In this week's episode, we chat with Max about Seattle-appropriate doula gifts, the TTRPG version of porn brain, and the concept of exploration in TTRPGs. This season, we're experimenting with shorter conversations about how people play games. We first spoke with Max way back in Season 2, and we wanted to keep talking about OSR games, so we convinced Max to come back for another round. This is one of our most game theory-focused interviews, especially when we're talking about incentives and objectives in TTRPGs. If you're interested in why so many older systems treated gold as XP, this episode is for you.

Throughout the conversation, Jake and Max both keep saying "D&D". However, the actual system Max is using is Shadowdark. Jake kind of regrets this inaccuracy, but also it feels like "D&D" becoming a generic term for TTRPGs and losing its trademark protections (like "aspirin" or "thermos" or "escalator") would be a funny outcome of its cultural dominance.

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