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ana029: Hospital Space is Inhibited, so Public Space is Prohibited

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How does a quarantine affect public space?

Why aren’t there enough ICU beds?

Tim reflects on his experience designing hospitals to explain why the US healthcare infrastructure may be ill-equipped to respond to the COVID-19 pandemic.

Spoiler alert: It’s far from anything resembling a free market.

This stress on the healthcare system has been used to justify unprecedented restrictions on the use of government-owned public space. How would private owners of public space manage infection risk in a stateless society?

Use hashtag #ana029 to reference this episode in a tweet, post, or comment

View full show notes at https://anarchitecturepodcast.com/ana029.

----more---- Discussion
  • Our recording schedule is a victim of daylight savings time
  • Tim’s history with healthcare infrastructure
  • Peak vs. average capacity
  • Myopic medical experts
  • Tradeoffs between deaths from the virus and deaths from economoc destruction
  • Unique challenges of the COVID-19; patients on ventilators and ICU for weeks
  • Three constraints
    • Rooms
    • Staff
    • Equipment (Ventilators)
  • “Flattening the curve” – is it effective? Is it worth the cost?
  • Ratcheting up the surveillance state
    • The “Karen” busybody snitch phenomenon; a key ingredient of dystopian novels
  • Freedoms being suppressed
    • Freedom of movement
    • Freedom to work
    • Freedom of speech
  • Transmission of the virus is most likely to occur in a public space
  • Quarantine means you are prevented from using public space
  • How could a stateless society mitigate virus transmission risk?
  • Private ownership of public space – recap of our theory
    • Public access should be preserved on privately owned public spaces
    • Quarantine conflicts with preservation of public access
    • Government owners do not bear liability to users; private owners do
  • Virus transmission is similar to pollution emissions, however it increases risks to users of public space
  • Imposing a risk on others can be considered a form of aggression
    • What is the proportionate response?
  • Calculating the risk: “Go” x “Get” probabilities
    • Joe was the first in the office to self-isolate
    • Policymakers can’t control individual immune responses, but they can reduce transmission by closing public spaces
  • Owners of public space bear a responsibility to maintain the safety of that space, and balance safety and usability
    • Grocery stores as owners of “permissive public space” have responded quickly and effectively
    • People are maintaining safe distances voluntarily
    • Requirement to wear face masks could be more effective
    • Certificate of immunity – creepy under government, less so under decentralized private ownership
    • Public forms of ownership allow for public decision making without creating power structures
    • Decentralized ownership allows experimentation and rapid discovery of effective responses
  • History of the USA’s “free market” healthcare system
    • Throughout human history, healthcare meant dying in slightly more comfort
    • 18th century – Napolean’s military hospitals
    • George Washington’s top-notch medical treatment
    • Florence Nightingale: shift to healing rather than comfort
    • Evidence based medicine, scientific and technological advances
    • 1870: Public Health Service and the Surgeon General
    • Religious hospitals
    • Privately built hospitals
    • Municipal hospitals
    • Truman’s “Fair Deal” – urban renewal and universal health care
    • Hill-Burton Act – federal funding for hospital construction… with strings attached
    • Demonstration of economic viability – favored centralized healthcare facilities
    • “Reasonable amount of free care” to patients who were unable to pay
    • Medicare – shift from health insurance to third party payment
    • Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) – required emergency departments to treat everyone regardless of ability to pay
    • 55% of US emergency care goes uncompensated
    • 44% of US medical expenditures from Medicare and Medicaid
    • Australia’s “socialized” system: 76% publicly funded
    • Whoa, we’re halfway there
    • 1980’s: Diagnosis Related Group (DRG) system: hospital reimbursement based on an “episode of care” rather than actual costs incurred
    • No market pricing – just like rent control
    • Stifling construction and innovation
  • Case Studies
    • Critical Access Hospitals – federal funding, with strings attached
      • No more than 25 inpatient beds
      • Increasing patient volume forces inpatients into ER beds to avoid breaching limit
      • “It’s just some arbitrary number that some legislator pulled out of his ass.”
    • Surgery unit expansion –
      • Ambulatory surgery center in separate building
      • Medicare/Medicaid moved the goalposts by changing the criteria for the “hospital owned” outpatient facility reimbursement rate
      • A really expensive medical office building
    • “Life in a regulated market can be far more chaotic than it would likely be under a fully free market system”
    • “It may be the one industry in America that is the farthest removed from a free market.”
  • Joe’s Aversion to Hospitals
    • Chopping firewood is a danger to all great men
    • Australian first aid – “She’ll be right”
    • The New Royal Adelaide Hospital (RAH)
    • Follow up surgery choice – time or money?
    • “ER doctors: Please don’t come to the emergency room if you have a cold”
    • Obamacare fail #81627: “If everyone has insurance, people won’t go to the emergency room for a cold”
    • Fee based service and real health insurance (as opposed to health pre-payment)
    • A complete chaotic mess
  • Certificate of Need (CON)
    • obscure state level legislation that libertarians have dug up to complain about
    • Hospitals forced to justify any expansion
    • Assessment hearing – competitors whine about competition
    • Props up incumbents, preserves status quo
    • Avoidance of approval process influences hospital expansion decisions
    • Duplication of services – cost reduction through competition, and redundancy
    • New York was the first state to enact CON laws, and they have the lowest ICU beds per capita
    • Many states have removed CON requirements
  • 70 years of government intervention in the healthcare system
    • Consolidation due to “growth ponzi scheme” and administrative costs
    • Technology has been improving healthcare, removing profitable services from hospitals
  • Enter COVID-19
    • Patients need an “airborne infection isolation room” with negative pressure to prevent germs from getting out
    • Typical rooms have positive pressure to prevent germs from getting in
  • Temporary solutions
    • Convert existing hospital rooms to infection isolation rooms
    • ASHRAE guidelines to retrofit existing rooms
    • Army Corps of Engineers guidelines
      • Arena to Healthcare – difficult to get ICU quality treatment
    • China building 1,000 bed hospitals in 10 days
      • Healthcare theater?
      • Chinese government welding doors shut to enforce quarantine?
      • What happens to the excess ICU rooms after the peak has passed?
      • Certificate of need does not apply
    • Regional hospitals struggling – extra staff, fewer normal patients
    • Hotel to hospital?
    • Medical tents (NOT FEMA CAMPS… I hope…)
      • Keeps COVID patients out of main hospital
      • “You’re in a frigging tent.”
      • Evidence based design – out the window (because there are no windows)
    • Navy hospital ship
    • Now is not the time for a cruise to China
  • “There are no libertarians in a pandemic”
    • ACKSHUALLY…
    • Governments have failed on many fronts
    • Individuals and businesses have responded quickly and effectively
  • Is there public space in a pandemic?
    • Not under government ownership
  • “My rights are not subject to your lack of imagination.”
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Repurposing public space to impart wisdomBut public schools are still open

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How does a quarantine affect public space?

Why aren’t there enough ICU beds?

Tim reflects on his experience designing hospitals to explain why the US healthcare infrastructure may be ill-equipped to respond to the COVID-19 pandemic.

Spoiler alert: It’s far from anything resembling a free market.

This stress on the healthcare system has been used to justify unprecedented restrictions on the use of government-owned public space. How would private owners of public space manage infection risk in a stateless society?

Use hashtag #ana029 to reference this episode in a tweet, post, or comment

View full show notes at https://anarchitecturepodcast.com/ana029.

----more---- Discussion
  • Our recording schedule is a victim of daylight savings time
  • Tim’s history with healthcare infrastructure
  • Peak vs. average capacity
  • Myopic medical experts
  • Tradeoffs between deaths from the virus and deaths from economoc destruction
  • Unique challenges of the COVID-19; patients on ventilators and ICU for weeks
  • Three constraints
    • Rooms
    • Staff
    • Equipment (Ventilators)
  • “Flattening the curve” – is it effective? Is it worth the cost?
  • Ratcheting up the surveillance state
    • The “Karen” busybody snitch phenomenon; a key ingredient of dystopian novels
  • Freedoms being suppressed
    • Freedom of movement
    • Freedom to work
    • Freedom of speech
  • Transmission of the virus is most likely to occur in a public space
  • Quarantine means you are prevented from using public space
  • How could a stateless society mitigate virus transmission risk?
  • Private ownership of public space – recap of our theory
    • Public access should be preserved on privately owned public spaces
    • Quarantine conflicts with preservation of public access
    • Government owners do not bear liability to users; private owners do
  • Virus transmission is similar to pollution emissions, however it increases risks to users of public space
  • Imposing a risk on others can be considered a form of aggression
    • What is the proportionate response?
  • Calculating the risk: “Go” x “Get” probabilities
    • Joe was the first in the office to self-isolate
    • Policymakers can’t control individual immune responses, but they can reduce transmission by closing public spaces
  • Owners of public space bear a responsibility to maintain the safety of that space, and balance safety and usability
    • Grocery stores as owners of “permissive public space” have responded quickly and effectively
    • People are maintaining safe distances voluntarily
    • Requirement to wear face masks could be more effective
    • Certificate of immunity – creepy under government, less so under decentralized private ownership
    • Public forms of ownership allow for public decision making without creating power structures
    • Decentralized ownership allows experimentation and rapid discovery of effective responses
  • History of the USA’s “free market” healthcare system
    • Throughout human history, healthcare meant dying in slightly more comfort
    • 18th century – Napolean’s military hospitals
    • George Washington’s top-notch medical treatment
    • Florence Nightingale: shift to healing rather than comfort
    • Evidence based medicine, scientific and technological advances
    • 1870: Public Health Service and the Surgeon General
    • Religious hospitals
    • Privately built hospitals
    • Municipal hospitals
    • Truman’s “Fair Deal” – urban renewal and universal health care
    • Hill-Burton Act – federal funding for hospital construction… with strings attached
    • Demonstration of economic viability – favored centralized healthcare facilities
    • “Reasonable amount of free care” to patients who were unable to pay
    • Medicare – shift from health insurance to third party payment
    • Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) – required emergency departments to treat everyone regardless of ability to pay
    • 55% of US emergency care goes uncompensated
    • 44% of US medical expenditures from Medicare and Medicaid
    • Australia’s “socialized” system: 76% publicly funded
    • Whoa, we’re halfway there
    • 1980’s: Diagnosis Related Group (DRG) system: hospital reimbursement based on an “episode of care” rather than actual costs incurred
    • No market pricing – just like rent control
    • Stifling construction and innovation
  • Case Studies
    • Critical Access Hospitals – federal funding, with strings attached
      • No more than 25 inpatient beds
      • Increasing patient volume forces inpatients into ER beds to avoid breaching limit
      • “It’s just some arbitrary number that some legislator pulled out of his ass.”
    • Surgery unit expansion –
      • Ambulatory surgery center in separate building
      • Medicare/Medicaid moved the goalposts by changing the criteria for the “hospital owned” outpatient facility reimbursement rate
      • A really expensive medical office building
    • “Life in a regulated market can be far more chaotic than it would likely be under a fully free market system”
    • “It may be the one industry in America that is the farthest removed from a free market.”
  • Joe’s Aversion to Hospitals
    • Chopping firewood is a danger to all great men
    • Australian first aid – “She’ll be right”
    • The New Royal Adelaide Hospital (RAH)
    • Follow up surgery choice – time or money?
    • “ER doctors: Please don’t come to the emergency room if you have a cold”
    • Obamacare fail #81627: “If everyone has insurance, people won’t go to the emergency room for a cold”
    • Fee based service and real health insurance (as opposed to health pre-payment)
    • A complete chaotic mess
  • Certificate of Need (CON)
    • obscure state level legislation that libertarians have dug up to complain about
    • Hospitals forced to justify any expansion
    • Assessment hearing – competitors whine about competition
    • Props up incumbents, preserves status quo
    • Avoidance of approval process influences hospital expansion decisions
    • Duplication of services – cost reduction through competition, and redundancy
    • New York was the first state to enact CON laws, and they have the lowest ICU beds per capita
    • Many states have removed CON requirements
  • 70 years of government intervention in the healthcare system
    • Consolidation due to “growth ponzi scheme” and administrative costs
    • Technology has been improving healthcare, removing profitable services from hospitals
  • Enter COVID-19
    • Patients need an “airborne infection isolation room” with negative pressure to prevent germs from getting out
    • Typical rooms have positive pressure to prevent germs from getting in
  • Temporary solutions
    • Convert existing hospital rooms to infection isolation rooms
    • ASHRAE guidelines to retrofit existing rooms
    • Army Corps of Engineers guidelines
      • Arena to Healthcare – difficult to get ICU quality treatment
    • China building 1,000 bed hospitals in 10 days
      • Healthcare theater?
      • Chinese government welding doors shut to enforce quarantine?
      • What happens to the excess ICU rooms after the peak has passed?
      • Certificate of need does not apply
    • Regional hospitals struggling – extra staff, fewer normal patients
    • Hotel to hospital?
    • Medical tents (NOT FEMA CAMPS… I hope…)
      • Keeps COVID patients out of main hospital
      • “You’re in a frigging tent.”
      • Evidence based design – out the window (because there are no windows)
    • Navy hospital ship
    • Now is not the time for a cruise to China
  • “There are no libertarians in a pandemic”
    • ACKSHUALLY…
    • Governments have failed on many fronts
    • Individuals and businesses have responded quickly and effectively
  • Is there public space in a pandemic?
    • Not under government ownership
  • “My rights are not subject to your lack of imagination.”
Links/Resources Episodes Mentioned

Repurposing public space to impart wisdomBut public schools are still open

Contact:

Email us: [email protected]
Tweet us: @anarchitecturep

Follow:

Website: https://www.anarchitecturepodcast.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/anarchitecturepodcast/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anarchitecturep/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/anarchitecturep/
Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/AnarchitecturePodcst
Minds: https://www.minds.com/AnarchitecturePodcast

Subscribe:

iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/anarchitecture/id1091252412
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWELM_zTl7tXLgT-rDKpSvg
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5pepyQfA25PBz6bzKzlynf?si=4UiD6cLkR6Wd26wJC4S4YQ
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Stitcher: http://www.stitcher.com/s?fid=85082&refid=stpr
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RSS (all posts): https://www.anarchitecturepodcast.com/feed/
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