Join global leadership influencer, speaker, and executive coach Marcel Schwantes, along with the world's top business thought leaders, authors, executives, and luminary movers and shakers who share insights, research, and best practices to help you and your organization thrive. Whether you’re aiming to develop better leadership habits, build a high-performing culture, or grow your business through a more human-centered and humane approach, the Love In Action Podcast offers practical steps an ...
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Never waste a good opportunity to learn from a bad boss. Our guests and Subject Matter Experts share their stories about challenging, difficult, and even mean bosses that they have had through their careers. Hosts Sara Best and John Broer explore what happened, what made the relationship difficult, and even the role WE play in our Bosshole experiences. More importantly, we apply some of our insight and analysis around behavioral science and emotional intelligence so that we (and managers lis ...
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Lead The People is your guide to unlocking your true potential as an authentic leader. Hosted by Dr. Matt Poepsel—The Godfather of Talent Optimization—this podcast dives deep into the art and science of what it takes to lead at the next level. With insightful conversations and practical strategies, each episode equips executives, strategic HR pros, and aspiring leaders with the tools it takes to boost performance, inspire teams, and drive meaningful impact. Whether exploring the latest workp ...
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The campfire. school, church, and watercooler all-in-one. It's the earliest form of community; Sitting around a campfire and sharing stories. For generations, it was used to build trust, share knowledge, and inspire others. Welcome to the Virtual Campfire – I'm Tony Martignetti, the Inspired Coach. Here I'll share powerful lessons learned from leaders in their transformation journey. When you see someone on stage: sharing a powerful message, "owning the room" and, having a huge impact in the ...
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One of the most fundamental of human needs is to know that who we are and what we do matter. As leaders in business, we have the unique opportunity to let our team members know that they do. And when they feel valued and cared for at work, they return home and enjoy better relationships with their loved ones, friends, neighbors and others. This world needs Truly Human Leadership. On this podcast, you’ll hear about what it means to be conscious leaders and have a conscious business. You'll he ...
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Marcel Schwantes - Humane Leadership, Transforming Workplace Toxicity
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43:59Marcel Schwantes joins us to share the harrowing experience that inspired his new book "Humane Leadership: Lead with Radical Love, Be a Kick-Ass Boss." In a powerful testament to the physical impact of toxic workplaces, Marcel recounts how workplace stress caused his body to literally shut down—leaving him temporarily paralyzed and unable to walk f…
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#130: Transforming Toxic Management with Marcel Schwantes
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32:43In this conversation, Marcel Schwantes discusses the profound effects of toxic management on personal health and workplace dynamics. He emphasizes the need for humane leadership characterized by empathy, kindness, humility, advocacy, and trust. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding love in leadership and how it can transform org…
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TBC Flashback - Kim Scott and "Radical Candor" (March 2023)
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28:51What if the secret to transforming toxic workplaces wasn't just about removing bad bosses, but teaching good ones how to balance caring deeply with challenging directly? In this profound flashback conversation with Kim Scott, author of "Radical Candor" and "Just Work", we explore the frameworks that can revolutionize workplace dynamics and eliminat…
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Seeing Differently: Visual Thinking Strategies And Human-Centered Dialogue With Dabney Hailey
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40:05What if slowing down and looking carefully could transform how we lead, connect, and collaborate? In this deep and reflective episode, museum educator and Visual Thinking Strategies (VTS) expert Dabney Hailey shares how structured observation and shared dialogue can spark insight across fields—from classrooms and galleries to corporate teams and he…
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Erik Qualman: How to Improve Focus and Productivity in a Digitally Connected World
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25:29Episode recap: Whether you’re a programmer, mother, executive, teacher, or an entrepreneur, this episode is for you if ... 1. You feel like you need five more hours in your day. 2. You are being pulled in a million directions with no end in sight. 3. Your life is BUSY instead of BIG. Erik Qualman, author of "The Focus Project," discussed strategies…
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Your Leadership is Contagious w/ Anese Cavanaugh
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40:01One thing we have consistently believed at Barry-Wehmiller is that everyone can be a leader. Anese Cavanaugh‘s book, Contagious You advances the notion—for good or for bad—that leaders have tremendous power to influence those who follow their example. As Anese says, “The quality of our leadership is based upon our intentions, energy, and presence. …
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#131: Why Being Proactive About Mental Health Changes Everything with Stephen Sokoler
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28:51In this conversation, Stephen Sokoler unpacks the evolving definition of mental health and its impact on the modern workplace. As founder and CEO of Journey, Stephen challenges the outdated, reactive approach to mental well-being and calls for a proactive, daily integration of mental health practices into both our personal and professional lives. H…
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Designing A Joyful Workplace Culture With Bree Groff
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47:28Workplace culture isn’t just about perks and policies—it’s about designing the conditions where people thrive. In this thought-provoking conversation on workplace culture, Bree Groff—author of Today Was Fun and senior advisor at SYPartners—dives into how leaders can craft environments where workdays are more joyful, sustainable, and human. From nav…
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Peter Bregman: Leading with Emotional Courage
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46:54Episode recap: Peter Bregman joined Marcel on the podcast to discuss the themes of emotional courage and leadership in today’s society, exploring how these concepts apply to current challenges around empathy and fear. Peter and Marcel discussed the importance of acknowledging and understanding one’s own shadow side to prevent insidious behavior and…
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What transforms a caring manager into someone their employees fear? According to executive coach Sabina Nawaz, it's not a personality defect—it's pressure. Drawing from her own jarring experience of returning from maternity leave to find herself snapping at her team, Nawaz reveals the hidden forces that push good people into problematic leadership …
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#129: Why Most People Never Reach The Next Level with Jason Feifer
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25:44Why do some people rise while others stay stuck, even though they’re just as talented? In this episode, we sit down with Jason Feifer, editor-in-chief of Entrepreneur Magazine and host of the Problem Solvers podcast, to uncover why most people unconsciously sabotage their own growth — and how to stop. This conversation is packed with insights for a…
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Almost ten years ago, our CEO, Bob Chapman’s book, Everybody Matters was released. It is a documentation of the lessons Bob and Barry-Wehmiller have learned along our journey. Among the most important insights we gained: Everybody wants to know that who they are and what they do matters. Mattering is a term that is getting more and more attention l…
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TBC Flashback - Jason Lauritsen: The Check-in Method™ (Oct 2022)
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41:53Are your management practices stuck in the 1800s? They might be if you're still operating with conventional management approaches. In this eye-opening episode, Jason Lauritsen reveals why so many workplaces struggle with engagement, retention, and performance — our management methods were designed during the industrial revolution to make humans beh…
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Caroline Fleck: How Validation Will Transform Your Relationships
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57:31Episode recap: This week’s guest is psychologist and author Dr. Caroline Fleck. Our conversation focused on the concept of validation as a leadership tool, exploring its importance in building connections, resolving conflicts, and fostering emotional well-being in both personal and professional settings. Dr. Fleck shared her experiences and insight…
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#128: How AI + Human Decision Making Beats AI Alone when Hiring with Scott Parish
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29:25Scott Parish is the founder and CEO of HireGuide. Before that, he helped build LinkedIn Jobs & ATS. In this episode, Matt sits down with Scott to explore how AI is revolutionizing the hiring process. Scott introduces a game-changing concept: shifting focus from "quality of hire" to "quality of hiring decision" - and explains why this distinction co…
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GoDaddy’s Solution to Employee Engagement, in Partnership with Achievers
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37:33Episode recap: Today’s show focused on workforce transformation and employee engagement, featuring lively discussions with Kristian Gaetano from Achievers and Janelle Jordan from GoDaddy. They explored the importance of recognition in driving employee engagement, the impact of AI-powered recognition tools on organizational culture, and strategies f…
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Reference Profile Series: The Adapter Manager
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22:02Ever wondered about those colleagues who seem to change their approach depending on the situation? The ones who are harder to pin down, yet somehow able to work effectively with almost anyone? Our latest episode dives deep into the mysterious world of the Adapter Reference Profile. Click HERE for a short video about the Adapter. Click HERE to get y…
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Empowering Employees Through Soul Health Innovations With Pam Buchanan
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40:17Soul health innovations are transforming workplaces by tapping into the often-overlooked aspect of sensory experiences, and in this enlightening episode, we welcome Pam Buchanan, the visionary founder of Quantum Sense. Pam is dedicated to simplifying complex concepts and bringing "soul health" to the masses. She collaborates with experts across var…
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Bob Chapman at the 2017 Aspen Ideas Festival
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35:12Over the last few years, Bob Chapman has been honored to present the message of Truly Human Leadership to more and more audiences. Whether to a group of manufacturing executives, city government leaders, business students, human resources professionals, and countless others, the goal remains the same. Bob wants people to understand that the way we …
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Marcel Schwantes: How to Lead, Live and Work in Congruence
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18:51Episode recap: Marcel highlights a growing trend of executives seeking coaching to align inner beliefs with outer success. He outlines steps to achieve congruence and invites listeners to explore congruence coaching—focused on inner alignment and purposeful leadership. A free discovery call is available for those wanting to lead from their core val…
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#127: How Asking for Help Transforms Teams and Results with Dr. Rosie Ward
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28:31Dr. Rosie Ward is a fierce advocate for humanity who is sought-after to help rehumanize workplaces that free, fuel, and inspire people to bring their best selves to work and home each day. She serves as CEO and Founder of Salveo Partners, which was awarded the 2024 Stellar Business Award for best business consulting in the United States, and focuse…
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TBC Flashback - "Head, Heart, and Briefcase" (Sept '21)
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24:14Ever wonder why someone with a stellar resume struggles in their new role? Or why another employee with modest credentials becomes your top performer? The answer lies in understanding that people are more than their professional history. The Bosshole Chronicles takes you on a journey through the powerful "Head, Heart, and Briefcase" model—a framewo…
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Tony Martignetti: Campfire Lessons for Leaders
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36:50Episode Recap: Tony Martignetti, a popular leadership coach, author and podcaster extraordinaire, joined Marcel to talk about his leadership journey. Tony talked about his book "Campfire Lessons for Leaders," exploring leadership topics such as curiosity, creativity, finding your purpose and embracing emotional courage. Both guest and host shared t…
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#126: Leadership Lessons From California Pizza Kitchen with Shannon Kirk
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23:30Currently serving as the Chief People Officer at California Pizza Kitchen, Shannon is an experienced HR executive with over 20 years in the hospitality and tech industries. Known for driving change, fostering resiliency, and spearheading innovations through a people-centric approach, she has a proven track record of enhancing organizational culture…
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Monica Challingsworth - Pickleballs & People Skills: A Founder's Journey
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36:57Monica Challingsworth takes us behind the scenes of her entrepreneurial journey, revealing how conscious leadership principles transformed her hospitality career and led to the founding of multiple thriving businesses. With remarkable candor, she shares her path from college graduate to founder of Eustress and Demeter restaurant consulting and co-c…
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The Power Of Love In Action: How Humane Leadership Transforms Workplaces With Marcel Schwantes
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39:23What if love was the secret to thriving workplaces? In a world often focused on bottom lines and short-term gains, acclaimed executive coach and author Marcel Schwantes invites us to explore the transformative power of humane leadership. In this episode, we dive into his insights from his book, Humane Leadership, and his popular Love In Action Podc…
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The term "influencer" has really become a marketing term. It's a job. People are paid on social media to influence behavior, usually toward certain products. But there are real influencers in our lives -- intentional or unintentional -- that have a much greater effect on our behaviors, in positive or negative ways. We've long held at Barry-Wehmille…
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Sabina Nawaz: Becoming the Manager Others Need
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46:04Episode Recap: In this episode, we dive into Sabina Nawaz's new book You’re the Boss: Becoming the Manager You Want to Be (and Others Need), which offers fresh insights for managers looking to thrive in today’s high-pressure world. Nawaz, a global C-suite coach, shares her 20+ years of experience coaching top executives at companies like Amazon, Mi…
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#125: Why Most New Managers Struggle (and how to set them up for success) with Ashley Herd
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29:20Ashley Herd is the founder of Manager Method, a business focused on empowering managers with practical tools to lead effectively. With a background as a General Counsel and Head of HR, Ashley has a unique perspective on balancing legal considerations with people management. She's passionate about making leadership development accessible and impactf…
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Your Might Be a Bosshole® IF: You Use Sarcasm and Shaming as Management Techniques
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10:24Ever witnessed a manager publicly humiliate a colleague and felt that collective cringe spread through the room? The latest Bosshole® Chronicles episode tackles the destructive impact of sarcasm and public embarrassment in the workplace—common leadership behaviors that instantly qualify someone as a "Bosshole." HERE ARE MORE RESOURCES FROM REAL GOO…
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Elina Teboul: The Power of Feminine Intelligence
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1:09:03Episode recap: Elina Teboul joined Marcel to discuss her groundbreaking work, as featured in her new book, Feminine Intelligence. Teboul reveals how feminine intelligence is the key to running some of the world's most successful companies ― with greater joy, authenticity, purpose and profit. Drawing on exclusive interviews with billionaire philanth…
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The Beauty Of Business Artistry With Nir Hindie
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40:53A business cannot thrive if it is solely focused on earning and profit and tosses artistic thinking to the sidelines. Only those who understand the beauty of business artistry can unlock today’s greatest opportunities. In this conversation, Tony Martignetti explores the fusion of business strategy with creativity and human connection with Nir Hindi…
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#124: Maintain Human Connection While Leveraging Technology with Naomi Titleman
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23:26Naomi Titleman Colla is Co-Founder of future foHRward Inc. (futurefoHRward.com), whose mission is to empower Human Resources (HR), and all leaders of the future to make work better through their weekly newsletter (foHRsight), podcast (the foHRsight podcast), and private community for Sr. HR Leaders (foHRsight+). Naomi is also Founder of Collaborati…
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Jonelle Massey - The Miseducation of Empathy
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34:06The modern mental health conversation has taken a concerning turn, according to clinical therapist Jonelle Massey. Rather than building resilience, we've defined wellbeing as the absence of discomfort and the avoidance of challenges—a definition that ultimately leaves us ill-equipped for life's inevitable difficulties. Drawing from her experiences …
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Self-Leadership And The Human Side Of Work With Laurie Ruettimann
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44:27Self-leadership is more than a buzzword—it’s a radical act of reclaiming your voice, values, and well-being in a system that often asks you to check them at the door. In this episode, Tony Martignetti sits down with Laurie Ruettimann—acclaimed author, speaker, and host of the Punk Rock HR podcast—to talk about her evolution from burned-out HR execu…
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Deborah Coviello: A CEO’s Compass to Get Back on Track
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47:38Episode recap: Known as The Drop In CEO™, Deborah Coviello, a respected leadership consultant, joined Marcel to discuss her journey of self-discovery that led her to write her seminal book, The CEO’s Compass. She emphasized the importance of peace of mind, humility, and investing in mentoring and coaching programs to develop essential skills. Guest…
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#123: How to Overcome Fear and Live More Courageously with Dr. Mary Poffenroth
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38:47Dr. Mary Poffenroth is a scientist, professor, and fear/courage researcher. From being adopted at birth to being a first generation college student to her first day at NASA and beyond, Mary has dedicated her life to understanding how best to do scary things. Her work has been featured in Forbes, TIME, Science, TED, Entrepreneur, Cosmopolitan, the W…
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A Truly Human Approach to Service and Language, Metlife and Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute
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44:52Here’s something our CEO Bob Chapman recently wrote in a post on our Truly Human Leadership blog: The people our leaders lead, they do not “report to” that leader, they are within that leader’s span of care. Just that simple deviation from the normal way of phrasing things completely changes the dynamic of the relationship. Per a Google search, the…
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Honoring the Fallen: America's Memorial Day Legacy
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14:38Freedom isn't free. This simple yet profound truth anchors our special Memorial Day episode as we explore the origins, evolution, and significance of this solemn American holiday that honors those who made the ultimate sacrifice for our nation. Did you know that approximately 43% of Americans, primarily younger generations, don't fully understand M…
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Scaling Culture on a Global Level with BW Chief People Officer, Rhonda Spencer
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50:43Barry-Wehmiller's Chief People Officer, Rhonda Spencer, was recently recognized by the St. Louis Business Journal in their 2025 HR Awards for Innovation in HR. This was a long overdue recognition of Rhonda’s leadership, but also the work of the BW Global People Team and everthing they've done to help all of our people, all over the world, feel like…
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Marcel Schwantes: A Look at the Science and Best Practices of Leading with Empathy
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9:39Episode recap: Marcel discusses the concept of kindness in leadership, focusing on empathetic interactions as one of two types of kindness that work well in the leadership trenches, backed by science. He explains that kindness can spread throughout an organization, creating a more civil work atmosphere. Marcel presents five practical ways to practi…
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#122: How To Make Workplaces More Equitable with Lisa Gelobter
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27:27Lisa Gelobter is the CEO and Founder of tEQuitable. Using technology to make workplaces more equitable, tEQuitable provides an independent, confidential platform that makes it easy for companies to improve psychological safety and employee engagement, resolve workplace conflict (including micro-inequities), and uncover camouflaged systemic issues b…
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Stand On Your Square: Why Leadership Clarity Matters
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19:59Clarity isn't just a leadership buzzword—it's the difference between victory and defeat. In this continuation of leadership lessons from Gettysburg, host John Broer unpacks how ambiguous communication can derail even the most talented teams. Drawing parallels between Robert E. Lee's fateful directive to General Richard Ewell in 1863 and modern work…
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The Power Of Not Knowing: Embracing Uncertainty For A More Insightful Life With Maggie Jackson
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45:09What if not knowing was your greatest strength? In a world that worships certainty and quick answers, award-winning author and journalist Maggie Jackson invites us to pause and consider the power of uncertainty. In this episode, we dive into her acclaimed book Uncertain: The Wisdom and Wonder of Being Unsure—a bold and timely exploration of how emb…
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Jeff Wetzler: An Actionable Guide to Unlocking Learning and Personal Growth
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46:24Episode recap: This week Marcel sits down with Dr. Jeff Wetzler, author of Ask: Tap Into the Hidden Wisdom of People Around You for Unexpected Breakthroughs In Leadership and Life. In this enlightening conversation, Marcel and Jeff discussed the importance of asking the right questions and being curious in leadership and life. Jeff introduces a pow…
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#121: How to Identify, Prevent, and Recover from Workplace Burnout with Rachel Boehm
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32:36Rachel Boehm is a leading authority on burnout prevention, workplace stress and sustainable high performance. She empowers decision-makers to protect themselves and their teams against the costs of burnout which can be in the tens of thousands per employee. Her services include leadership coaching, team training, and culture change initiatives, ult…
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Dr. Veronica Motley - Patience, Perseverance, and the Power of Mentorship
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37:55Dr. Veronica Motley brings 35+ years of educational leadership wisdom to this powerful conversation about what truly makes leaders successful. Her journey from task-oriented manager to inspirational leader offers profound insights for anyone looking to elevate their leadership impact. HERE ARE MORE RESOURCES FROM REAL GOOD VENTURES: Never miss a go…
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Leading with Love: What Business Can Learn from Ancient Spiritual Traditions
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8:34Episode recap: Marcel discussed his new book, Humane Leadership and the spiritual/religious background of his principles of love and action, which he developed after experiencing poor management at a hospital. He emphasized the importance of leaders caring for their employees and shared research on how principles and practices from ancient religiou…
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Intuition Unveiled: On Harnessing Inner Wisdom In Uncertain Times With Hrund Gunnsteinsdóttir
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45:25Intuition, that inner knowing that guides us beyond logic, is the key to navigating life's complexities and making impactful decisions. In this episode, we're honored to welcome Hrund Gunnsteinsdóttir, Icelandic thought leader, author of InnSaei: Icelandic Wisdom for Turbulent Times, and co-director of the documentary film "InnSaei: The Power of In…
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Siri Chilazi: Building a Fair Workplace for Everyone to Succeed
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1:05:54Episode recap: Today’s guest is Siri Chilazi, a leading gender expert, Harvard researcher, and co-author of Make Work Fair: Data-Driven Design for Real Results. Marcel and Siri discussed gender equity in the workplace, highlighting progress made and challenges that remain in achieving fairness for all employees. They explored strategies for impleme…
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