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Beyond the Firewall: Careers in Cloud Security

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When most people think about cybersecurity careers, they envision ethical hackers or security analysts huddled behind screens of scrolling code. But as our guest Brian Eidelman, VP of Cloud Engineering at Oracle, reveals, the reality is far more diverse and fascinating.
Security careers exist in what Brian describes as a three-dimensional landscape. Across one axis, you have different job functions ranging from compliance specialization and policy development to threat research, forensics, and security tool development. Along another dimension are organizational environments—government, financial services, healthcare, technology companies—each with unique security challenges. The third dimension encompasses technical specializations like network security, encryption, identity management, and increasingly, cloud security.
Identity management emerges as a critical focal point in our discussion. Having been one of the original developers of SiteMinder (a single sign-on solution), Brian traces how identity has evolved from simple password systems to today's sophisticated multi-factor authentication and passwordless approaches. In cloud environments where traditional network boundaries have dissolved, "identity is your new perimeter." This shift has created entirely new disciplines around non-human identities—managing how applications, workloads, and services authenticate to one another.
The podcast explores how cloud security differs from traditional approaches, requiring guardrails that maintain security without sacrificing the agility that makes cloud computing valuable. We dig into how the democratization of resources has created new security challenges as developers gain direct access to infrastructure that would have been tightly controlled in on-premises environments.
For those looking to break into the field, Brian offers surprisingly practical advice: unlike networking, where certifications often serve as career milestones, security values demonstrable skills and domain knowledge more highly. His recommendation? When security issues arise in your current technical role, run toward them rather than away. Volunteering for security-related projects and demonstrating curiosity can open doors more effectively than certificates alone.
Ready to explore the multidimensional world of cloud security careers? Listen now and discover where you might fit in this dynamic and essential field.
Connect with Brian:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-eidelman-9b29181/

Purchase Chris and Tim's new book on AWS Cloud Networking: https://www.amazon.com/Certified-Advanced-Networking-Certification-certification/dp/1835080839/

Check out the Fortnightly Cloud Networking News
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fkBWCGwXDUX9OfZ9_MvSVup8tJJzJeqrauaE6VPT2b0/

Visit our website and subscribe: https://www.cables2clouds.com/
Follow us on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/cables2clouds.com
Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@cables2clouds/
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Chapters

1. Introduction to Security Development (00:00:00)

2. Meet Brian Eidelman from Oracle (00:05:42)

3. The Multidimensional Security Landscape (00:10:14)

4. Identity Management and Cloud Security (00:17:39)

5. Network Security and Zero Trust (00:27:10)

6. AI's Impact on Security Careers (00:34:02)

7. Certifications and Breaking Into Security (00:40:11)

8. Closing Thoughts and Contact Info (00:46:13)

103 episodes

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When most people think about cybersecurity careers, they envision ethical hackers or security analysts huddled behind screens of scrolling code. But as our guest Brian Eidelman, VP of Cloud Engineering at Oracle, reveals, the reality is far more diverse and fascinating.
Security careers exist in what Brian describes as a three-dimensional landscape. Across one axis, you have different job functions ranging from compliance specialization and policy development to threat research, forensics, and security tool development. Along another dimension are organizational environments—government, financial services, healthcare, technology companies—each with unique security challenges. The third dimension encompasses technical specializations like network security, encryption, identity management, and increasingly, cloud security.
Identity management emerges as a critical focal point in our discussion. Having been one of the original developers of SiteMinder (a single sign-on solution), Brian traces how identity has evolved from simple password systems to today's sophisticated multi-factor authentication and passwordless approaches. In cloud environments where traditional network boundaries have dissolved, "identity is your new perimeter." This shift has created entirely new disciplines around non-human identities—managing how applications, workloads, and services authenticate to one another.
The podcast explores how cloud security differs from traditional approaches, requiring guardrails that maintain security without sacrificing the agility that makes cloud computing valuable. We dig into how the democratization of resources has created new security challenges as developers gain direct access to infrastructure that would have been tightly controlled in on-premises environments.
For those looking to break into the field, Brian offers surprisingly practical advice: unlike networking, where certifications often serve as career milestones, security values demonstrable skills and domain knowledge more highly. His recommendation? When security issues arise in your current technical role, run toward them rather than away. Volunteering for security-related projects and demonstrating curiosity can open doors more effectively than certificates alone.
Ready to explore the multidimensional world of cloud security careers? Listen now and discover where you might fit in this dynamic and essential field.
Connect with Brian:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-eidelman-9b29181/

Purchase Chris and Tim's new book on AWS Cloud Networking: https://www.amazon.com/Certified-Advanced-Networking-Certification-certification/dp/1835080839/

Check out the Fortnightly Cloud Networking News
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fkBWCGwXDUX9OfZ9_MvSVup8tJJzJeqrauaE6VPT2b0/

Visit our website and subscribe: https://www.cables2clouds.com/
Follow us on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/cables2clouds.com
Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@cables2clouds/
Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cables2clouds
Merch Store: https://store.cables2clouds.com/
Join the Discord Study group: https://artofneteng.com/iaatj

  continue reading

Chapters

1. Introduction to Security Development (00:00:00)

2. Meet Brian Eidelman from Oracle (00:05:42)

3. The Multidimensional Security Landscape (00:10:14)

4. Identity Management and Cloud Security (00:17:39)

5. Network Security and Zero Trust (00:27:10)

6. AI's Impact on Security Careers (00:34:02)

7. Certifications and Breaking Into Security (00:40:11)

8. Closing Thoughts and Contact Info (00:46:13)

103 episodes

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