Have you ever wondered why traditional recovery works for some people—but didn’t quite fit for you?

This week, we’re pulling back the curtain with our friend and BJDW team member Heather whose journey to freedom started inside a rehab program that followed a 12-step model…and ended in a deeper, Jesus-led transformation.

Heather opens up about what she learned, what didn’t resonate, and how she found freedom—not just sobriety—through faith, community, and truth.
If you’ve ever felt out of place in traditional recovery, or wrestled with words like powerless and alcoholic, this conversation is going to set something free inside you.

📘 What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

• The parts of traditional recovery that helped Heather build early sobriety.
• The moments she knew she needed “something more” than meetings.
• Why labeling herself “powerless” didn’t align with her identity in Christ.
• How she integrated her faith into a secular recovery space—and what changed when she stopped compartmentalizing.
• The difference between sobriety and freedom (and why one without the other still feels stuck).
• The emotional sobriety piece that’s often missing in traditional models.
• How Jesus met her in unexpected places—from rehab groups to backyard birthday parties.
• Why community, not control, is what actually sustains transformation.

💌 Links & Resources:

Previous Episodes Mentioned:

Heather D’s First Episode: From High-Achieving to Healing, Heather Dillion’s Story

God Doesn’t Call You An Alcoholic, He Calls You His Beloved Daughter

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