In this special election episode, co-hosts Anjali Appadurai and Erin Blondeau interview siblings Naomi Klein and Seth Klein to discuss the current political climate in Canada leading up to the federal election, unpacking the nuances of a nationalistic response, the role of fossil fuel corporations, and the need for effective and transformative climate policies.

Seth and Naomi provide insights into the shock doctrine, right-wing populism, and what we’re hearing (and not hearing) from the main party leaders. The conversation emphasizes the importance of organizing for climate justice and the need for imaginative policy solutions. The speakers discuss the role of social movements in shaping political vision, the impact of neoliberalism on public imagination, and the question of strategic voting in this federal election.

The discussion also touches on the influence of conspiracy culture on climate action, the significance of Palestinian resistance and global solidarity, and the challenges of fostering internationalism in Canadian politics.

This episode aired on April 4 2025.

Credits:

Produced by Doug Hamilton-Evans, Emiko Newman, Erin Blondeau and Anjali Appadurai. Hosted by Anjali Appadurai and Erin Blondeau. Featuring Naomi Klein and Seth Klein. Music by Anjali Appadurai. Audio editing by Blue Light Studios. Artwork by Geoff Smith.