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#507: ”Dreamwork is something that we can do“

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Hi Loyal Readers. Thank you for opening this week’s issue of Article Club.

Today’s issue is dedicated to a beautiful conversation with Saint Trey W, author of this month’s featured article, “They Burn Books to Burn Us Too.” He shares space with Sarai Bordeaux, Article Club contributor and Poet Laureate of Eureka, California.

If you haven’t yet, I hope you read the article. Then if you appreciate it, which I predict you will, I invite you to listen to the conversation, then join our discussion next Sunday, August 24. Kind, thoughtful people (like you!) will engage deeply with Saint Trey’s piece on Zoom, beginning at 2:00 pm PT and ending at 3:30 pm PT.

If you’re interested, you can learn more and sign up by clicking the button below.

When I first read “They Burn Books to Burn Us Too,” I was deeply moved. I was moved by the power of Saint Trey W’s message. But I was equally moved by the beauty of his writing. Saint Trey is a poet. This essay is lyrical.

“When a government begins to fear its own history,” Saint Trey writes, “it has already declared war on the people who survived it.”

Yes, this is an essay about book banning. It is about erasure, the war on memory, and our government’s attempt to dominate and destroy Black people. But the piece is also about dreaming. No matter the government’s violence, Black people will not be silenced. They will not be unwritten. Saint Trey writes:

What they do not know is that we were never written in the first place. We were sung. We were carved into tree trunks and kitchen counters and braided into our mother’s hair. We are older than their archives. And our stories do not end with silence.

When I finished the piece, I had three immediate thoughts:

* I must share this essay with Sarai right now

* Hopefully they appreciate it as much as I do

* Wouldn’t it be perfect if Sarai and Saint Trey got to talk to each other?

If you’re newish to Article Club, you may not have met Sarai yet, so here are a few words of (re)introduction: Sarai is one of the most astute readers I have ever met. Whenever we talk, they make me smarter. More importantly, Sarai helps me connect the dots and act with more compassion.

So it was an obvious next step — given my three thoughts above — that I should reach out to Sarai and gather their perspective. The rest is history. Sarai loved the essay, I contacted Saint Trey, he generously said yes to doing the interview, and they met up on Zoom to talk about his beautiful piece.

The result is this wholehearted conversation. Sarai and Saint Trey cover a wide range of topics. I won’t try to list them all here. It was clear to me, as I listened to Sarai and Saint Trey — two poets thinking together and sharing their perspectives about a powerful essay — that I was struck by the mutual care they shared with one another. In their discussion of Saint Trey’s piece, they centered on imagination and possibility, as well as the power of language and lineage.

Here’s an excerpt from the conversation that I especially appreciated. About ancestors, language, Blackness, libraries, and God, Saint Trey says:

Our ancestors are not just bloodlines, right? They're also our bookshelves. People like Toni Morrison, you know — she taught me that language can be a spell. It can be a sword, but it also can be a sanctuary. Reading Beloved and The Bluest Eye — it was the first time I understood the sacredness of Blackness in a way, especially in its unspoken parts — her reminding us that, if you are free, then you must free somebody else.

I think libraries are a portal to that. James Baldwin, giving permission to tell the truth, especially when it burns. This sort of clarity — this heat, this refusal to perform respectability — and his teaching that moral authority doesn't require approval. Audre Lorde, reminding us that silence is not going to protect us. She made queerness feel like gospel. So the reason I mentioned libraries is because they're all-encompassing of these stories. They’re in a sense, I would say, akin to church, right, to those who are believers, right? For me, the way I have reimagined faith in God is in language, it is in words that, you know, are passed through vessels — the artists, the writers, the griots. All have showed me that craft and conviction can dance, right? — that words don't have to be soft to be sacred. And I think libraries, they feed us when the world try has tried to starve us.

Seriously: I could listen to that passage over and over again. The clarity of Saint Trey’s words — both spoken here in this conversation, as well as in “They Burn Books to Burn Us Too” — is a gift.

I hope you take a listen to the conversation. A little disclaimer: The quality of the audio is a bit patchy at times, particularly at the beginning. The Internet was not behaving. It tried to be a nuisance. But it was unsuccessful, for two reasons: First, the audio smooths out after the first few minutes. Second, the quality of Sarai and Saint Trey’s words will make you listen more closely and tune out the distractions.

One more time, I’d like to thank Saint Trey for bringing us this piece. It’s an essay I believe that everyone should read and reflect on. I appreciate your words and your generosity of spirit. And Sarai, I am grateful to you as well, not only for this conversation but also for your contribution to our reading community.

An invitation to our discussion on August 24

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