Scott Johnson, Lysa, and Diane on Amway Suspension video by LTD Larry and Pam Winters on Building Fortunes Radio with Peter Mingils
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The Stop the Amway Tool Scam Radio show with Scott Johnson and Peter Mingils have a conversation with previous Amway IBOs about the Suspension Video by LTD Leadership Larry and Pam Winters
On this episode, Scott Johnson and Peter Mingils start the radio show by discussing a recent ban of Hemp and CBD in the recent CR Bill.
What LTD Stands ForLTD is an Amway motivational organization (also known as a Line of Affiliation or LOA) founded and led by Larry Winters and his wife, Pam. It stands for Leadership Team Development. Originally part of the Britt Worldwide (BWW) system, LTD operates independently as a training and support network for Amway Independent Business Owners (IBOs), providing tools like audio recordings, books, seminars, and coaching to help build downlines. Winters, a Double Diamond-level distributor (achieved in 2007), credits the group's rapid growth to systems like the "Quality Invite" (QI) method for recruiting. LTD emphasizes personal development, faith, and business success, but critics often describe it as cult-like due to its high costs (e.g., ~$90/month premium membership and $100+ event tickets) and intense devotion to Winters. amwaywiki.com +3Larry Winters' Suspension from AmwayThere is no confirmed public record of Larry Winters being formally suspended from Amway as of November 2025. However, in late 2023 and early 2024, rumors circulated within Amway communities (particularly on forums like Reddit) about his absence from major events, such as the LTD Summit in St. Louis and a Diamond gathering in Washington, D.C. Photos showed Pam Winters attending without him, sparking speculation about health issues, personal problems, or internal Amway disputes.
reddit.com These concerns appear to have been resolved, as a November 15, 2025, YouTube video titled "Amway Double Diamonds and LTD founders Larry & Pam Winters apology" features both Larry and Pam addressing a controversy at a conference. The "issue" referenced involves an incomplete distribution of an apology message—sent only to select attendees rather than all participants—which some viewed as potentially violating Amway's rules on fair communication or event conduct. The video frames it as an oversight, with the couple expressing regret and reaffirming their commitment to ethical practices.
youtube.comPast controversies for Winters include:
- Tax Liens (1996–2003): He faced $3.2 million in IRS liens related to unpaid taxes during LTD's early growth phase, which critics tied to aggressive business expansion. It's unclear if these were fully resolved, but they didn't lead to Amway action.
- General Criticisms: LTD has drawn FTC scrutiny (like other Amway systems) for income claims and tool sales profiting uplines more than product retail, but no Winters-specific suspension resulted.
Amway's code of conduct can lead to suspensions for violations like misrepresentation or unethical recruiting, but Winters remains an active Double Diamond leader in LTD, with no official termination announced. themlmtimes.wordpress.com +3 If the "suspension" refers to something more recent or internal, details may be limited due to Amway's privacy policies.
Here's the video that was released:
Peter Mingils and Scott Johnson bring up some onfprmation about One Coin, Business for Home, Behind MLM and companies like Zinzino.
You can see more of what Scott Johnson has on https://www.facebook.com/stoptheamwaytoolscam
The Amway tools scam is a hidden profit scheme within the Amway multi-level marketing (MLM) structure that exploits distributors, often leaving them with financial losses instead of the promised wealth. Amway, a well-known MLM company, markets health, beauty, and home products through independent business owners (IBOs). While the company emphasizes product sales, the real money for top-tier distributors, often at the Diamond level or above, comes from selling motivational "tools” like books, tapes, seminars, and rallies, not from product sales. These tools, promoted as essential for success, create a separate revenue stream that disproportionately benefits upline leaders while draining the profits of lower-level distributors.Distributors are pressured to purchase these overpriced tools, often costing hundreds or thousands annually, with promises of learning the secrets to building a lucrative Amway business. However, studies and lawsuits reveal that 99% of Amway distributors lose money, with average earnings below $100 monthly after expenses. The tools business, controlled by high-ranking distributors like Dexter Yager, generates millions for the elite, who earn significant markups on items like cassette tapes sold at rallies for up to $10,000 a night in cash. Meanwhile, new recruits face high startup costs—starter kits, training sessions, and product samples—further eroding their profits. This creates a pyramid-like structure where uplines profit from downlines' purchases, not retail sales, resembling an illegal scheme.
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