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Automating Cloud Native vs. On-Prem Networks with Eric Chou

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The gap between cloud-native and traditional networking has never been more evident. As organizations struggle with hybrid environments, finding a unified management strategy feels like searching for the mythical "one ring to rule them all."
In this thought-provoking episode, we welcome Eric Chou, author, instructor, and podcast host with over a decade of experience at AWS and Azure. Eric brings a rare insider perspective on how hyperscalers approach networking fundamentally differently than traditional vendors.
We explore why cloud providers built their infrastructure API-first from day one, while traditional networking vendors had to retrofit APIs onto existing hardware. This architectural distinction creates significant challenges when trying to manage both environments cohesively. Eric explains why cloud tools excel at declarative configurations while traditional networking tools often take a more procedural approach, and when each might be appropriate for your organization.
The conversation takes a fascinating turn when we discuss how AI is reshaping network engineering. Are we headed toward a dangerous knowledge gap as junior engineers rely on AI without developing foundational skills? Eric advocates for an "enhance, not replace" philosophy that values human expertise while leveraging AI as a productivity multiplier. We debate whether simulation can ever truly replace the hard-earned lessons of 3 AM network outages.
Whether you're managing a hybrid network environment or wondering how to prepare for an AI-driven future, this episode offers practical insights and a surprisingly optimistic outlook on the future of networking. Listen now to understand how bridging the gap between cloud and on-premises networking might be less about finding a universal tool and more about developing the right mindset and approach.
Connect with Eric:
Network Automation Nerds Podcast: https://packetpushers.net/podcast/network-automation-nerds/
Amazon Author Page: https://www.amazon.com/author/ericchou
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/choueric/
Network Automation Nerds Website: https://networkautomationnerds.com/

Purchase Chris and Tim's new book on AWS Cloud Networking: https://www.amazon.com/Certified-Advanced-Networking-Certification-certification/dp/1835080839/

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Chapters

1. Automating Cloud Native vs. On-Prem Networks with Eric Chou (00:00:00)

2. Episode Introduction with Eric Cho (00:00:13)

3. Cloud Native vs Traditional Networking (00:03:12)

4. API-First Design Differences (00:10:56)

5. Tooling Challenges in Hybrid Environments (00:17:54)

6. Generational Shift in Network Engineering (00:26:10)

7. AI's Impact on Engineering Roles (00:35:37)

8. The Future of Network Education (00:45:20)

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