What happens when two former clinical psychologists and late diagnosed neurodivergent women sit down to discuss burnout, masking, and sustainable leadership? This honest conversation explores the real challenges neurodivergent entrepreneurs and professionals face, and the radical self-trust required to build work that doesn't break you.

In this milestone 50th episode, I sit down with Dr Hayley D. Quinn, a proud Autistic ADHD (AuDHD) woman, former Clinical Psychologist, anti-burnout business coach, podcast host (Welcome to Self), and author of the soon-to-be-released book From Self-Neglect to Self-Compassion.

Topics covered:
✓ Burnout, what it is and how to distinguish it from exhaustion
✓ The chameleon effect: masking and its long-term costs
✓ Why "working harder" doesn't solve burnout (and what does)
✓ Dehumanisation in helping professions
✓ Threat, drive & soothing systems (Compassion-Focused Therapy)
✓ AI, uncertainty & neurodivergent leadership
✓ Self-trust as business strategy

And a big announcement - this episode also marks the last for Classroom 5.0, at least for now. Thank you for being a part of this community, and shaping the evolution of these conversations into a fresh new podcast in 2026, Jagged Brilliance: AI, Neurodivergence and the Future of Leadership. Subscribe here for launch details, coming soon!

📖 Full episode show notes with links to connect with Hayley and pre-order her book, available at:
https://www.marianepower.com.au/blog/50