Using the wisdom of the Enneagram, and ongoing discussion and conversation, we will grow compassion for ourselves and others, as well as a better understanding for why we do what we do!
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The Road Back to You: Looking at Life Through the Lens of the Enneagram
Ian Morgan Cron & Suzanne Stabile
This podcast explores the enneagram, a newly revived yet ancient spiritual tool of personality discovery which helps you better understand yourself, others and God.
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Each week on the Dauntless Grace Exchange podcast, Deedra Mager and Megan Hall continue their journey towards becoming wholly integrated. As they grow and learn, they bring tools like the Enneagram and Internal Family Systems therapy model to encourage you in your mental and emotional health. Ultimately, it’s all about connection: connecting to others, connecting to God, and connecting back to yourself.
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Jen Hanson (2) - Boundaries, False Self-esteem, Forgive Yourself
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1:08:04Let's do some math. 2 + 2 - 7 = a great episode of The Enneagram Journey! Enneagram 2, Jen Hanson, joins fellow 2, Suzanne Stabile on today's show, but we lost our 7 Joel for this one. Don't like the episode too much, it'll hurt his feelings. Can you have an enneagram conversation between a couple of Twos without talking about boundaries? The stren…
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Russ Hudson (5) - Holy Ideas, Cultural Parameters, What To Hold On To
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1:18:07Russ Hudson is back on the show, and is going to blow your mind! The show starts with a little catching up, so we get to hear about some of Russ' travels, and we look forward to IEA Experience 2025 that features both Russ and Suzanne! How has the Enneagram, or our understanding of the enneagram, evolved over the years? Russ shares their 3 rules he …
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Tori Hastings (5) - Vulnerability, 2nd Shift, Engaging
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1:08:01Meet Tori Hastings, enneagram 5! As promised, we are definitely not going to talk about golf, and we are going to talk about somatic therapy, what we do when we get home from our day, what Tori's life looked like over the past 30 years in Alabama, and did Suzanne make a revision to the Centers of Intelligence? "You don't achieve balance by pushing …
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Katie Whitlock (3) - Deceit, Escaping to the Future, 9fold
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1:15:53Get your pen and paper ready, because this episode is FULL of incredible enneagram teaching from not one BUT TWO! enneagram teachers (and neither are Joel). Katie Whitlock (3), yes, the daughter of The Enneagram Journey's own Sara Whitlock (2), joins Suzanne in this episode. Seriously, so much good wisdom in this one Escaping to the future What do …
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Darnell (1) & Alex (8) Finale - Cohort, Excess, Indignation
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1:19:08Alex and Darnell are back to share their final thoughts and feelings about their experience in the 2024 Enneagram Cohort with Suzanne! If this series of conversations with Darnell and Alex has raised your interest in the LTM Cohort program, we hope you will check it out and apply. Applications for the following year's Cohort program are accepted Ap…
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Sara Whitlock (2) - Saying No, Feeling v Thinking
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1:01:49You've asked for more Enneagram Twos on the show, and here is a great start! Meet Sara Whitlock. Sara is a nurse practitioner from Ohio. Married to JD, an Enneagram 5, she and one of her daughters were both a part of the 2024 Enneagram Cohort with Suzanne (we'll get to hear from her daughter Katie in an upcoming episode!). PLUG TIME Great events co…
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Laura Murray (4) - Home, Hospitality, Spiritual Practice
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1:29:06Happy 2025 to everyone on their Enneagram Journey! And even to those who haven't started yet. The first episode of the year is fantastic and features pastor, spiritual director, and author Laura Murray, Enneagram 4. Laura is married to an Enneagram 5 The difference between Home and where you belong Some surprising Enneagram Wing discussion with Suz…
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193: A Farewell, Reflection, and a New Beginning
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26:19In the final episode of The Dauntless Grace Exchange, Deedra and Megan look back on their incredible journey over the past year, reflecting on the words they chose for 2024 and how they’ve played out in their lives. From challenges faced to growth experienced, these words have been guiding lights, and now they share the impact these words had on th…
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192: Boundaries for Your Soul with Dr. Alison Cook
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38:09In this timeless conversation, Megan and Deedra are joined by Dr. Alison Cook, who shares wisdom about Internal Family Systems and its transformative impact on our emotional and spiritual health. Dr. Cook offers practical steps to create healthy boundaries and walks us through how God works within our souls to bring healing. Whether it’s your first…
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We're throwing it back today to episode 50: Things We're Thankful For to celebrate the upcoming Thanksgiving holiday and to share our excitement about our February retreat! Don't miss out on the amazing things our retreats offer: community, connection, and healing.
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190: Four Years of the Dauntless Grace Exchange
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30:27We dropped our first episode of this pandemic podcast four years ago this week, and today we are celebrating that! We're talking about some of our favorite guests, series, and episodes, and also giving you more behind-the-scenes discussions about what goes into making each episode. Plus: find out what is next for us!…
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Jonathan Merritt (3) - Navigating Relationships, My Guncle and Me
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1:10:23Your Enneagram Godmother and an Enneagram Guncle got together for this INCREDIBLE conversation! If you don't know Jonathan yet, Enneagram 3, this is a wonderful introduction. "...othering the other that othered them." It'll make more sense after you hear him talk about it! Jonathan is a writer on faith and culture, the author of Learning To Speak G…
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Amber Runyan returns to the podcast to discuss how complex trauma can affect how people understand the parts of themselves. Listen to her give practical tips on how to use coping skills to return to the present moment in order to understand what our protector parts are doing. Amber Runyan is a 23 year old enneagram nine! She is currently in her las…
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188: IFS & the Male Perspective with Paul Mager
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40:29Deedra's husband Paul joins us today to discuss his journey through learning about the Enneagram and IFS! You don't want to miss hearing his story and why these tools were the keys to unlocking so much more healing in his life.
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This is an extra special episode! Deedra and Megan were interviewed on Tammy Sollenberger's podcast The One Inside about how they use Internal Family Systems in their relationship. This kicks off a series on IFS in all different kinds of relationships, so don't miss how they talk about it as friends! You can find Tammy and The One Inside podcast at…
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The Enneagram Godmother + The Great Russ Hudson + The Reverend Where do we sign up?!?! Today's podcast episode comes from the LTM teaching event in Dallas, Br5aking The Cycle (don't worry, you'll learn why it is spelled that way and what 5a means). As you'll hear Joel explain, this 2 hour teaching is only the opening for the rest of the next 10 hou…
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186: SUZANNE STABILE (The Enneagram Godmother)
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50:03We are still pinching ourselves that we had the honor of speaking with Suzanne Stabile! This conversation is filled with grace, truth, love, and wisdom as we are all figuring out how to live in such a divided society. As an internationally recognized Enneagram Master, Suzanne has conducted over 500 Enneagram workshops over the past 30 years. She ha…
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Its Q&A time on The Enneagram Journey! Suzanne and Joel sat down to record today's episode at The Micah Center and decided at the last moment to turn on the camera. Having the camera on contributed to the conversation about seeing a therapist and accountability, and the show just takes off from there. Some of the things you'll here in this episode:…
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185: Engaging in Political Conversations (Enneagram 9, Jenna Battleson)
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32:35Jenna, an enneagram 9, is a recently ordained elder with the Free Methodist Church. She and her family served as Free Methodist World Missionaries in Chiang Mai, Thailand from 2018-2021. Now she considers herself a missionary stateside and is planting a micro-church in Iowa City, Iowa alongside some of her best friends. When not working on her chur…
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184: Engaging in Political Conversations (Enneagram 3, Hope Mackenzie)
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37:57Former guest Hope Mackenzie returns today to discuss how she engages in community, policy, and political conversations as an enneagram 3!
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183: Engaging in Political Conversations (Enneagram 5, Ginger Coakley)
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33:09We brought returning guest Reverend Ginger Coakley to the pod today to discuss how she engages politically as an enneagram 5! We also define what we mean by politics, social justice, and the role the church is called to play.
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182: Engaging in Political Conversations (Enneagram 1 and 4)
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33:37Deedra (enneagram 1) and Megan (enneagram 4) talk about how they engage in conversations during the election season, and what things hold them back and what spur them forward.
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Darnell (1) and Alex (8) - Be Right or In Relationship?, Triggers, Enneagram Cohort
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1:31:29The second half of 2024 is well underway and so is the second half of the 2024 Cohort Program. Welcome back Alex Reegan (enneagram 8) and Darnell Young (enneagram 1)! Our third guest, Matt Lesser (8), couldn't join us for this conversation, but he'll be back at the end of the year for sure! Today's episode is fantastic: Is "triggered" still a term …
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181: Taylor Cassidy, a Black Gen Z Influencer (Diverse Perspectives)
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25:34This summer, we are featuring stories from diverse perspectives in order to stir curiosity and compassion for others. While we don’t necessarily endorse every stated view, we stand by each guest as a fellow image-bearer and a human of inherent value. We invite you to listen with an open mind and open heart as you hear the pain, struggle, and triump…
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180: Courtney Woods, on Divorce (Diverse Perspectives)
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40:28This summer, we are featuring stories from diverse perspectives in order to stir curiosity and compassion for others. While we don’t necessarily endorse every stated view, we stand by each guest as a fellow image-bearer and a human of inherent value. We invite you to listen with an open mind and open heart as you hear the pain, struggle, and triump…
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179: Kari Morris-Guzman, a Disabled Woman (Diverse Perspectives)
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37:11This summer, we are featuring stories from diverse perspectives in order to stir curiosity and compassion for others. While we don’t necessarily endorse every stated view, we stand by each guest as a fellow image-bearer and a human of inherent value. We invite you to listen with an open mind and open heart as you hear the pain, struggle, and triump…
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178: Shayla Sandberg, a Biracial Adoptee (Diverse Perspectives)
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25:01This summer, we are featuring stories from diverse perspectives in order to stir curiosity and compassion for others. While we don’t necessarily endorse every stated view, we stand by each guest as a fellow image-bearer and a human of inherent value. We invite you to listen with an open mind and open heart as you hear the pain, struggle, and triump…
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Micky ScottBey Jones (1) - Accompaniment, Doula, Burnout
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1:18:02Meet The Justice Doula, Micky ScottBey Jones! Originally mistyped as an 8, which makes a ton of sense, she found her inner critic and her "inner BFF" as an Enneagram 1, and no accompanies others as they birth precious things into the world like love, empathy, self-compassion, liberation, healing and resilience. You can find out more about Micky at …
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177: Dani Wilson, a Transmasculine Bisexual (Diverse Perspectives)
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38:09This summer, we are featuring stories from diverse perspectives in order to stir curiosity and compassion for others. While we don’t necessarily endorse every stated view, we stand by each guest as a fellow image-bearer and a human of inherent value. We invite you to listen with an open mind and open heart as you hear the pain, struggle, and triump…
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176: Joani Akers & Aseel Thamer, on Refugees in America (Diverse Perspectives)
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45:41This summer, we are featuring stories from diverse perspectives in order to stir curiosity and compassion for others. While we don’t necessarily endorse every stated view, we stand by each guest as a fellow image-bearer and a human of inherent value. We invite you to listen with an open mind and open heart as you hear the pain, struggle, and triump…
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175: Kristen Marble, a female pastor (Diverse Perspectives)
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46:29This summer, we are featuring stories from diverse perspectives in order to stir curiosity and compassion for others. While we don’t necessarily endorse every stated view, we stand by each guest as a fellow image-bearer and a human of inherent value. We invite you to listen with an open mind and open heart as you hear the pain, struggle, and triump…
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Luke Norsworthy (7) - How to Love the Life You Already Have
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59:46We've officially named Luke the first member of The Enneagram Journey 5 Timer Club! It's a big deal. Not as big a deal though as his latest book, How To Love The Life You Already Have. If you're looking for the Richard Rohr books Suzanne suggests to read in order (he has many more great ones!) here they are: Everything Belongs, The Naked Now, Falli…
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174: Dr. Larissa Malone, an Afro-Latina (Diverse Perspectives)
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173: Vanilda Reyes de Noyes, a first-generation American (Diverse Perspectives)
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39:28This summer, we are featuring stories from diverse perspectives in order to stir curiosity and compassion for others. While we don’t necessarily endorse every stated view, we stand by each guest as a fellow image-bearer and a human of inherent value. We invite you to listen with an open mind and open heart as you hear the pain, struggle, and triump…
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Tony Jones (8) - The God of Wild Places
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1:04:11Enneagram 8, Tony Jones, steps out of the woods and into The Micah Center to sit down with Suzanne and her husband, Rev. Joseph Stabile, to talk about his latest book, The God of Wild Places. “One of the things I like about the wilderness is that it is not controllable. We’ve paved too many wild places.” If you haven't read The God of Wild Places y…
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172: Bethany Abbott on Singleness (Diverse Perspectives)
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34:02This summer, we are featuring stories from diverse perspectives in order to stir curiosity and compassion for others. While we don’t necessarily endorse every stated view, we stand by each guest as a fellow image-bearer and a human of inherent value. We invite you to listen with an open mind and open heart as you hear the pain, struggle, and triump…
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