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478: Pommeau: What Happens When a French Classic Lands on U.S. Labels

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What is Pommeau?

Pommeau is a: fortified blend of fresh apple must (unfermented) and apple brandy (typically Calvados in Normandy or Lambig in Brittany). The unfermented apple juice and brandy are combined before fermentation, which halts the process entirely and preserves natural sweetness.

By law in France, Pommeau must be aged a minimum of 18 months in oak and produced within designated regions. It's rich, amber-colored, and served as an apéritif. It is consider to be a French heritage drink shaped by decades of refinement and protected standards.

When did Pommeau receive AOC status?

Pommeau received its official Appellation d'Origine Contrôlée (AOC) status in 1991, formalizing the traditional method and legally protecting what can and cannot be called Pommeau within France.

And in America?

If you ask what Pommeau is in the United States, the answer is: nothing defined. There is no legal TTB definition, no standard of identity, and no trade agreement protecting the name. Yet hundreds of U.S. labels already use the word…sometimes accurately, sometimes loosely, often inconsistently.

So the question becomes, "What happens when a French classic with strict rules lands on U.S. labels with no rules at all?" That's the conversation American isn't having… yet.

In this episode, Ria speaks with alcohol beverage attorney Lindsey Zahn to unpack what it means to use the word Pommeau in the U.S.—legally, culturally, ethically—and what cider makers and consumers should consider going forward.

What happens when a French classic with strict rules lands on U.S. labels with no rules at all? That's the conversation America isn't having… yet.

Key Topics Covered

What Pommeau legally means in France
Why the TTB has no definition for Pommeau
How hundreds of U.S. labels were approved without consistency
The difference between fortified cider vs. Pommeau
Why a COLA approval does not protect you from trademark or trade disputes
U.S.–EU trade agreements and why Pommeau is not protected
Risks for current makers using "Pommeau" on labels
Why "American Pommeau," "Pommeau-style," or accurate class/type statements may reduce risk
The opportunity for U.S. cider associations to create a new American term
A call for a naming contest—what the U.S. cider world could build together
Why truth in labeling matters beyond regulatory compliance
Why this conversation needed to happen…ten years ago

Contact info for Lindsey Zahn P.C.

Website: https://www.zahnlawpc.com
Previous Cider Chat episode with Lindsey : Episode 85 Lindsey Zahn on Cider Law
TTB Labeling Resources: https://www.ttb.gov

00:00 Introduction and Common Misconceptions

00:23 Meet the Host and Guest

01:35 Episode Overview: Focus on Pommeau

03:13 Cider Tours Announcement

06:58 Listener Support and Sponsors

08:40 Main Discussion: Legal Aspects of Pommeau

25:34 Trademark Rights and Labeling Concerns

27:34 The Importance of Due Diligence in Labeling

28:46 Pomo: A Gray Area in Cider Labeling

30:30 Alternatives to Using 'Pomo'

32:36 Truth in Labeling and Production Methods

36:08 Advice for Cider Producers

38:39 Role of Cider Associations

46:08 Final Thoughts and Call to Action

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