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We’re having real and raw conversations with successful recruitment entrepreneurs about what is happening in their businesses right now and their plans to navigate market changes.
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We talk about marketing and business development ideas for small business. Also we share stories of business success and failures in hopes that other businesses can learn from them.
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Season 9 | Ep 4 Ricky Burns: How to build £1M profit in year one (after losing it all at 26)
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1:10:49Ricky Burns: How to build £1M profit in year one (after losing it all at 26) Ricky Burns made incredible money at 26. Then he drank it all away. Partied it into oblivion. Got hit with a massive VAT bill he couldn't pay. Shut the whole thing down. Most people never recover from that kind of failure. Ricky went back into employment for 10 years. Ran …
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Season 9 | Ep3 Matt Fox achieved a life-changing exit and walked away in 90 days!
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1:37:38Matt Fox achieved a life-changing exit and walked away in 90 days! Matt Fox was 72 hours from a multi-seven-figure exit when COVID killed the deal. What followed: a complete breakdown, 2 years of therapy, and a total rebuild. But he did it differently the second time. Cut from 30 stressed employees to 10 people he loved. Stripped costs. Turned it i…
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Season 9 | Ep2 Nick Hoadley on scaling Insurance Search to 7-figures at 50% plus profit
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1:16:51This week on The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by Nick Hoadley, founder of Insurance Search, a specialist executive search practice in the global insurance market. Nick quit a successful broking career nine years ago and launched a recruitment business with zero agency experience. Since then, he has shifted from 100% contingent to 100% retained, built a …
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Season 9 | Ep1 Samm Green on rebuilding Few & Far towards £1m EBITDA in 2025, despite serious burnout and two years of losses
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1:14:25This week, on episode 1 of season 9 of The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by Samm Green, co-founder of Few & Far, a UK-based product management recruitment business with 22 people and a powerful story of resilience. Samm was the very first guest I ever recorded on The RAG back in 2019, and at that time, he had big plans to scale to 40 staff and eventually…
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Anthony Webster on authenticity, inclusion and leading DVF Recruitment to success
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1:08:48This week on The RAG Podcast, I am revisiting my episode with Anthony Webster, Managing Director of DVF Recruitment and board member at Career Legal. Anthony and I go way back - we worked together for five years and even planned to launch Hoxo together before his journey took a different turn. At that point, Anthony made a life-changing decision: h…
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Laura Clark on taking over OA Group from her mum and leading it into the future
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1:10:16This week on The RAG Podcast, we are revisiting my episode with Laura Clark, CEO of OA Group. Laura’s journey is one of the most unique I’ve ever shared on the show. She grew up watching her mum build Osborne Appointments (now OA Group), joined the business at 19, and earlier this year bought it from her mother to take over as CEO. We talk about: W…
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How Ben Wallin and Dan Cox scaled Edison Smart to 31 staff and expanded globally
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1:10:58This week on The RAG Podcast, I’m revisiting my episode with Ben Wallin and Dan Cox, founders of Edison Smart. When I spoke to them in August 2022, they’d already hit £1.7m revenue and built a team of nearly 20 in just over a year. One year later, they scaled to 31 employees, expanded into the US, put boots on the ground in Dubai, and built a struc…
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Kevin Frater on leading global recruitment growth from 12 to 180 at Frank Group
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1:06:54This week on The RAG Podcast, we are revisiting Episode 1 from Season 7 with Kevin Frater, Director at Stable10 and a recruitment leader with over 18 years of experience across Allegis and Frank Group. Kevin built his reputation as a fixer, turning underperforming offices into high-performing teams. Most notably, he grew a team in Germany from 12 t…
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Joe Jani on growing Metric Search to 90 heads and a private equity deal in six years
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1:05:06This week on The RAG Podcast, I’m revisiting my episode with Joe Jani, founder and CEO of Metric Search, one of the fastest growing recruitment firms in the world. Joe launched Metric in 2019 and in just six years has scaled to 90 heads across the US and UK. At only 31 years old, he’s already closed a private equity deal, taking seven figures off t…
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Jordan Shlosberg on how AI can help you remove admin forever!
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1:29:05This week on The RAG Podcast, I’m revisiting my chat with Jordan Shlosberg, founder of Atlas, the first AI-first CRM built for the recruitment market. Jordan’s no stranger to scale. Before Atlas, he founded Prosapien, growing it to $40 million in revenue in just five years before exiting. He’s now bringing the same disruptive approach to recruitmen…
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Stuart Mitchell on using personal brand to build a seven-figure agency in nine months
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1:03:19This week on The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by Stuart Mitchell, the founder of Hampton North, a specialist cybersecurity search firm based in the US. Stuart launched his business, and in just nine months, he had already surpassed the seven-figure mark. There were no cold calls, no marketing spend, just LinkedIn and a consistent commitment to personal …
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Digital nomad to 60% profit: Chris Redmond on remote success and exit plans
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1:13:10Chris Redmond is back on The RAG for the third time and his story keeps getting better. When I first interviewed Chris in 2019, he’d just gone fully remote and was chasing a digital nomad lifestyle with no fixed office. At the time, I thought he was mad. Then COVID hit, and while the rest of the industry scrambled, Chris and his team were already b…
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Season 8 | Ep41 Season 8 wrap-up: What I’ve learned from 40 founder stories this year
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13:50What I’ve learned from 40 recruitment founder interviews in a year This week’s episode of The RAG is a little different - it’s just me After 40 in-person interviews across the UK, Dubai and Sydney, I wanted to take a moment to reflect on what I’ve learned in season 8 and what’s next for the show. Here’s 3 key learnings that I cover in this solo epi…
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Season 8 | Ep40 Jamie Trevett on going all in on the US and shutting down his UK contracts business
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1:09:08Would you walk away from recurring revenue to chase a bigger opportunity overseas? On this week's episode of The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by Jamie Trevett, founder of Just Construction. Jamie was last on the show in 2022 when his UK construction recruitment firm had 25 staff and a growing contract book. Fast forward to today and Jamie has completely…
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Season 8 | Ep39 Matt Tyson on two life-changing exits and the personal cost of chasing growth
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1:25:30What’s the point in building a business if you lose everything at home? On this week’s episode of The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by Matt Tyson, founder of Knockout Consulting and former owner of two successful payroll companies. Matt has achieved what many founders dream of—two life-changing exits in 15 years. But behind the success was a personal cos…
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Season 8 | Ep38 Dan Grim on what top recruitment talent really wants and why most agencies miss the mark
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1:22:49Why most recruitment businesses fail to attract top-tier leadership talent On this week’s episode of The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by Dan Grim, founder of Inside Recruitment. With 25 years in the industry and two previous equity partnerships under his belt, Dan now runs a solo rec-to-rec firm helping recruitment businesses hire the kind of leadership…
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Season 8 | Ep37 Why Martin Smith spends 90% of his time on what he's best at - BD and brand growth
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1:12:31Most recruitment founders try to do it all and burn out in the process. On this week's episode of The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by Martin Smith, founder of Talent Group, who shares how he's structured his business to double down on what he's best at and handed over the rest. Martin runs TalentDrive and Talent Finance, with a 12-person team across the…
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Season 8 | Ep36 Philippa Smith on losing it all then scaling back to build a £1m+ EBITDA lifestyle agency
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1:15:02What happens when your 15-person agency runs out of cash and you have to start over from scratch? On this week's episode of The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by Philippa Smith, founder of Silver Swan Recruitment, a luxury staffing agency for ultra-high net worth individuals. After growing her team to 15, COVID and poor cash flow caught up with her. In Au…
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Season 8 | Ep35 How Levy Global is scaling post-MBO with a clear vision for growth and legacy
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1:24:40From recruiter to CEO and majority shareholder, Matt Murphy’s journey at Levy Global is nothing short of remarkable. Now, with Rory McGowan joining from Opus as COO, the business is entering what they call "Levy 2.0" - a new chapter focused on scale, structure, and serious wealth creation. On this week's episode of The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by Ma…
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Season 8 | Ep34 Jay Wynter on $1m billing for 7 years straight and leading Precision Sourcing’s largest and highest-performing team
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57:35What does it take to bill over $1 million a year for seven years straight, while leading the highest-performing team in your company? On this week’s episode of The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by Jay Wynter, SAP Practice Lead at Precision Sourcing in Australia. From a tough start in recruitment to becoming a standout performer, Jay has built an elite bi…
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Season 8 | Ep33 Dan Moussa on growth, consulting skills and leading rec forward in the age of AI
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1:02:57What does growth really look like in 2025's recruitment market? For Dan Moussa, it means combining consulting skills, AI adoption and personal branding to move the industry forward. On this week's episode of The RAG Podcast, I'm joined by Dan Moussa, founder of Talesca, a specialist recruitment business in Australia. Dan’s story is one of consisten…
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Season 8 | Ep32 From cleaning to global recruiter - Leon Mitton on scaling with AI at the core
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1:02:48What does it take to go from running a cleaning business to founding a global recruitment firm? Leon Mitton shares how he launched Agnes Cole Consulting during COVID and is now using AI to drive scale and efficiency in a way few are even attempting. On this week's episode of The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by Leon Mitton, founder of Agnes Cole Consulti…
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Season 8 | Ep31 Tom Warner on why he downsized his agency and now prefers building solo at a £500K+ run rate
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41:43What happens when scaling your recruitment business doesn’t bring success, but stress? Tom Warner opens up about the highs and lows of building GroTech and why going solo was the best decision he ever made. On this week's episode of The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by Tom Warner, founder of GroTech, a specialist go-to-market recruitment agency for SaaS …
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Season 8 | Ep30 James Waissel on hitting £300K within 7 months as a rec agency founder
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1:06:08James Waissel set a modest goal of £125K in year 1 of launching his own agency. Instead, he ended up billing over £300K in revenue in just seven months. On this week’s episode of The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by James Waissel, founder and CEO of Huntsman Consult, a construction and real estate recruitment business based in London. James started the b…
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Season 8 | Ep29 Graham Cosgrave on growing MatchMedics by going niche and marketing to doctors worldwide
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1:06:45What happens when you go all-in on a niche? Graham Cosgrave shares how MatchMedics transformed from a traditional agency into one of Ireland’s leading medical recruitment brands by focusing solely on doctors. On this week's episode of The RAG Podcast, I'm joined by Graham Cosgrave, Director at MatchMedics, a recruitment business specialising in pla…
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Season 8 | Ep28 From recruiter to founder at 25: Haseena Mooncey on building a global life sciences business
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1:05:08Starting a recruitment business at 25 with just three years of experience takes serious courage. Haseena Mooncey did exactly that – and she’s built something special. On this week's episode of The RAG Podcast, I'm joined by Haseena Mooncey, co-founder of CHR Life Sciences, a modern boutique recruitment firm focused on niche roles across the UK, Ire…
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Season 8 | Ep27 From refugee to 7-figure founder: Klajdi Bega on building Luminary Group by age 27
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1:09:32From Albanian refugee to running a seven-figure recruitment firm by age 27. On this week's episode of The RAG Podcast, I'm joined by Klajdi Bega, founder and CEO of Luminary Group, a life sciences headhunting firm operating across the UK, Europe, and the US. Born in Albania and raised in North London, Klajdi’s story is one of grit, vision, and rele…
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Season 8 | Ep26 Tom Johnson on securing investment from Lord Sugar and buying back 100% of his recruitment business
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1:02:41What happens when you cold email Lord Sugar asking for investment? Tom Johnson did exactly that…and it worked! On this week's show, I am joined by Tom Johnson, founder of Hernshead Group, a recruitment business he launched six years ago with backing from Lord Alan Sugar after watching The Apprentice. In this episode, Tom shares the full story – fro…
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Season 8 | Ep25 Helen Yarrow on embracing solo entrepreneurship after 30 years in recruitment
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1:13:22What if recruitment agency growth didn’t mean adding headcount? Helen Yarrow has spent over 30 years in recruitment—and for most of it, she felt like she was falling short of the industry’s definition of success. Why? Because she never scaled a big team. Despite launching her business 14 years ago and building a strong reputation in the B2B events …
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Season 8 | Ep24 Tom Essex on losing their niche, and completely rebuilding the agency inside the first five years!
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53:31Founders fall out. Niches get blurred. This is what no one tells you about before you launch your own recruitment agency On this week's show, I am joined by Tom Essex, co-founder of Kigyo Solutions, a recruitment business based in Amsterdam focused on logistics and renewable energy. Tom launched the business in 2020 at the height of the COVID-19 pa…
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Season 8 | Ep23 Marc Cohen on scaling in the US and securing an 8-figure exit!
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1:13:37Marc Cohen scaled his recruitment agency in the US and secured an 8 figure exit. On this week's RAG Podcast, I am joined by Marc, founder of ConSol Partners, who achieved something that 99.9% of recruitment founders will never do. Marc and his co-founder Graeme built their agency with an exit strategy in mind from day 1, navigating economic downtur…
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Season 8 | Ep22 Kyle Winterbottom on how building his brand isn’t just attracting clients—it’s making his business an acquisition target!
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1:00:02Here is a recruitment business that doesn’t rely on outbound sales Kyle Winterbottom has done things a little differently to the rest Kyle and I sat down for this week’s episode of The RAG Podcast to discuss how his business has evolved since he was last on the show in 2022. He’s built a global community of 1,500+ Chief Data Officers, driving all o…
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Season 8 | Ep21 Lloyd Gordon: Merging 2 rec firms with 100+ staff into one unified team
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1:15:39In 2022, Lloyd Gordon had just acquired Cognitive Group, bringing his team to over 100 people. Over the past 3 years, he has had the challenge of successfully integrating the two businesses. On this week’s episode of The RAG Podcast, I am joined for the fourth time by Lloyd, CEO of Focus Cloud Group, and this time we discussed: The challenges of me…
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Season 8 | Ep20 Alex Dick on why 400 recruiters apply to work with his business every week!
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1:23:39Why 400 recruiters apply to work with Alex’s business every single week. On this week's show, I am joined by Alex Dick, founder of Alexander Lyons Solutions. Alex built a £1m legal recruitment desk for nearly a decade before a personal event led him to rethink everything. Now, he’s on a mission to scale with a revolutionary recruitment model – one …
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Season 8 | Ep19 FIFA to Founder: How a 20yr old Harry Portch built HM Staffing by accident
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1:08:36On this week’s episode of The RAG Podcast with Harry Portch, founder of HM Staffing. Harry’s journey is anything but ordinary. He started his business at just 20 years old – almost by accident – while playing FIFA! Now, six years later, he’s built a leading sales and marketing recruitment agency, transitioned to a fully remote model, and became a L…
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Season 8 | Ep18 How 100K LinkedIn followers delivered customers, revenue & an exit strategy
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1:08:28The fastest-growing LinkedIn account I have ever seen in the recruitment industry! This week I sat down with Andrew MacAskill. From launching Executive Career Jump to becoming Chief Commercial Officer at Fraser Dove, Andrew has built a personal brand that’s led to over 105,000 LinkedIn followers, a published book, and global business success. What …
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Season 8 | Ep17 Jordan Shlosberg: Using tech, branding & social selling to drive revenue
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1:07:57Introducing the Top 100 most influential recruiters on LinkedIn... This week, I am re-joined by Jordan Shlosberg, founder of Atlas, for an unmissable episode of The RAG Podcast. Since we last spoke in September, Atlas – the world’s first AI-powered CRM for recruiters – has skyrocketed to nearly £1M ARR in just 9 months! But this episode isn’t just …
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Season 8 | Ep16 James Sanders: 200 employees & 4 brands to selling 50% for £1 to survive!
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1:17:45Some recruitment founder stories end with an exit. This one starts with it falling apart. On this week's episode of The RAG Podcast, I am joined by James Sanders James built PSR Solutions from his bedroom to: £65M turnover 200+ staff Multiple acquisitions 4 specialist brands Then came an unexpected call: £3M due. 7 days to pay. But some key lessons…
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Season 8 | Ep15 From doubt to £1M in 2yrs: How Hemish Ilangaratne built RX Group
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58:52On this week's episode of The RAG Podcast, I am joined by Hemish Ilangaratne, founder of RX Group, a specialist life sciences recruitment agency. In this candid episode, Hemish sheds light on his inspiring journey: From 11 years at S3 Group (where he didn’t close a single deal in the last seven years) to launching RX Group in 2023. Exceeding his mo…
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Season 8 | Ep14 Nick Asbridge on building a £1M AI rec business in 2 years – and working less!
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1:10:44This story is unlike anything I have heard in over 300 episodes of The RAG Podcast. On this week’s episode, I speak with Nick Asbridge, founder of Asobbi, a UK-based AI-focused recruitment company. Nick shares his incredible journey: From 15 years in recruitment to launching Asobbi in January 2023, achieving £1M+ in annual revenue in just two years…
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Season 8 | Ep13 Reflections, resilience & recruitment: my take on 2024 and goals for 2025
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38:37This is exactly what I see happening in the recruitment industry in 2025… This week is a special solo episode of The RAG Podcast, where I reflect on the challenges and lessons from 2024 and share my predictions for 2025. In this episode, I’ll dive into: 📊 Why profit and quality are now prioritised over growth in recruitment. 🤖 How AI and LinkedIn a…
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Season 8 | Ep12 Keith Cronin on life without alcohol: Sobriety and living with purpose
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1:11:15The man who’s helped me live alcohol-free for the past 12 months! On this week's episode of The RAG Podcast, I am joined by Keith Cronin, the founder of Alcohol Free Living. Keith has been my personal coach for the past year and supported me in quitting the booze for a better life. In this honest conversation, he shares his powerful journey from st…
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Season 8 | Ep11 The road to a successful MBO: Lessons from Chris Peace’s £Million exit
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1:08:22What does life look like on the first day after selling your business? In this week’s episode of The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by Chris Peace, founder of Peace Recruitment, a specialist construction and engineering recruitment agency based in Scotland. Chris recently exited his business through a vendor-initiated management buyout (VIMBO) – a unique …
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Season 8 | Ep9 Catherine Roughan on balancing a thriving solo business and parenthood
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1:07:49How to build a thriving solo business while still being the best possible parent: This is Catherine Roughan’s inspiring journey What if success in recruitment wasn’t about scale or exit – but about happiness, balance, and doing it your way? This week on The RAG Podcast, I sit down with Catherine Roughan, founder of Kidmore Recruitment, a specialist…
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Season 8 | Ep8 Joe Jani on building towards a £100M valuation (at just 31!)
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1:05:27What does it take to grow a global recruitment company, secure private equity investment, and aim for a £100M valuation – all by the age of 31? On this week’s The RAG Podcast, I’m sitting down with Joe Jani, founder and CEO of Metric Search, one of the world’s fastest-growing recruitment firms. Here’s what we uncover: 🔥 How Joe scaled Metric Search…
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Season 8 | Ep7 Don’t make this mistake on LinkedIn in 2025
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25:18If you are a recruitment founder planning on spending time and money on LinkedIn next year, then chances are, you’re likely to make this one critical mistake – and it will cost you big time. On this week’s episode of The RAG Podcast, I’m sharing insights from my live talk at the Recruitment Agency Expo in Birmingham. I’m revealing how recruiters ca…
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Season 8 | Ep6 Jim Sloan on how to build a scalable and profitable agency that doesn’t depend on you!
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1:09:19This week on The RAG Podcast, I’m sitting down with Jim Sloan, CEO and founder of Navartis a specialist recruitment agency in the infrastructure sector. Jim’s journey is an incredible story of growth to a team of 110+ across multiple countries and significant profits of £2M EBITDA Here’s what we discuss: 🔑 How Jim started the business as a new bran…
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Season 8 | Ep5 Craig Whiting - On 6 years billing £1.5m per year before learning to “step off the tools”
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1:24:42On this week’s episode of The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by Craig Whiting, founder of RLS Search, who shares his incredible journey from solo billing to building a 15-member team specialising in tech talent for investment management. In this episode, Craig opens up about his transition from running a small operation with his partner—billing £1.5 milli…
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Season 8 | Ep4 Kate Cross on running an agency with her husband and maintaining £500,000 in contract revenue annually for the past 17 years!
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1:05:05Ever wondered what it takes to build a thriving recruitment business with your partner? On this week's episode of The RAG Podcast, Kate Cross joins me to reveal the highs, lows, and secrets to creating sustainable contract revenue while maintaining a successful personal relationship. Kate is co-founder of Harvey Jacob, a construction recruitment ag…
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Season 8 | Ep3 Paul de Rozarieux on going from no recruitment experience to solo founder billing £1m a year!
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1:03:05From no recruitment experience to solo founder billing £1m a year– @Paul de Rozarieux’s Journey in Recruitment This week on The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by an incredible guest, Paul de Rozarieux, founder of Fusion Search. Paul’s story is truly one of a kind. With zero recruitment experience, Paul built his business from scratch, growing it into a se…
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