automated approach to handle a reviews queue previously handled by people. Inevitably even if precision and recall can be shown to be superior, executive or customer backlash comes hard with a false negative (or a flood of false positives). Have you seen this phenomenon, and if so, what have you learned about handling it?
  • What are other barriers that need to be overcome so that LLMs can push the envelope further for improving security?
  • So from your perspective, LLMs are going to tip the scale in whose favor - cybercriminals or defenders?

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Guest:

Topic:

  • Where do you see a gap between the “promise” of LLMs for security and how they are actually used in the field to solve customer pains?
  • I know you use LLMs for anomaly detection. Explain how that “trick” works? What is it good for? How effective do you think it will be?
  • Can you compare this to other anomaly detection methods? Also, won’t this be costly - how do you manage to keep inference costs under control at scale?
  • SOC teams often grapple with the tradeoff between “seeing everything” so that they never miss any attack, and handling too much noise. What are you seeing emerge in cloud D&R to address this challenge?
  • We hear from folks who developed an automated approach to handle a reviews queue previously handled by people. Inevitably even if precision and recall can be shown to be superior, executive or customer backlash comes hard with a false negative (or a flood of false positives). Have you seen this phenomenon, and if so, what have you learned about handling it?
  • What are other barriers that need to be overcome so that LLMs can push the envelope further for improving security?
  • So from your perspective, LLMs are going to tip the scale in whose favor - cybercriminals or defenders?

Resource:

  continue reading

229 episodes

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