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Podcast Episode Notes: Choosing Church Broadcast Audio Systems Episode Overview

Discussion about switching from Logic Pro to other broadcast audio solutions including Waves LV1, Studio One, and Pro Tools for church live streaming applications.

Key Participants
  • Jake Gosselin - Host/Audio Expert
  • Matt Woltjer - Audio Engineer/Consultant
Main Topics Covered Current Industry Setup
  • Most professionals using matrix mix from LV1 systems for broadcast
  • Common approach: dedicated matrix send from main front-of-house mix
  • Requires ongoing attention to maintain quality
Logic Pro Issues Identified

Primary Problem: Time Drift

  • Logic Pro gradually falls behind video stream
  • Can drift up to 2+ seconds behind actual video
  • Creates major sync issues for live streaming
  • Problem appears unique to Logic Pro

Design Limitations

  • Logic Pro optimized for studio recording, not live applications
  • Apple's development priorities focus on studio use
  • Pricing model ($200 for 18+ years) indicates different revenue focus
Alternative DAW Options

Ableton Live & Pro Tools

  • No reported time drift issues
  • Better suited for live applications
  • More reliable for broadcast mixing

Waves LV1 System

  • Purpose-built for live mixing
  • Hardware controller integration
  • Superior plugin processing
  • Most expensive but most reliable option
System Integration Challenges

Hardware Requirements

  • Allen & Heath SQ: Requires Waves interface cards
  • Dante Systems: Need Dante Wave Sound Bridge (~$3,000)
  • LV1 Options:
    • Classic (most expensive, full features)
    • One C Compact (budget option, limited processing)
    • Proton Duo (insufficient for full mix)
Critical Decision Factors

Budget Considerations

  • LV1 systems: $10,000+ for complete setup
  • Additional hardware costs often overlooked
  • Integration complexity increases total cost

Staffing Reality Check

  • Many churches: 1-2 experienced engineers, 2-3 learning operators
  • Common mistake: Experienced on FOH, beginners on broadcast
  • Results in expensive equipment producing poor mixes

Fundamental Issues First

  • Acoustic treatment more impactful than equipment upgrades
  • Proper PA tuning essential before broadcast considerations
  • Secondary console improves mix quality only 2-5%
  • Room acoustics can transform entire sound
Professional Recommendations

When to Choose Matrix Mix:

  • Small to midsize churches
  • Limited experienced staff
  • Budget constraints
  • Desire for consistency and reliability

When to Consider LV1:

  • Dedicated broadcast mixing staff
  • Sufficient budget for complete system
  • Acoustics and PA already optimized
  • Need for advanced plugin processing

Questions to Ask Before Upgrading:

  1. What specific problems are you solving?
  2. Do you have dedicated, experienced broadcast staff?
  3. Are fundamental acoustic/PA issues addressed?
  4. What's your complete system budget?
  5. How complex is your current audio routing?
Real-World Case Study

Recent consultation example:

  • Church requesting lighting upgrades without understanding lighting theory
  • Eight BLX wireless systems failing across multiple rooms
  • Recommended: Learn fundamentals before spending money
  • Upgrade to antenna-capable systems for multi-room use
Key Takeaways

Equipment Isn't Always the Answer

  • Master current equipment before upgrading
  • Address fundamental issues (acoustics, tuning) first
  • Proper operation often more important than specific hardware

Context is Critical

  • Every church situation is unique
  • Professional consultation recommended
  • Holistic system assessment necessary
  • Strategic upgrade planning prevents expensive mistakes

Success Factors

  • Experienced operation
  • Proper implementation
  • Fundamental acoustic treatment
  • Realistic budget and expectations
Action Items for Listeners
  1. Assess current system holistically before planning upgrades
  2. Prioritize acoustic treatment and PA tuning
  3. Evaluate staff experience and availability
  4. Consider professional consultation for complex decisions
  5. Focus on mastering current equipment capabilities
Resources Mentioned
  • Church Front premium membership for professional consultation
  • Professional coaching calls available
  • Community recommendations for Studio One and Pro Tools
Next Steps for Churches
  • Evaluate specific broadcast mixing challenges
  • Consider matrix mix optimization before new systems
  • Plan strategic upgrade path with professional guidance
  • Address fundamental issues before equipment purchases

Episode Duration: ~10 minutes Topic: Church Audio Technology Audience: Church technical teams, audio engineers, ministry leaders

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Apply to Join Churchfront Premium

Apply to Join Churchfront Pro

Free Worship and Production Toolkit

Shop Our Online Courses

Join us at the Churchfront Conference

Follow Churchfront on Instagram or TikTok: @churchfront

Follow on Twitter: @realchurchfront

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Musicbed SyncID: MB01VWQ69XRQNSN

Podcast Episode Notes: Choosing Church Broadcast Audio Systems Episode Overview

Discussion about switching from Logic Pro to other broadcast audio solutions including Waves LV1, Studio One, and Pro Tools for church live streaming applications.

Key Participants
  • Jake Gosselin - Host/Audio Expert
  • Matt Woltjer - Audio Engineer/Consultant
Main Topics Covered Current Industry Setup
  • Most professionals using matrix mix from LV1 systems for broadcast
  • Common approach: dedicated matrix send from main front-of-house mix
  • Requires ongoing attention to maintain quality
Logic Pro Issues Identified

Primary Problem: Time Drift

  • Logic Pro gradually falls behind video stream
  • Can drift up to 2+ seconds behind actual video
  • Creates major sync issues for live streaming
  • Problem appears unique to Logic Pro

Design Limitations

  • Logic Pro optimized for studio recording, not live applications
  • Apple's development priorities focus on studio use
  • Pricing model ($200 for 18+ years) indicates different revenue focus
Alternative DAW Options

Ableton Live & Pro Tools

  • No reported time drift issues
  • Better suited for live applications
  • More reliable for broadcast mixing

Waves LV1 System

  • Purpose-built for live mixing
  • Hardware controller integration
  • Superior plugin processing
  • Most expensive but most reliable option
System Integration Challenges

Hardware Requirements

  • Allen & Heath SQ: Requires Waves interface cards
  • Dante Systems: Need Dante Wave Sound Bridge (~$3,000)
  • LV1 Options:
    • Classic (most expensive, full features)
    • One C Compact (budget option, limited processing)
    • Proton Duo (insufficient for full mix)
Critical Decision Factors

Budget Considerations

  • LV1 systems: $10,000+ for complete setup
  • Additional hardware costs often overlooked
  • Integration complexity increases total cost

Staffing Reality Check

  • Many churches: 1-2 experienced engineers, 2-3 learning operators
  • Common mistake: Experienced on FOH, beginners on broadcast
  • Results in expensive equipment producing poor mixes

Fundamental Issues First

  • Acoustic treatment more impactful than equipment upgrades
  • Proper PA tuning essential before broadcast considerations
  • Secondary console improves mix quality only 2-5%
  • Room acoustics can transform entire sound
Professional Recommendations

When to Choose Matrix Mix:

  • Small to midsize churches
  • Limited experienced staff
  • Budget constraints
  • Desire for consistency and reliability

When to Consider LV1:

  • Dedicated broadcast mixing staff
  • Sufficient budget for complete system
  • Acoustics and PA already optimized
  • Need for advanced plugin processing

Questions to Ask Before Upgrading:

  1. What specific problems are you solving?
  2. Do you have dedicated, experienced broadcast staff?
  3. Are fundamental acoustic/PA issues addressed?
  4. What's your complete system budget?
  5. How complex is your current audio routing?
Real-World Case Study

Recent consultation example:

  • Church requesting lighting upgrades without understanding lighting theory
  • Eight BLX wireless systems failing across multiple rooms
  • Recommended: Learn fundamentals before spending money
  • Upgrade to antenna-capable systems for multi-room use
Key Takeaways

Equipment Isn't Always the Answer

  • Master current equipment before upgrading
  • Address fundamental issues (acoustics, tuning) first
  • Proper operation often more important than specific hardware

Context is Critical

  • Every church situation is unique
  • Professional consultation recommended
  • Holistic system assessment necessary
  • Strategic upgrade planning prevents expensive mistakes

Success Factors

  • Experienced operation
  • Proper implementation
  • Fundamental acoustic treatment
  • Realistic budget and expectations
Action Items for Listeners
  1. Assess current system holistically before planning upgrades
  2. Prioritize acoustic treatment and PA tuning
  3. Evaluate staff experience and availability
  4. Consider professional consultation for complex decisions
  5. Focus on mastering current equipment capabilities
Resources Mentioned
  • Church Front premium membership for professional consultation
  • Professional coaching calls available
  • Community recommendations for Studio One and Pro Tools
Next Steps for Churches
  • Evaluate specific broadcast mixing challenges
  • Consider matrix mix optimization before new systems
  • Plan strategic upgrade path with professional guidance
  • Address fundamental issues before equipment purchases

Episode Duration: ~10 minutes Topic: Church Audio Technology Audience: Church technical teams, audio engineers, ministry leaders

  continue reading

100 episodes

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