This episode of A land without music? is the first of a 2 part interview with composer, clarinetist and conductor Jörg Widmann.

As a composer, his music ranges from tonal works openly referencing the greats of the past such as Mozart and Schumann, to wild, pitchless celebrations of sound and rhythm. He's also in great demand as a wonderfully virtuosic performer and as a lively and engaging conductor.

At the time of the interview he was composer in residence with the Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra and on the day it was recorded he'd been up working on a commission for them from 6am. He then spent a full day conducting a rehearsal with the BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra, before returning to the commission for more composing.

Eventually, Jörg sat down with Julian for the interview and was enthusiastic, bright and brimming with energy throughout. And he gave us far more time than had actually been agreed.

He is a genuine force of nature.