Isaac sat down with certified peer specialist Verum Visand and had a deep discussion about Verum's journey into and out of addiction. He has been in recovery for 6 years and has worked in the recovery field for 3 years. Verum attributed his addiction to a combination of personal circumstances, such as a broken home and lack of guidance, and a wrong path of decision making. He also emphasized the importance of understanding addiction as a symptom of a mental illness, the role of resilience and hope, and his personal journey towards recovery. They also touched upon the legalization of marijuana in Ohio, the role of a peer specialist, and Verum's plans for a podcast and online community.

Verum can be found on Facebook under his name Verum Visand and on his Facebook group Vagabard.

Intro and outro music made by Cassidine productions https://youtube.com/channel/UCPFmkKF_Kj1qebtArO3azLw?si=F2t7u1mY6jVm04SE

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