Best Perdoo Podcasts (2026)

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S10: E14 What If We Stopped Calling Them OKRs? 41:27

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We're sure you've heard the acronym: OKRs - Objectives and Key Results. But somewhere along the way, the simplicity got lost in translation. In this episode, we ask: What if we stopped calling them OKRs altogether? Roger Longden, TBG Founder and Marc Applebaum PM2 OKR Consultant at PM2 discuss how goal-setting became over engineered, why rhythms ma…

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S10: E13 From the ground up - cracking the code on frontline alignment 33:55

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In this insightful episode of Giant Talk, Roger sits down with Sonia, an experienced HR professional and coach, to explore the critical challenge of organisational alignment. They dive deep into why strategic goals often get lost or diluted as they cascade through different levels of an organisation. Drawing from decades of experience at the board …

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S10: E12 The shifting OKR landscape - Insights from Perdoo’s Founder 34:34

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In this episode, we sit down with our long-time friend Henrik-Jan Van Der Pol, Founder of Perdoo, to dig into the evolving world of OKRs. As the market shifts, with consultancies and software providers consolidating or shutting down, what’s really going on? Henrik-Jan shares his insights on these changes, the lessons learned over the past 4–5 years…

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S10: E11 Why care about Accountability? 40:13

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In this episode, we’re joined by Sten, founder of Tability, an OKR platform designed to make accountability seamless and help teams achieve their goals faster. We chat about how accountability fits into the OKR framework and why this is so crucial. Sten explains that while teams often excel at setting goals during workshops, they frequently “drop t…

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S10: E10 OKRs and the future: Staying relevant in a data-driven world 38:33

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Welcome back to another episode of Giant Talk. In this episode, we sit down with Jonathan Elliot, a seasoned CEO with a career spanning commercial sales & marketing, strategy consulting, and leadership. Jonathan shares his expertise on implementing Objectives and Key Results (OKRs) in large, complex organisations and the unique challenges that come…

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S10: E9 Beyond lip service - building real collaboration and culture 41:06

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In this episode, we explore the power of communication with James Milsom, Head of Marketing at Hunter.AI. With extensive experience across tech start-ups and large SMBs, James shares his perspective on why communication serves as the bedrock of both success and failure within organisations. From enhancing collaboration to avoiding costly missteps, …

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S10: E8 The good, the bad and the ugly of becoming investable 50:36

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In this podcast episode we sit down with James Church, COO and Co-Founder of investment readiness agency Robot Mascot. We dive into (from a founders perspective) the good, the bad and the ugly of becoming investable. What are the top 3 things that make a Founder (and their business) investable? How important is it to investors to be confident that …

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S10: E7 Are your teams wasting time on things they shouldn't be ? 28:50

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In this episode Roger sits down with a Chief Elephant Spotter (curious, listen to find out what this entails). James Pels is founder of Proven EA, a consultancy specialising in providing business transformation, agile coaching and digital transformation services to a wide range of industries in the public and private sectors. Roger and James dive i…

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S10: E6 How to sustainably invest in your organisational culture 37:14

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Welcome back to Giant Talk! In this episode Roger has an interesting conversation with Luke Fisher, CEO of Mo. Luke shares his journey from a fintech company undergoing cultural transformation to founding Mo, a platform designed to help managers and leaders sustainably invest in organisational culture. We dive into the significance of high-performi…

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S10: E5 Building High-Performance Cultures: Insights from the Royal Air Force 35:38

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Like any military organisation, command and control is necessary, especially in battle. When the stakes are this high, how can the time and space be made for testing new ideas, and challenging the status quo? So how does an organisation like the UK’s Royal Air Force learn, adapt and grow when hierarchy and orders are commonplace? Flight Lieutenant …

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S10: E4 The Advantages of OKRs in scaling businesses 23:57

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In this episode, we reconnect with ECO Surv, a valued client from just over a year ago. ECO Surv offer compliance and workflow management solutions in the energy efficiency, retro fit and renewables sector. Dive into the conversation with Nate, Co-Founder and CEO, and Bex, People and Culture Manager, as they share their journey with OKRs. Discover …

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S10: E3 Why should leaders care if they have a psychologically safe workplace? 35:49

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Welcome to another episode of Giant Talk. In this episode Roger chats to chats to Joanna, Head of Academy and Expert Consultant at There Be Giants. This episode shines a spotlight on the important, yet often overlooked, topic of psychological safety in the workplace. Jo brings a wealth of knowledge and experience from her work at There Be Giants an…

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S10: E2 The battle between waterfall and agile methodologies 28:22

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We're clearly big fan of OKRs, but we're not so blindly fanatical that we don’t accept they are only part of the picture when it comes to strategy execution. OKRs signpost and help to chart progress at a high level but don’t do a great job at defining and tracking the details; they need to interface with the next level, and that’s often project man…

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S10: E1 Setting your OKR teams up for success 32:48

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OKR teams rarely find themselves based in the same location, so forming and working together brings all the challenges of hybrid working in today's contemporary organisations. This is why we was particularly interested in having a chat with Alexandra Samuel, after reading her HBR article “3 Project Management Strategies for a Hybrid Workplace”. In …

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Running an OKR proof of concept (with the City of Quebec) 28:21

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OKR is essentially change management. Therefore, to ensure that OKR is the right framework for a large organization, they typically choose to run an OKR proof of concept (POC) with a department or team first. We spoke to Jean-Luc Koning, OKR coach and co-founder of IN EXCELSIS, who ran the OKR POC with the IT team at The City of Quebec, the capital…

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S9: E18 What does it mean to lead with vulnerability? 27:35

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Welcome back to Giant Talk, the world’s first OKR podcast. In this episode, Roger chats to Jacob Morgan author, futurist, & keynote Speaker on leadership, employee experience, & the future of work. In this discussion, Jacob talks about the topic of leading with vulnerability. How do you as a leader share a vulnerable side, share any gaps you have a…

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Your business is a machine: how to design, build, and run it successfully 34:50

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Let's assume your business is a machine. There are different activities and processes your machine goes through in order for it to be fully functional and successful. Those activities include designing, building, and running the machine. But what does that truly mean for your business? We spoke to Richard Russell, an OKR and Leadership Coach, about…

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S9: E17 Using OKRs to transform the business, hear from a Cloud Solution Architect at Microsoft 31:43

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Welcome back to Giant Talk, the world’s first OKR podcast. In this episode, Roger chats to Ryan Lowdermilk, Cloud Solution Architect at Microsoft, an OKR Champion and OKR Coach for the Microsoft Tech team for the America’s. Ryan chats to Roger about the use of OKRs at Microsoft, how OKRs can break through the hierarchy and why OKRs should be a ligh…

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S9: E16 Nurturing an open reporting culture and the importance of psychological safety 39:10

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Welcome back to Giant Talk, the world’s first OKR podcast. In this episode, Roger catches up with Tracey Boylin, CEO of Organisational Genetics. Organisational Genetics was born out of the real life experiences of the founders to address the challenge of nurturing a more open reporting culture in the NHS and other organisations. Tracey chats to Rog…

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S9: E14 Leading organisational transformation - How can organisations embrace AI to gain competitive advantage? 46:37

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Welcome back to Giant Talk, the world’s longest running OKR podcast. In this episode, Roger chats with Behnam Tabrizi, of Stanford University. Behnam - a 3X award-winning scholar and educator - has been teaching “Leading Organisational Transformation” at Stanford University's Department of Management Science & Engineering and executive programs for…

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S9:E13 What impact did OKRs have on a leading L&D solution? 36:47

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Welcome back to Giant Talk, the world’s first OKR podcast. In this episode, Roger catches up with Patrick Jocelyn, Chief Executive Officer at Omniplex Learning, a client of TBG. Omniplex Learning is the complete learning and development solution. Award-winning authoring tools, market-leading learning management systems, bespoke digital learning cre…

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S9:E12 Is cross-functional collaboration the key to transformational performance? 28:29

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There are countless things we love today that began as a single idea that developed into something spectacular after partnering with another. A key question, therefore, needs to be: how can we work smarter, not harder, whilst adapting to ongoing changes and improving organisational performance? We teamed up with HR Fusion to conduct some of our own…

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S9: E11 The essentials of building great alignment.. 1:05:40

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Join us to spend a fascinating hour digging into the often-misunderstood concept of “alignment” with Jonathon Hensley – CEO, board member of multiple silicon valley businesses and author of the book called, yes, you guessed it: “Alignment.” Jonathon has long been curious about why some businesses manage to align really well, and others don’t. What …

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S9: E10 Keeping up with the rapidly involving space of AI 44:54

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Welcome back to Giant Talk, the world’s longest running OKR podcast. Join us for a series of special episodes in conversation with long-standing organisational performance expert, Brett Knowles. In this episode, we take a deeper dive into AI and the five major components of being able to use AI. Enjoy the episode!…

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S9: E15 How to use design sprints as a way to solve business critical questions. 39:06

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Welcome back to Giant Talk, the world’s first OKR podcast. In this episode, Roger chats to Sara Jacklin, an expert facilitator with a specialism in design sprints. Sara has worked with many clients using design sprints as a sophisticated problem-solving process. Sara chats to Roger about how best to use design sprints and using them in an agile way…

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S9: E9 Integrating AI into your OKR processes 32:49

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Welcome back to Giant Talk, the world’s first OKR podcast. Join us for a series of special episodes in conversation with long-standing organisational performance expert, Brett Knowles. In this third episode, we discuss the concept of AI and in particular Chatgpt , how can you integrate this into your OKR processes? Enjoy the episode!…

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S9: E8 A dive into the often controversial subject ‘Should OKRs be linked to reward & recognition? 42:49

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Welcome back to Giant Talk, the world’s first OKR podcast. Join us for a series of special episodes in conversation with long-standing organisational performance expert, Brett Knowles. Throughout these we will be looking at some of the emerging challenges facing organisations today as we all try to adapt to the new normal of rapidly accelerating ch…

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S9: E7 Does the organisational ’OS’ need to evolve in order to cope with the ’new normal’? 45:17

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Welcome back to Giant Talk, the world’s first OKR podcast. Join us for the first of a series of special episodes in conversation with long-standing organisational performance expert, Brett Knowles. Throughout these we will be looking at some of the emerging challenges facing organisations today as we all try to adapt to the new normal of rapidly ac…

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S9: E6 How important are your company values ? 34:17

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Welcome back to Giant Talk, the world’s first OKR podcast. In this episode, we are joined by Tom Rausch, Director of Consulting at Barrett values centre. Tom chats to Roger about his work at Barrett transforming businesses, and the changing trends they’ve seen when it comes to values and culture. Enjoy the episode!…

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S9: E5 How Talk Talk used OKRs to help bring their strategy to life 31:06

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Welcome back to Giant Talk. In this episode, Roger welcomes Ian Turner, Talent Director at Talk Talk, a telecommunications organisation providing pay television and Internet access services to businesses and consumers in the United Kingdom. Ian chats to Roger about the Talk Talk OKR journey and the benefits they have seen from using them. Enjoy the…

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S9: E4 OKRs vs KPIs – dispelling some common myths 39:58

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Welcome back to Giant Talk, the world’s first OKR podcast. In this episode host Roger Longden chats to Bernie Smith, a KPI guru! Roger and Bernie dig into the topic ‘OKR vs KPIs’, and dispel some common myths. How and when should you use OKRs & KPIs? Listen to this insightful conversation to find out. Enjoy the episode!…

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S9: E3 How has the OKR market evolved and what does the future hold? 27:57

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Welcome back to Giant Talk, the world’s first OKR podcast. After being at the forefront of the OKR space for some time, Roger Longden, Founder and Chairman of TBG joins us to share his learnings and thoughts on OKR, and the change he has seen in the OKR world. He also gives an update about his new role as Chairman of TBG. Enjoy the episode! Links T…

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S9: E2 A deep dive into the outcome-driven mindset and what it means to be an outcome-focused organisation. 47:45

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Welcome back to Giant Talk, the world’s first OKR podcast. In the second episode of series 9 we are joined by Kyle Byrd, partner at Adventure Fund and former Product Manager at Atlassian. Kyle is a big advocate of OKRs and shares his experience of using them with Roger. Enjoy the episode! Links Join the Blueprint Community - decisions.community…

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S9: E1 An approach to using OKRs with agile working. 28:31

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Welcome back to Giant Talk, the world’s first OKR podcast. Kicking off this new season, and back with Roger Longden as host, we welcome Ahmed Elnahas, IT Manager at NN Group. Ahmed has been working with OKRs for some time and has an interesting take on how he uses them and how OKRs can work with agile. Enjoy the episode! Links Join our OKR Professi…

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Third time's a charm: Why an unsuccessful OKR implementation doesn’t mean failure with OKR 31:44

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OKR is an iterative process — it's essentially change management. The truth is that you may not succeed when implementing OKR for the first time, maybe not even the second time. And that's fine. OKR is a flexible and forgiving framework. Once you've mastered it, it will positively impact how you operate as a business. So don't give up just yet! We …

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S8: E5 Creating a sense of purpose in the workplace. 27:05

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Welcome back to Giant Talk, the world’s first OKR podcast. In this episode, we are joined by Chris Abbass, CEO and Founder of Talentful - a global talent recruitment company for tech companies. In this episode, we talk about the importance of a sense of purpose in the workplace. Enjoy the episode!By There Be Giants

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S8: E4 Creativity and strategy vs analysis and planning. 25:15

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Welcome back to Giant Talk, the world’s first OKR podcast. In this episode we are joined by Mike Goitein, an Enterprise OKR, Agile, and Product coach at KeyBank, a top-20 US bank. Mike, who has a background in IT consulting, now supports KeyBank’s ongoing Agile transformation. In this episode we talk about creativity and strategy vs analysis and pl…

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Empowered teams built on OKR 23:48

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Every organization strives to have teams that perform well. However, the process of designing such high-performing teams and creating an environment in which people can thrive, is often an overlooked process. Why is that the case? Aren't people your most important resource after all? So, what are high-performing, empowered teams? And, how can you c…

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S8: E3 The power of leadership, and leading an organisation through its transformation phase. 20:01

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Welcome back to Giant Talk. In this episode we talk to Glo Gordon, CEO of MATRIXX Software, a global leader in 5G monetization solutions for the telecom industry. Glo talks to us about the power of leadership, and leading an organisation through its transformation phase, even during a difficult time during the pandemic. Enjoy the episode!…

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S8: E2 How to get the best possible chance of success when delivering OKRs into your organisation. 26:46

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Welcome back to Giant Talk, the world’s first OKR podcast. Today I am delighted to be joined by Tim Calderhead, a consultant here at There Be Giants. Tim has a background in leading transformational change and he is also a star in our YouTube video series - check our channel out if you’re yet to do so! Today we are going to talk about how you can g…

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S8: E1 Are misaligned OKRs a bad thing? 35:26

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In this episode of Giant Talk we're joined by Sten Pittet, Co-founder and CEO at Tability, an OKR software that helps you move away from spreadsheets for focus and accountability. Today we are going to talk about misalignment and why this might not be a bad thing. Enjoy the episode!By There Be Giants

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S7: E16 An OKR journey with learnings along the way… 24:02

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In this episode of Giant Talk we chat to Rico Surridge, Chief Product & Technology Officer at Which? The UK’s consumer champion, raising awareness of consumer rights and offering independent advice. Today we are going to talk about Rico’s OKR journey and his key learnings along the way. Enjoy the episode!…

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Navigate uncertainty with OKR 23:48

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We live in times of immense uncertainty — which tends to lead to an unclear outlook on where your organization and teams are headed. Setting a sound strategy and subsequent goals to help you succeed becomes all the more difficult. While the OKR framework may not be a solution for turbulent internal and external circumstances, it is a tool that can …

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S7: E15 The benefits of strategic alignment and getting everyone ‘on the same bus’ 28:31

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In this episode of Giant Talk we’re delighted to be joined by Keith Nichol, Planning Director and Co-founder at Flourish Direct Marketing, a specialist CRM agency. Having been a business owner for over 18 years, Keith has a wealth of knowledge around strategic planning which we’ll dig into today. Enjoy the episode!…

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S7: E14 How can becoming an OKR Coach benefit not only your organisation, but you as an individual? 24:11

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In this episode of Giant Talk we’re delighted to be joined by Margaux Joly, Change Manager at And Digital. Margaux joins us to talk about the benefits of OKR coach training and how this can impact not only your organisation or the organisation you work in, but you as an individual. Enjoy the episode!…

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S7: E13 As an entrepreneur how do you keep your finger on the pulse and continue to innovate? 45:23

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In this episode of Giant Talk we’re delighted to be joined by Mark Homza, Co-founder and CEO at Funday, a performance marketing agency. Having been an entrepreneur for over 15 years, Mark is going to talk to us about innovation and why it’s important to always be looking ahead. Enjoy the episode!By There Be Giants

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S7: E12 How can feedback and coaching benefit your business? 26:14

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In this episode of Giant Talk we’re delighted to be joined by our own consultant Joanna Thirkettle. Today Jo is going to talk to us about feedback and coaching. We'll talk through the differences and why feedback and coaching can benefit your business. We’ll also discuss how feedback can drive forward your OKRs. Enjoy the episode! Mentioned in the …

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How flexible is the OKR framework? 41:44

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OKR is essentially a cumulation of goal management best practices that were collected over the past few decades and compiled into a framework. These OKR best practices act as guidelines to ensure your organization is set up for success. Having said that, every organization is different. And the beauty of OKR is that it provides enough flexibility, …

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S7: E11 Testing, learning and adapting - it’s what OKRs are all about 17:38

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In this episode of Giant Talk we’re delighted to be joined by Sarah Shultz, Strategy & Communications Lead at OfficeTogether. Today Sarah is going to talk to us about her experience using OKRs from the good, the not so good and the bad. Enjoy the episode!By There Be Giants

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S7: E10 How can OKRs be used to fuel innovation? 25:20

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In this episode of Giant Talk we’re delighted to be joined by Andy Binns, co-founder of Change Logic and corporate innovation guru. Today Andy is going to talk to us about innovation in the corporate world and how OKRs can be used to fuel innovation. You can purchase the Corporate Explore here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corporate-Explorer-Corporatio…