Every leader has a story to tell. Join The SAFE Leader with Mark McBride-Wright as we uncover the diversity story behind leading figures championing change to make our world a better place. Hear from business leaders, academics, entrepreneurs, and agents of change as they share their journeys of innovation, resilience and transformation. Together, we explore how they embrace the principles of Sharing, Acting, Feeling, and Empowering to create safer, more inclusive environments for everyone.
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Welcome to the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors Podcast, an exclusive podcast series bringing together expert guests to discuss the most pertinent, industry-shaping topics from the world of Chartered Surveying. Every Monday you can expect a vibrant panel discussion covering topics such as new rules of conduct, the future of quantity surveying and the RICS global standard to name a few. Tune in to stay on top of the latest industry trends and changes whilst topping up your skills. Lea ...
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E039: STEM Returners leading the talent comeback with Mark McBride-Wright and Natalie Desty
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55:36Natalie Desty, founder of STEM Returners, joins Mark McBride-Wright to share her inspiring journey of tackling inequality in engineering and creating pathways back into STEM for professionals after career breaks. From leaving a director-level role to launching what many thought was a risky idea, Natalie reveals how she turned personal challenges in…
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Supporting Men’s Mental Health in Construction with Mark McBride Wright, Scott Pearshouse MRICS and Tomi Laguda #210
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41:12Mental health and wellbeing is a key pillar in today’s world, and while it’s historically been more challenging for men in construction to be open, there’s more vital support now than ever before. Tomi Laguda leads a deep and honest discussion on The RICS Podcast this week with Scott Pearshouse MRICS, as he shares his own mental health journey in c…
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Member Profile: Thomas Haithwaite MRICS and Infrastructure in Peru #211
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38:03One of the widest-reaching impacts that can be seen from surveyors’ work is the sustainable growth of global infrastructure. In this episode of the RICS podcast, host Kieran Halliwell is joined by Tom Haithwaite, a surveyor whose work is transforming public infrastructure in Peru. Tom shares his experiences navigating cultural differences, implemen…
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E038: Building Safety and Inclusion in the Nuclear Industry with Mark McBride-Wright and Callum Thomas
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50:12In this episode of The SAFE Leader Podcast, host Mark McBride-Wright sits down with Callum Thomas, founder and CEO of Thomas Thor, a global leader in workforce solutions for the nuclear industry. Callum shares his journey from discovering a lifelong passion for business to dedicating his career to building a diverse and resilient talent pipeline fo…
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Member Profile: Dorothy Natukunda MRICS and Uganda’s Standard Gauge Railway #209
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51:01Every infrastructure project requires the work of a surveyor, and when developing economies and public opportunity this role is akin to that of a ‘silent hero’. In this episode of the RICS Podcast, host Kieran Halliwell is joined by Dorothy Natukunda MRICS, Principal Government Valuer at Uganda’s Ministry of Lands, Housing and Urban Development. Th…
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E037: Learning to Feel and Enjoy the Journey with Mark McBride-Wright and Yosi Kossowsky
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1:00:15In this episode of The SAFE Leader Podcast, Mark McBride-Wright sits down with executive coach and leadership strategist Yosi Kossowsky to explore a remarkable journey of growth and transformation. From starting out with no clear plan, to discovering a passion for computers and technology, Yosi shares the twists and turns that shaped his early care…
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Dear Diary: What Should Be Included For Your APC with Steve Joel-Dicks FRICS, Alicia Styring MRICS and Adam Quinn #208
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46:48From the very start of enrollment to the APC, your APC Diary becomes one of the most vital tools in helping you document your progression. So what should the diary look like by the time you’re ready for assessment? In this episode of The RICS Podcast, Adam Quinn speaks with APC assessors Steve Joel-Dicks FRICS, and Alicia Styring MRICS, to share wh…
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E036: Emotional Leadership and The Power of Vulnerability with Mark McBride-Wright and Randy Lyman
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53:08In this episode of The SAFE Leader Podcast, host Mark McBride-Wright sits down with physicist, entrepreneur and emotional intelligence advocate Randy Lyman. From early success in engineering and business to a profound personal transformation, Randy shares how uncovering and releasing hidden emotional baggage reshaped his approach to leadership and …
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Member Profile: Inoka Withana Gamage MRICS and the Central Interceptor Tunnel #207
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30:43New Zealand’s ‘Central Interceptor Tunnel’ project represents a huge step towards upgrading the territory’s infrastructure for decades to come. Central to its success is this week’s guest on The RICS Podcast, Dr Inoka Withana Gamage MRICS, Principal Contracts and Commercial Manager at Jacobs New Zealand. In this member profile, Inoka talks us throu…
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E035: Winning Hearts, Minds and Market Share with Mark McBride-Wright and Barry LaBov
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52:11In this episode of The SAFE Leader Podcast, Mark McBride-Wright sits down with Barry LaBov, two time Ernst and Young Entrepreneur of the Year, celebrated author, and founder of LaBov and Beyond. From unloading parcels at 3am and chasing dreams in a rock band to building a nationally recognised marketing and communications firm, Barry shares the res…
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Transitioning from Education to Industry: What Are the Challenges? with Matthew Fedigan FRICS, Machel Bogues, Sybil Taunton and Lucy Day #206
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43:44The diverse future of our built environment industry relies on converting a broad university intake into an inclusive community of professionals. In this episode of The RICS Podcast, Machel Bogues heads up a panel with Matthew Fedigan FRICS, Sybil Taunton and Lucy Day. With a breadth of experience and backgrounds, our guests weigh in on the barrier…
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E034: Taking the Leap in Innovation and Leadership with Mark McBride-Wright and Abi Hird
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49:59Abi Hird joins Mark McBride-Wright to share her journey from unexpected career beginnings to becoming a leader in innovation. From early dreams of being an art teacher to navigating academia and industry, Abi speaks candidly about embracing challenges, following opportunities, and finding her place in shaping how organisations think about growth an…
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Member profile: redeveloping the Jewry Wall Museum with Emily Thorpe-Jones MRICS #205
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35:45The Jewry Wall Museum plays a core role in Leicester’s history, and RICS member Emily Thorpe Jones MRICS has been the Project Manager on the it’s revamp since 2022. In this first member profile episode of The RICS Podcast, Emily speaks with Podcast Lead Kieran Dhunna Halliwell to share the complexities behind managing a major heritage conservation …
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E033: Finding Your North Star and Helping People Thrive with Mark McBride-Wright and Francie Jain
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1:08:06In this episode of The SAFE Leader Podcast, Mark McBride-Wright sits down with Francie Jain, Founder and CEO of Terawatt, to explore her journey from Wall Street to wellness and the creation of a platform dedicated to making professional coaching accessible and impactful. Francie shares how her work connects head, heart, and gut to help individuals…
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SME's Developing the Next Generation of Surveyors with Craig MacDonald FRICS, Jodie O'Connor MRICS, Marina Gerogieva MRICS and Callum Saville MRICS #204
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44:03SMEs play a key role in developing the next generation of surveyors for an ever-evolving industry, mentoring them and fostering a culture in which they grow. In this episode of The RICS Podcast, we hear from Craig MacDonald FRICS, Jodie O'Connor MRICS, Marina Gerogieva MRICS and Callum Saville MRICS, as they discuss strategies for bridging the skil…
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E032: Why Strategy Always Comes Before Tactics with Mark McBride-Wright and Angelo Ponzi
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1:08:15In this episode of The SAFE Leader Podcast, host Mark McBride-Wright is joined by Angelo Ponzi, seasoned brand strategist, fractional CMO, and author of The Strategy Blueprint. With over 30 years of experience helping businesses grow through data-driven insights, Angelo shares what it really takes to move from scattered marketing tactics to clear s…
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DRS: Surveyors Using CAP in Contracts with Martin Burns and Jim McCluskey FRICS #203
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43:37The Conflict Avoidance Process is a fast-growing tool in resolving disputes while avoiding the costs of both arbitration and litigation, making it invaluable if used correctly. Two firm advocates heading up the Conflict Avoidance Coalition are RICS’ own Martin Burns, and Kier’s Jim McCluskey FRICS, who discuss how CAP provisions can be integrated i…
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What’s Coming Soon on The RICS Podcast with Kieran Dhunna Halliwell #202
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6:14Welcome back to The RICS Podcast! We enjoy showcasing the work of RICS members on our episodes and in this special update we’re previewing what’s to come in the next few months. Kieran Dhunna Halliwell, the show’s Podcast Lead, shares a brief update on what we’ve published so far, and what’s happening behind the scenes as we prepare for more interv…
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E031: The Human Side of Work with Mark McBride-Wright and Jade Garratt
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56:38What does it really take to create teams that are not only high-performing, but also human-centred and resilient? In this episode, Mark McBride-Wright sits down with Jade Garratt, Director of Education at Psychological Safety, to explore the role of psychological safety in transforming how we work, learn, and lead. Drawing on her background in educ…
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What makes a safe, inclusive work environment for LGBTQ+ professionals? with Sharon Slinger FRICS, Scott Wilkinson FRICS and Mark Bennett AssocRICS #201
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38:05The built environment and construction sectors should be a space for all to feel welcome and to belong, and with June being Pride month it’s an apt time to evaluate how that looks in the industry. In this week’s episode of The RICS Podcast, Sharon Slinger FRICS is joined by Scott Wilkinson FRICS and Mark Bennett AssocRICS to discuss the current atm…
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Surveyors and Their Favourite Projects with Florence Andrews MRICS, Vincent John Harney MRICS & Iona Lennon AssocRICS #200
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50:18Through impactful, engaging and fulfilling projects, surveying continues to provide an incredibly unique career path to those who consider themselves fortunate to be in the profession. In this episode of The RICS Podcast, Florence Andrews MRICS hosts Vincent John Harney MRICS & Iona Lennon AssocRICS in sharing the experiences that make surveying su…
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E030: Building Culture from the Inside Out with Mark McBride-Wright and Linda Carlisle
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54:43In this episode of The SAFE Leader Podcast, Dr. Mark McBride-Wright is joined by Linda Carlisle, a seasoned communications and culture strategist with over 30 years of experience helping organisations navigate moments that matter. From her early career in brand strategy to her deep dive into internal communications, Linda shares powerful insights i…
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Opportunities for equity: effective organisations with RICS Sybil Taunton & UKREiiF’s Nathan Spencer #199
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28:56The built environment industry will be more effective to all if diverse voices are included, which intensifies the very present need for greater equity and inclusion. But, what does this look like in practice? How can organisations contribute to cultivating a more inclusive industry? Nathan Spencer is Director at UKREiiF, and he joins RICS’ Sybil T…
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E029: Free Man from a Black Stream with Mark McBride-Wright and Dr Frank L. Douglas
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53:29In this episode of The SAFE Leader Podcast, Dr Frank L. Douglas shares his remarkable journey from growing up in Guyana to breaking barriers in the global pharmaceutical industry. A distinguished physician, scientist and author, Dr Douglas opens up about the discrimination he faced early in his career and how those experiences shaped his philosophy…
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Surveyors: Character, Competency and Changing Demands with Craig Ross MRICS and Alexandra Faciu MRICS #198
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38:00The demands of a Chartered Surveyor now have evolved since the desired qualities of years past, both in terms of skills & competency, and a surveyor’s character. This week on The RICS Podcast, President of Alexandra Capital, Alexandra Faciu MRICS joins Craig Ross MRICS, who is Associate Director for Safety and Security at Diriyah Company. They dive…
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E028: The Human Side of Engineering with Mark McBride-Wright and Iain McKechnie
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50:43In this episode, Mark McBride-Wright sits down with Iain McKechnie to explore the human side of engineering, where values like safety, care, and inclusion take centre stage. Drawing on years of experience across academia and industry, Iain shares stories of mentorship, bold career shifts, and the importance of designing systems not just for efficie…
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The DNA of Cities with Professor Greg Clark, Dr Caitlin Morrissey and Peter Hogg FRICS #197
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43:13What makes a city is not just its construction, but the culture that thrives within it, and the two walk hand in hand with each other. This week on The RICS Podcast, Professor Greg Clark, Dr Caitlin Morrissey and Peter Hogg FRICS delve into what we mean by the ‘DNA’ of cities, what lies beneath it, and how the built environment complements what alr…
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E027: Leading with Curiosity, Courage and an Authentic Soul with Mark McBride-Wright and Karen Aitchison
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54:33In this episode, I sit down with Karen Aitchison, Global Head of Wellbeing and Partner at ERM, who brings heart, humour and honesty to the centre of the workplace conversation. From tackling imposter syndrome to rethinking how curiosity can drive stronger connections, Karen shares deeply personal insights and practical tools for creating cultures w…
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Neuro-Divergence & The Assessment Process with Dan Knowles FRICS, Morwenna Slade MRICS and Jen Hobart MRICS #196
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1:15:16Neurodiverse professionals in the built environment face unique challenges in the journey to becoming chartered, but with more awareness comes an increasing level of support for such APC candidates. Dan Knowles FRICS hosts this week’s episode of The RICS Podcast, where Morwenna Slade MRICS and Jennifer Hobart MRICS share their experiences with the …
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E026: The Silent Cost of Poor Leadership with Mark McBride-Wright and Adriènne Kelbie
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51:05Adriènne Kelbie CBE joins The SAFE Leader Podcast to unpack the reality of leadership beyond titles and job descriptions. From her early experiences navigating personal hardship to becoming Chief Executive of the UK’s nuclear regulator, Adriènne shares a raw and honest account of what it means to lead with resilience, emotional intelligence, and co…
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A Day in the Life of a Surveyor with Emily Hayden MRICS, David Broschomb MRICS, Millie Mason MRICS and candidate Yusuf Javaid #195
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58:32The world of surveying is diverse, dynamic and engaging every day for the professionals who work within it - aspects which should appeal to the many talented young people looking to join the sector. This week’s episode of The RICS Podcast showcases the journeys, experiences and insights of four fantastic surveying professionals - David Broschomb MR…
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E025: Why Inclusive Leadership Starts With Us with Mark McBride-Wright
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35:10In this special minisode of The SAFE Leader Podcast, host Mark McBride-Wright reflects on the journey so far, sharing personal insights behind the creation of The SAFE Leader framework and the motivations driving his mission. From moving to New York and building new community, to piloting The SAFE Leader Training Course with Rolls-Royce SMR, Mark e…
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The Role of a Facilities Manager in Sustainable Building with Robin Leow FRICS & Greg Davison MRICS #194
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30:26The role of Facilities Managers has shifted in today’s market, which values people, planet and purpose in the provision of sustainable buildings. In this compelling episode of the RICS podcast, Greg Davison MRICS and Robin Leow FRICS dive into the critical role of Facilities Management (FM) in driving sustainable building practices, drawing upon gl…
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E024: Shouting Safety Whispering Health with Mark McBride-Wright and Dame Judith Hackitt
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1:00:06In this episode of The SAFE Leader Podcast, we explore what it truly means to lead with integrity, empathy, and long-term vision. Our guest, Dame Judith Hackitt, shares a compelling personal journey from growing up in a mining village surrounded by industrial risk to becoming a key voice in national safety reform. We discuss how core values should …
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The Surveyors’ Role in Supporting Urban Leadership in Cities with Professor Greg Clark, Tom Webber MRICS and Borane Gille #193
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53:37With a rapid growth of urbanisation in recent years around the world, the role of the surveyor is vital in ensuring we get a positive outcome from urbanisation. In this episode of The RICS Podcast, Professor Greg Clark, Tom Webber MRICS and Bourane Gille discuss the surveyor’s impact on how urbanisation helps cities to grow positively, create oppor…
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E023: Radical Humility Is the Leadership Edge We Need with Mark McBride-Wright and Urs Koenig
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44:04What does it really take to lead with strength and humanity? In this episode of The SAFE Leader Podcast, Mark McBride-Wright is joined by Urs Koenig, UN and NATO peacekeeper, ultra-endurance athlete, executive coach, and bestselling author of Radical Humility. Urs shares his powerful philosophy of being tough on results and tender on people, drawin…
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The Essential Role That Minerals Play in Society & the Built Environment with Barnaby Pilgrim FRICS, Matthew Cuthbert MRICS and Neil Hughes MRICS #192
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52:20If materials can’t be grown, then they need to be mined - the importance of the mineral sector in the built environment is absolutely essential, yet often overlooked. This week’s episode of The RICS Podcast highlights how we can raise the sector’s profile, and attract new professionals to mineral surveying, drawing upon the experiences of host Barn…
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E022: We need more hummingbirds in the world with Mark McBride-Wright and Malcolm Staves
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56:16In this episode of The SAFE Leader Podcast, Mark McBride-Wright sits down with Malcolm Staves, Global Vice President of Health and Safety at L’Oréal, to explore what it means to lead with purpose, care, and conviction. Malcolm shares the story of the hummingbird, a simple but powerful metaphor that has come to define his approach to leadership and …
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Skills for the APC and Beyond with Kate Taylor FRICS, Annabel Huffer MRICS and Abdul Alimi MRICS #191
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49:54Skills are a critical part of the APC assessment, and continue to serve you throughout your career in surveying, but which skills are best to prioritise to succeed in today’s industry? This episode of The RICS Podcast features the fantastic insights of Kate Taylor FRICS, Annabel Huffer MRICS and Abdul Alimi MRICS, drawing on experiences from both s…
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E021: The Power of Speaking Up and Building a Fairer Society with Mark McBride-Wright and Antonio Zappulla
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40:55In this episode of The Safe Leader Podcast, Mark McBride-Wright sits down with Antonio Zappulla, CEO of the Thomson Reuters Foundation, to explore what it really means to lead with purpose in uncertain times. From his early days in a newsroom during 9/11 to navigating the challenges of running a global organisation through COVID-19, Antonio shares …
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How Can Surveyors Navigate the Rise of Flex Space? with Christy Bowen MRICS, Mark Dixon and Will Kinnear MRICS #190
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47:41Flexible workspaces represent a growing need for surveyors to prepare for a wildly changing future of the commercial real estate market. So how can professionals adapt to the uptick in flexible space, and how does the data available to us today help us to understand and value this evolving sector? These questions are at the heart of this week’s epi…
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E020: Building Safer Systems by Asking Better Questions with Mark McBride-Wright and Paulo Oliveira
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1:07:28In this episode of The SAFE Leader Podcast, Mark McBride-Wright sits down with Paulo Oliveira, Vice President of Process Safety Consulting at DEKRA UK, for a powerful and thought-provoking conversation about the evolving world of safety. From his roots in Portugal to leading international safety initiatives, Paulo shares how his journey was shaped …
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E019: This Is Not a Choice, It’s Who I’m Meant to Be with Mark McBride-Wright and Ayo Sokale
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54:03What happens when a seven-year-old sees injustice and decides to change the world? In this powerful episode, Mark McBride-Wright speaks with Ayo Sokale — civil engineer, children's TV presenter, tech founder, and author — about what it means to live life on purpose. From witnessing flooding in Nigeria to protecting thousands of homes through engine…
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The Surveyor’s Role in the Energy Transition with Roger Esson MRICS, Amit Patel MRICS, Jenny Stanning and Stephen Thompson FRICS #189
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41:36The transition to greener energy sources is an ongoing endeavour, and the role that surveyors will play in that transition is a growing one in both importance and impact. Discussing this shift, this week The RICS Podcast welcomes Jenny Stanning, Stephen Thompson FRICS, Amit Patel MRICS and host Roger Esson MRICS to discuss the trends emerging in th…
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E018: Engineering Fire Safety for Everyone with Mark McBride-Wright and Benjamin Ralph
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55:55In this episode of The Safe Leader Podcast, Mark McBride-Wright sits down with Benjamin Ralph, Director at Hollis and a leading voice in building safety and fire engineering. From setting fires in the fields of North Devon as a child (for science!) to influencing national building safety policy, Ben shares his deeply personal and professional journ…
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Regulated Professions: What Can We Learn From Each Other? with Demi Yianni MRICS, Kirsten Hald MRICS and Maria Wiedner MRICS #188
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50:41One of the fantastic elements to surveying is the number of routes into the profession. This week The RICS Podcast showcases three members who began their paths in other regulated professions before becoming surveyors themselves. Demi Yianni is joined this week by Kirsten Hald and Maria Wiedner to discuss their vastly different backgrounds, transfe…
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E017: Building Trust in High Risk Environments with Mark McBride-Wright and Mark Wilson
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48:19In this powerful episode of The Safe Leader Podcast, Mark McBride-Wright sits down with Mark Wilson, HSE and Operations Director at Offshore Energies UK, for an honest and inspiring conversation on leadership, wellbeing, and the ripple effect of positive change. From giving up alcohol and caffeine to rising through the military ranks, from private …
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Industry Challengers: Rethinking Embodied Carbon as an Asset with James Fiske, Betsy Brady MRICS and Ioana Orzea #187
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49:57The MIPIM Challengers initiative creates space for the next generation of professionals to share fresh ideas and new perspectives, and this year’s winners include Betsy Brady MRICS and Ioana Orzea. Betsy & Ioana join James Fiske on this episode of The RICS Podcast to share their approach to rethinking embodied carbon as an asset, how we can educate…
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E016: Pioneering the Future of Safety Engineering with Mark McBride-Wright and Simon Burwood
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44:26In this episode of The SAFE Leader, Mark McBride-Wright speaks with Simon Burwood, Partner at ERM and co-founder of Engineering Safety Consultants. From taking apart his mum’s iron as a curious child to leading cutting-edge safety work across biosafety, renewables, and AI, Simon shares the pivotal moments that shaped his career. He reflects on the …
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Candidate Support: Calming Nerves Before the Final Assessment with Michelle Parkes MRICS #186
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41:10The final assessment can naturally set off nerves for many candidates preparing for their presentations, so this week’s RICS podcast is centred around calming nerves and preparing to perform at your peak. Offering perspectives from the candidate side and as an assessor herself, Michelle Parkes joins Ellie Sainsbury to share strategies to calm nerve…
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