Change is Like a Slinky - Book Interview with Dr. Hans Shultz
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How to Lead Change (Without Losing Your Team) — with Dr. Hans Finzel
Dr. Hans Finzel returns to Change Agent Leadership to unpack the big idea behind his book Change Is Like a Slinky—why change is messy, unpredictable, and essential if you want your organization to survive and thrive. We talk practical leadership moves: building a guiding coalition, over-communicating the “why,” converting adversaries into advocates, and aligning your board, leaders, and teams so momentum sticks.
Guest: Dr. Hans Finzel — author, speaker, former president of WorldVenture, and president of HD Leaders. Author of 11 books including the international bestseller The Top 10 Mistakes Leaders Make and Change Is Like a Slinky.
What you’ll learn
· Why leaders must accept the need for change even when the old way “still works”
· How to anticipate allies and adversaries (and why the middle 70% are your leverage)
· Why communication ×10 is the lifeblood of any change effort
· How to align your board, leadership team, and staff so the “wheels” roll straight
· The role of trust, vulnerability, and encouragement in sustaining momentum
· How to turn critics into advocates through presence, listening, and clarity
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▶️ Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to Change Agent Leadership
01:16 Hans Finzel's Leadership Journey
02:26 The Necessity of Change in Leadership
04:23 Communicating Change Effectively
07:06 Change is Like a Slinky
12:37 Phases of Change
18:09 Accepting the Need for Change
23:09 Anticipating Adversaries and Allies
24:26 Understanding Leadership Miscommunication
25:44 Rebuilding Trust Through Humble Communication
27:38 The Importance of Over-Communicating
28:03 Focusing on the Right Group for Change
35:06 Aligning Your Team for Success
39:13 The Role of Encouragement and Trust
44:11 Challenges in Organizational Change
50:16 Advice for Emerging Leaders
Resources mentioned
· Hans Finzel — https://hansfinzel.com
· Change Is Like a Slinky by Hans Finzel
· The Top 10 Mistakes Leaders Make by Hans Finzel
· Buy-In by John P. Kotter & Lorne A. Whitehead
· The Five Dysfunctions of a Team by Patrick Lencioni
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