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Groypers & The Future of Catholic Inc?

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The ground beneath Catholic life is moving: a diocese weighs merger, a flagship university faces succession questions, and a younger right is quietly mastering the mechanics of power. We open with Steubenville’s crossroads and the outsized influence of charismatic figures like Scott Hahn—how donor gravity, faculty recruitment, and reputation hinge on personalities, and what happens when those anchors age out. That sparks a bigger question we can’t dodge: can Catholic institutions renew themselves without a clear plan for leadership and community stability?
From there we zoom out to the media and political ecosystem. Critics warn about Groypers infiltrating DC, but miss what makes the movement resilient: a culture of praxis that turns talking points into step‑by‑step action. We unpack the generational clash as older voices lean on moral alarm while younger Catholics ask for mentorship, not gatekeeping. The real divide forming isn’t over liturgy; it’s over whether we keep outsourcing our hopes to a spent conservative order or build policy around Catholic social teaching—curbing usury, strengthening families, and defending place over “just move.”
We don’t sanitize hard topics or excuse reckless behavior. We insist on charity as a boundary, reject dehumanization, and argue that serious strategy beats viral outrage. If the old guard wants relevance, it must confront the debt, housing, and wage realities that make Gen Z cynical. If the young right wants durability, it must build institutions and habits that outlast personalities. Between these paths lies a rare chance to renew Catholic witness in public life.
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Chapters

1. Cold Open And Co‑Host Shuffle (00:00:00)

2. Tonight’s Agenda And Audio Snags (00:01:25)

3. Steubenville’s Future And Scott Hahn’s Legacy (00:04:07)

4. Catholic Prestige, Donors, And Succession Problems (00:11:10)

5. Demographics, Decline, And Local Culture (00:16:30)

6. Rod Dreher, DC Staffers, And The New Right (00:21:05)

7. Fragility Of Personality Movements (00:28:20)

8. The New Catholic Fault Line (00:32:50)

9. Generational Memory And Taboo Narratives (00:39:10)

10. Praxis Over Rhetoric: How Movements Organize (00:47:20)

11. Mentorship, Gatekeeping, And Missed Chances (00:54:40)

535 episodes

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The ground beneath Catholic life is moving: a diocese weighs merger, a flagship university faces succession questions, and a younger right is quietly mastering the mechanics of power. We open with Steubenville’s crossroads and the outsized influence of charismatic figures like Scott Hahn—how donor gravity, faculty recruitment, and reputation hinge on personalities, and what happens when those anchors age out. That sparks a bigger question we can’t dodge: can Catholic institutions renew themselves without a clear plan for leadership and community stability?
From there we zoom out to the media and political ecosystem. Critics warn about Groypers infiltrating DC, but miss what makes the movement resilient: a culture of praxis that turns talking points into step‑by‑step action. We unpack the generational clash as older voices lean on moral alarm while younger Catholics ask for mentorship, not gatekeeping. The real divide forming isn’t over liturgy; it’s over whether we keep outsourcing our hopes to a spent conservative order or build policy around Catholic social teaching—curbing usury, strengthening families, and defending place over “just move.”
We don’t sanitize hard topics or excuse reckless behavior. We insist on charity as a boundary, reject dehumanization, and argue that serious strategy beats viral outrage. If the old guard wants relevance, it must confront the debt, housing, and wage realities that make Gen Z cynical. If the young right wants durability, it must build institutions and habits that outlast personalities. Between these paths lies a rare chance to renew Catholic witness in public life.
Subscribe for future episodes, share this one with a friend who cares about the Church’s future, and leave a review with your take: is the next Catholic fault line already here?

Support the show

Take advantage of great Catholic red wines by heading over to https://recusantcellars.com/ and using code "BASED" for 10% off at checkout!
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Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKsxnv80ByFV4OGvt_kImjQ?sub_confirmation=1
https://www.avoidingbabylon.com
Merchandise: https://avoiding-babylon-shop.fourthwall.com
Locals Community: https://avoidingbabylon.locals.com
Full Premium/Locals Shows on Audio Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/subscribe
RSS Feed for Podcast Apps: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1987412.rss
Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/AvoidingBabylon

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Chapters

1. Cold Open And Co‑Host Shuffle (00:00:00)

2. Tonight’s Agenda And Audio Snags (00:01:25)

3. Steubenville’s Future And Scott Hahn’s Legacy (00:04:07)

4. Catholic Prestige, Donors, And Succession Problems (00:11:10)

5. Demographics, Decline, And Local Culture (00:16:30)

6. Rod Dreher, DC Staffers, And The New Right (00:21:05)

7. Fragility Of Personality Movements (00:28:20)

8. The New Catholic Fault Line (00:32:50)

9. Generational Memory And Taboo Narratives (00:39:10)

10. Praxis Over Rhetoric: How Movements Organize (00:47:20)

11. Mentorship, Gatekeeping, And Missed Chances (00:54:40)

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