In this episode of Be The Church Podcast, Pastor Luke Bilberry sits down with Pastor Joel Wayne and Pastor Michael Rubino to unpack what it truly means to be a spiritual leader. Together, they challenge the modern view of leadership, contrasting cultural models with the biblical call to servant leadership.

Through honest reflection, practical examples, and even moments of vulnerability, they explore how Jesus’ model of discipleship transforms our understanding of influence, calling, and equipping others. Whether you lead in your church, home, or workplace, this conversation will inspire you to lead with humility, clarity, and a heart surrendered to Christ’s mission.

What you’ll learn:

• The difference between spiritual leadership and worldly leadership
• Why servant leadership is rooted in Scripture
• How failure shapes effective leaders
• How Jesus modeled spiritual leadership with His disciples

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