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Wrestling Ratings, Backlash Breakdown, & Industry Secrets: Coach and Bro

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00:00 – Seniority Claimed, Shenanigans Called Out

  • Vince Russo jokes about renaming the show due to "coach shenanigans", with Tommy pitching in more frequently lately.
  • Friendly banter sets the tone, poking fun at a colleague's absence.
01:21 – The Ratings Rant & Post-Mania Pressure
  • Russo reveals his pet peeve: WWE’s declining post-WrestleMania ratings, blaming excuse-making about TV competition.
  • Recounts the pressure of keeping new viewers during his writing tenure and Vince McMahon’s famous “if it’s good, they’ll watch it” mantra.
06:26 – Creative Accountability & the Backlash Card Critique
  • Both hosts criticize today’s creative team for making excuses and not delivering compelling weekly content.
  • Tommy lambasts the current Backlash card as uninspired, especially matches like McAfee vs. Gunther.
08:47 – Goldberg Rumors & Roster Discontent
  • Vince discusses backstage rumblings about Goldberg’s possible involvement and the impact on rising stars and long-term booking logic.
09:47 – WWE Backlash Card “Quiz”
  • The hosts challenge each other to recall Backlash matches, highlighting lackluster build and thin storytelling.
  • Commentary on the reduction in matches per show and concerns about matches vs. entrance times.
12:14 – Cena’s Heel Turn & Orton Feud
  • Russo and Carlucci slam the abrupt heel turn for Cena with minimal storyline justification, praising Cena’s effort despite poor creative direction.
14:44 – Travis Scott at WrestleMania & the Cody Conundrum
  • Tommy questions the booking decisions with Travis Scott interfering at WrestleMania, Cody’s ensuing disappearance, and the missed opportunities for follow-up.
17:08 – Super Stickers & Production Team Shoutouts
  • Respond to fans’ questions about the pay-per-view schedule.
  • Tommy gives an in-depth look at the hardworking WWE production team and the immense effort behind video packages, spotlighting Adam Panucci and David Sahadi.
20:56 – UFC, Ticket Prices & SummerSlam Rumors
  • They rib about unsold UFC tickets and Ari Emanuel calling The Rock.
  • Vince jokes about $1 Rockies game tickets versus WWE’s PPV prices and shares rumors of a wild SummerSlam card (Cena/Travis Scott vs. Cody/Bad Bunny).
23:10 – Becky Lynch vs. Hulk Hogan: Generation Gaps & Industry Respect
  • Russo plays and responds to Becky Lynch comments (in character) about Hulk Hogan, arguing younger generations don’t appreciate the pressure people like Hogan faced.
  • Both hosts defend Hogan’s legacy and the foundations built for today’s stars.
30:38 – WWE Backstage: Stories from the '90s
  • Production war stories: Tommy shares a tale about releasing Vince and King from commentary too early, illustrating old-school accountability and backstage tension.
34:36 – More Super Stickers: Hogan’s Name Value & Industry Irony
  • Engage with listeners about why Hogan keeps getting mentioned and debates about WWE and its future with the Saudis.
38:42 – Political Warfare in WWE & Triple H’s Challenges
  • Speculation on Triple H vs. The Rock creative camps and how politics may be distracting from quality booking (e.g., missing out on a Cinco de Mayo tie-in).
41:15 – Hugs or Finger-Point of Death?
  • Light-hearted debate: Would they rather get the infamous “Triple H point” or a hug from Tony Khan?
41:34 – TNA x NXT: Cross-Promotion Potential
  • They praise TNA and NXT’s talent exchange, tout Joe Hendry and Trick Williams, and wonder why WWE releases aren’t moved to TNA.
43:17 – David Arquette, WCW Champion: Russo Sets the Record Straight
  • Vince recounts how Arquette winning the WCW title came from Tony Schiavone’s idea—explains the logic and lasting controversy behind that decision.
46:51 – Iconic WWE Commercials & JR’s Announcing Greatness
  • Memories of WWE’s million-dollar Super Bowl ad and production insights.
  • High praise for Jim Ross’s irreplaceable storytelling.
48:53 – Current Booking: Cena’s Heel Turn, Missed Storylines, and Creative Hiccups
  • Tommy and Vince share how they’d have booked Cena’s heel turn, lamenting the absence of creative minds like Pat Patterson.
52:47 – Cody’s Booking & Heel Dynamics
  • Discussion on why Cody Rhodes’ storylines lack payoff and the importance of clear motivations in wrestling narrative.
53:30 – Wrap-Up, Plugs, and Where to Find the Hosts
  • Tommy highlights his other shows and shares where fans can follow him.
  • Vince promotes his Patreon and thanks listeners.
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00:00 – Seniority Claimed, Shenanigans Called Out

  • Vince Russo jokes about renaming the show due to "coach shenanigans", with Tommy pitching in more frequently lately.
  • Friendly banter sets the tone, poking fun at a colleague's absence.
01:21 – The Ratings Rant & Post-Mania Pressure
  • Russo reveals his pet peeve: WWE’s declining post-WrestleMania ratings, blaming excuse-making about TV competition.
  • Recounts the pressure of keeping new viewers during his writing tenure and Vince McMahon’s famous “if it’s good, they’ll watch it” mantra.
06:26 – Creative Accountability & the Backlash Card Critique
  • Both hosts criticize today’s creative team for making excuses and not delivering compelling weekly content.
  • Tommy lambasts the current Backlash card as uninspired, especially matches like McAfee vs. Gunther.
08:47 – Goldberg Rumors & Roster Discontent
  • Vince discusses backstage rumblings about Goldberg’s possible involvement and the impact on rising stars and long-term booking logic.
09:47 – WWE Backlash Card “Quiz”
  • The hosts challenge each other to recall Backlash matches, highlighting lackluster build and thin storytelling.
  • Commentary on the reduction in matches per show and concerns about matches vs. entrance times.
12:14 – Cena’s Heel Turn & Orton Feud
  • Russo and Carlucci slam the abrupt heel turn for Cena with minimal storyline justification, praising Cena’s effort despite poor creative direction.
14:44 – Travis Scott at WrestleMania & the Cody Conundrum
  • Tommy questions the booking decisions with Travis Scott interfering at WrestleMania, Cody’s ensuing disappearance, and the missed opportunities for follow-up.
17:08 – Super Stickers & Production Team Shoutouts
  • Respond to fans’ questions about the pay-per-view schedule.
  • Tommy gives an in-depth look at the hardworking WWE production team and the immense effort behind video packages, spotlighting Adam Panucci and David Sahadi.
20:56 – UFC, Ticket Prices & SummerSlam Rumors
  • They rib about unsold UFC tickets and Ari Emanuel calling The Rock.
  • Vince jokes about $1 Rockies game tickets versus WWE’s PPV prices and shares rumors of a wild SummerSlam card (Cena/Travis Scott vs. Cody/Bad Bunny).
23:10 – Becky Lynch vs. Hulk Hogan: Generation Gaps & Industry Respect
  • Russo plays and responds to Becky Lynch comments (in character) about Hulk Hogan, arguing younger generations don’t appreciate the pressure people like Hogan faced.
  • Both hosts defend Hogan’s legacy and the foundations built for today’s stars.
30:38 – WWE Backstage: Stories from the '90s
  • Production war stories: Tommy shares a tale about releasing Vince and King from commentary too early, illustrating old-school accountability and backstage tension.
34:36 – More Super Stickers: Hogan’s Name Value & Industry Irony
  • Engage with listeners about why Hogan keeps getting mentioned and debates about WWE and its future with the Saudis.
38:42 – Political Warfare in WWE & Triple H’s Challenges
  • Speculation on Triple H vs. The Rock creative camps and how politics may be distracting from quality booking (e.g., missing out on a Cinco de Mayo tie-in).
41:15 – Hugs or Finger-Point of Death?
  • Light-hearted debate: Would they rather get the infamous “Triple H point” or a hug from Tony Khan?
41:34 – TNA x NXT: Cross-Promotion Potential
  • They praise TNA and NXT’s talent exchange, tout Joe Hendry and Trick Williams, and wonder why WWE releases aren’t moved to TNA.
43:17 – David Arquette, WCW Champion: Russo Sets the Record Straight
  • Vince recounts how Arquette winning the WCW title came from Tony Schiavone’s idea—explains the logic and lasting controversy behind that decision.
46:51 – Iconic WWE Commercials & JR’s Announcing Greatness
  • Memories of WWE’s million-dollar Super Bowl ad and production insights.
  • High praise for Jim Ross’s irreplaceable storytelling.
48:53 – Current Booking: Cena’s Heel Turn, Missed Storylines, and Creative Hiccups
  • Tommy and Vince share how they’d have booked Cena’s heel turn, lamenting the absence of creative minds like Pat Patterson.
52:47 – Cody’s Booking & Heel Dynamics
  • Discussion on why Cody Rhodes’ storylines lack payoff and the importance of clear motivations in wrestling narrative.
53:30 – Wrap-Up, Plugs, and Where to Find the Hosts
  • Tommy highlights his other shows and shares where fans can follow him.
  • Vince promotes his Patreon and thanks listeners.
  continue reading

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