Adversity is inevitable—but how we respond determines whether it becomes a weight, a test, or a path forward. In this episode, we distinguish between depression, endurance, and growth: three very different experiences that can look the same on the surface. The conversation challenges us to discern when we are stuck, when we are holding steady, and when we are truly being refined.

🔑 Key Takeaways

• Depression disguises itself as permanence, convincing us “this is just the way life is”
• Endurance sustains us, but without openness it risks becoming mere stagnation
• Growth requires awareness, risk, and a willingness to remain open through challenge

💬 Featured Quotes

• 0:00:00 – “Depending where you are in your life and where you are in the world right now, some of the advice and guidance… may seem challenging.”
• 0:00:12 – “There are opportunities for you to choose adversity. There are other opportunities for you to grow through adversity.”
• 0:00:20 – “But in some cases, you might be tempted to believe that the adversity that you’re facing… is just the way life is.”
• 0:00:28 – “When you start to accept them as normative, it’s important to understand that there are probably other things going on.”

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Creators & Guests

• Brian Mattocks - Host