Travis Jensen is the Co-founder and Partner at Johnson Jensen LLP and Co-chair of the Rule of Law Committee Initiative at the Indianapolis Bar Association, which promotes public and the legal community’s understanding of judicial independence and the core principles of the legal profession. An accomplished trial lawyer deeply invested in his community, Travis has represented over 800 clients in personal injury and wrongful death cases in Indiana and nationwide. His experience as a defense lawyer and passion for psychology and its multiple roles in the trial process led him to develop the jury research process that is the foundation of his and his partner’s company, Precognitive Jury Research, LLP.

Christine Hickey is the Managing Partner at Rubin & Levin, P.C. in Indianapolis and co-chairs the Indianapolis Bar Association’s Rule of Law Committee Initiative. At the law firm, she specializes in creditors’ rights, commercial collections, and litigation. She previously served as President of the Indianapolis Bar Association and Foundation, the National Conference of Bar Presidents, and the National Conference of Bar Foundations, and held leadership roles on the American Bar Association’s Board of Governors and Executive Committee.

The erosion of public trust in legal institutions threatens the foundation of democracy. However, many people perceive the rule of law as unfair, inconsistent, or irrelevant to their daily lives. How can communities rebuild confidence in a system designed to provide accountability, fairness, and equal treatment for all?

According to Christine Hickey, an experienced attorney and legal leader, and Travis Jensen, a respected litigator, restoring confidence requires education, engagement, and visible leadership. Christine emphasizes simple, relatable explanations of the rule of law, while Travis points to the importance of involving young people and communities through initiatives like essay contests, school visits, and town halls. Together, they highlight how lawyers can lead by example, reinforcing fairness and consistency while empowering citizens to advocate for change the right way.

In this episode of Circle City Conversations, Alex Limontes interviews Travis Jensen and Christine Hickey, co-chairs for the Indianapolis Bar Association Rule of Law Committee Initiative, about strengthening public trust through the rule of law. Christine and Travis discuss why legal education matters, how community programs are changing public perception, and the importance of civic responsibility. They also discuss engaging youth in constitutional awareness and separating politics from fundamental rights.