Former CIA operative Andrew Bustamante and his wife Jihi join Steven Bartlett on Diary of a CEO to discuss life inside the intelligence world, the strain secrecy places on relationships, and the limits of what can be publicly disclosed.

The conversation turns tense when Jeffrey Epstein is mentioned, with both appearing guarded; Bustamante also talks about podcast politics, being shunned from some shows, and hints at wanting to withdraw from public life by 2027.

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