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What do you do when you’re 20 minutes away from ending it all? For Gretchen, the answer was dialing 988—and it saved her life.
In this raw, unfiltered episode of All Can No Can’t, Jeff Luther sits down with Gretchen Schoser, co-host of the award-winning podcast The Sh!t That Goes On In Our Heads, suicide attempt survivor, and fierce advocate for the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. At 61, Gretchen rebuilt her life from the ground up, turning pain into purpose and creating a company dedicated to resilience and growth.
We go deep into:
The stigma and silence around mental health—especially for high-functioning professionals.
What really happens when you call 988 and why it’s for anyone in crisis.
How gratitude, laughter, and boundaries became Gretchen’s survival toolkit.
The healing power of taking off the “mask” and letting people in.
Why the “life is short” mantra can be misleading—and what to focus on instead.
This conversation is proof that the clouds always part, that asking for help is a sign of strength, and that your story can be rewritten—no matter how dark it feels right now.
📞 If you’re in crisis in the U.S., call or text 988. In Canada, call 988. You are loved, wanted, and needed.
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YouTube Chapters:
00:00 – Facing the fear of judgment
01:18 – Turning obstacles into opportunities
02:02 – Meet Gretchen Shows
03:34 – The events leading to December 25th, 2022
06:13 – The stigma around talking about mental health
10:31 – Christmas Day: 20 minutes from the edge
11:59 – What calling 988 is really like
15:09 – Listening with your ears, not your mouth
16:26 – Why “life is short” can be misleading
21:33 – Thinking about the people left behind
24:07 – The truth about high-functioning depression
26:29 – Finding healing through laughter and podcasting
28:59 – Retirement, reinvention, and joy
32:31 – Daily habits that fuel resilience
34:28 – Gratitude as a survival tool
36:15 – The importance of therapy and support groups
37:25 – Rebuilding relationships and communication
39:25 – Asking better questions to save lives
42:38 – Gretchen’s upcoming book and final thoughts
43:15 – Closing: Finding the “can” in every “can’t”
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