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Buckle up, fellow humans! Forget what you've heard about Millennials trying to ruin the world – we're just out here trying to survive it, one meme at a time. Jump into the millennial madness with your seasoned guides, Josh Gunderson, Nina Sabettini, and Meg Stone, the Elder Millennials who've mastered the art of adulting with a side of laughter and a well-deserved bottle of wine. From navigating the wild landscape of technology to tackling the ups and downs of modern relationships, The Mille ...
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Org Design Podcast

Amy Springer, Tim Brewer, Damian Bramanis

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Leaders share real stories from organizational (org) design, workforce transformation, and managing structure change. We highlight the challenges and breakthroughs seen first hand helping organizations become places people love. This is for any leader who is creating organizations of the future. Join host Amy Springer and the co-founders of Functionly, Tim Brewer and Damian Bramanis, on their quest to make work work better.
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Live from Milan at the European Organization Design Forum (EODF), Tim Brewer and Damian Bramanis sit down with Anissa Oukhiar — EODF Chair, trustee, and host of Brown, Brainy and Beautiful.Anissa shares her unconventional journey into org design, from a multi-disciplinary academic path to finding her place in a collaborative consultancy, and ultima…
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In this episode, Amy Springer and Tim Brewer are joined by Josh Epperson, Senior Manager of Organizational Development at Amazon. Josh shares a refreshingly honest, thought-provoking journey from play-based therapy with children to shaping strategy, structure, and systems at one of the world’s largest companies.This conversation explores how org de…
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In this candid and compelling episode of the Org Design Podcast, recorded live at the Festival of Org Design 2024, hosts Tim Brewer and Damian Bramanis sit down with Haris Ahmed, founder of Pragmatium Consulting Group, to uncover three decades of wisdom in organizational transformation.Haris shares how he stumbled into org design during the Y2K era…
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What if the real problem in your organization isn’t your people—but your structure?In this episode of the Org Design Podcast, Erika Jacobi, Ph.D., Founder and MD of LC Global Consulting, joins Amy Springer and Damian Bramanis to unpack why structure drives behavior—and how most organizations are solving symptoms, not root causes.Erika shares insigh…
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In this episode recorded live at EODF 2024 in Milan, we sit down with David Plink, CEO of the Top Employers Institute, for a raw and inspiring conversation on what it really takes to lead lasting organizational change.Hosted by Tim Brewer and Damian Bramanis, David reflects on his 16-year journey leading a global certification body across 30+ natio…
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In this episode of the Org Design Podcast, hosts Amy Springer and Tim Brewer welcome Ariana Poirier, a seasoned Change Strategist and consultant. Ariana shares her journey into the world of organizational design, emphasizing the importance of understanding and managing change within organizations. She discusses the challenges leaders face when impl…
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In this episode of the Org Design Podcast, hosts Amy Springer and Damian chatted with Lisa Taylor from Taylor Stein Consulting (L.T. Consulting), who shares her unexpected journey into the world of organizational design. Starting with a background in music and a series of adventures that led her to teach English in Taiwan, Lisa discusses her transi…
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In this **bonus** episode of the Org Design Podcast, host Amy Springer welcomes James Davis from The TSP Advisory to discuss the evolving roles and responsibilities within the Technology Services industry. James shares insights on the transformation of Managed Services Providers (MSPs), Systems Integrators (SIs), and Value Added Resellers (VARs) as…
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In this episode of the Org Design Podcast, Tim Brewer and Amy Springer welcome Andreas Wenger, a partner at Transforma Consulting, to discuss the intricacies of organizational design. Andreas shares his journey into the field, highlighting how his academic background in organization science laid the foundation for his practical consulting experienc…
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In this episode of the Org Design Podcast, hosts Tim Brewer and Damian Bramanis welcome Liz Ferguson from Wiley's research publishing group. Liz shares her journey into organizational design, which began unexpectedly as she took on a new leadership role managing a large team. Faced with the challenge of restructuring to better align with industry c…
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Send us a text In this episode of the Org Design Podcast, we sit down with Carlos Valdes-Dapena, a seasoned expert in organizational design and development. Carlos shares his insights on the evolving nature of organizational structures, the importance of adaptability in leadership, and the human aspects of organizational change. Carlos discusses th…
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In this episode of the Org Design Podcast, host Tim Brewer welcomes Herman Vantrappen, a seasoned management consultant and author, to discuss the intricacies of organizational design. Herman shares his journey into the field, beginning with his early experiences in management consulting at Arthur D. Little. He emphasizes the importance of having a…
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In this episode of the Org Design Podcast, hosts Tim Brewer and Amy Springer welcome Abby Allen, an organizational development practitioner with over 20 years of experience. Abby shares her insights on the evolving nature of organizational design, emphasizing the importance of understanding both people and systems in order to foster effective colla…
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In this insightful episode of the Org Design Podcast, Amy Springer and Rory Mustan from Functionly are joined by Nicole Gee from Geenius Consulting to explore the nuanced journey of organizational design.Nicole candidly shares her early struggles in org design, emphasizing the pivotal role of confidence and clarity. She highlights that successful o…
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Join us on the Org Design Podcast as we dive into a captivating conversation with Ramona Elena Curciu, Head of Coherence, live from the EODF conference in Milan. In this episode, we explore the essence of org design, the journey from personal challenges to professional triumphs, and the importance of approaching organizational change with humility …
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In this episode of the Org Design Podcast, hosts Tim Brewer and Amy Springer welcome Amri B. Johnson from Inclusion Wins. Amri shares his journey into organizational design, revealing how his background as an epidemiologist shaped his understanding of leadership and management. He discusses the importance of creating organizational structures that …
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In this episode of the Org Design Podcast, Tim Brewer and Amy Springer sit down with Dallin Whitfield, a volunteer at the Org Design Festival and an expert in organizational design. Dallin shares his unconventional journey from aspiring lawyer to becoming an organization design consultant, highlighting the importance of understanding systems and pe…
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Join us on the Org Design Podcast as we dive into the fascinating journey of Beth Gunderson in our episode, From Science to Strategy: Effective Org Design with Beth Gunderson. Beth, a key figure at the University of Southern California's Center for Effective Organizations, shares her unique path from material science to becoming an influential org …
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In this conversation, Jardena London—an Agile practitioner and author—discusses the concept of creating “soulful” organizations. Drawing on her background in software development, Jardena noticed that the real challenges weren’t purely technical; instead, they stemmed from how people and teams work together.She highlights three core conditions for …
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In this episode of the Org Design Podcast, host Amy Springer engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Pallavi Srivastava, an associate partner at The OrgSmith. They explore the often misunderstood concept of organizational design, emphasizing its importance beyond mere restructuring and cost-cutting measures. Pallavi shares insights on the …
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In this episode of the Org Design Podcast, the hosts chat with David Henzel, the founder of Love Not Fear and an accomplished entrepreneur with a diverse portfolio of businesses.David shares his journey from being a recovering introvert to a successful leader, emphasizing the transformative power of making decisions out of love rather than fear. He…
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Send us a text In this episode of the Org Design Podcast, we're joined by Elizabeth Venter and Ross Libby to explore the human side of organizational change. Our guests share invaluable insights on how to implement structural changes while keeping people at the heart of the transformation process. Key discussion points include: The importance of in…
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In this episode of the Org Design Podcast, organizational design expert Jodie Goulden shares valuable insights on leadership transitions and organizational effectiveness. She discusses the concept, shared by Beth Gunderson at the 2024 ODF conference, the challenges leaders face when moving from operational roles (& the dance floor) to strategic pos…
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Send us a text In this episode of the Org Design Podcast, Vinisha Rathod, founder of P3 Studios (People, Partnerships, Purpose), shares her expertise on organizational scaling and leadership development. She introduces her framework of "Five Hindrances to Scaling" which includes focus, family, financials, feedback receptiveness, and funnel efficien…
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Send us a text In this episode of the Org Design Podcast, Lisa Cooper, an experienced organizational design consultant, shares valuable insights on building effective organizational structures. Key takeaways include: The importance of designing structures for the business rather than for specific individuals The need to consider future goals when c…
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In this episode of the Org Design Podcast, Brandon Curry shares insights on organizational design and leadership. Key points include:- The importance of understanding roles and their interrelations in an organization- Recognizing resistance as a sign of engagement and progress in organizational change- The value of specific questions and conversati…
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In this episode of the Org Design Podcast, host Tim Brewer interviews Alix Prassis, an organizational design expert and founder of Culture Elevation Consulting. Alix shares her unique journey into org design, from growing up in a family business to her diverse experiences in HR, learning and engagement, and DEI roles. She discusses the importance o…
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In this episode of the Org Design Podcast, Cynthia Escamilla, an experienced organizational design consultant, shares insights on effective org design practices. She emphasizes the importance of looking at the bigger picture when addressing organizational issues, rather than just changing roles or people. Cynthia advises leaders to focus on strateg…
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In this episode from the Org Design Festival, experts Joemmy Ramirez and Mary Selden, join Podcast hosts Tim Brewer and Amy Springer, explore the art and science of developing effective organizational design functions within large organizations. They discuss unconventional career paths and innovative approaches to modern organizational challenges, …
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In this podcast, Tim Brewer, Amy Springer, and Steve Garcia explore the evolving landscape of organizational design. Steve, who began consulting in 2005, emphasizes that org design encompasses more than just structure, including processes, culture, and informal networks.Steve highlights how rapid technological changes, particularly AI, are making t…
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Kiersten Rippeteau discusses her journey into organizational design, starting from internal consulting in healthcare to external consulting in the construction industry. She emphasizes the importance of understanding organizational systems and human behaviors. Rippeteau highlights the need for clear strategy, values, and effective communication wit…
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Gary Cohen, owner of Practical Agility, discusses his journey from software development to organizational design, emphasizing the importance of aligning incentives, fostering cross-functional collaboration, and focusing on customer outcomes. He highlights the need for continuous product discovery and learning to improve efficiency and effectiveness…
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In this thought-provoking episode of The Millennial Agenda, we dive into the complex and often unsettling landscape of American politics, focusing on the looming 2024 election. Our discussion centers around the shocking news of the attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump, examining its broader implications for political discourse a…
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In this chaotic and hilarious episode of The Millennial Agenda, Josh raises the question we've all been wondering: what happened to the murder clowns from 2016? Join Josh, Meg, and Nina as they dive deep into the eerie mysteries of the reappearing monoliths, the possibility of alien encounters, and the chilling tales of serial killers lurking in th…
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In this Org Design Podcast episode from the Organizational Design Festival 2024, Chris Worley shares his fascinating journey in organizational design. We explore the common signs of org design issues, the importance of strategy in effective org design, and the challenges of power and politics in implementation. Chris emphasizes the significance of …
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In this week’s episode of The Millennial Agenda, the trio dives back into the world of reboots, sparked by the news that The NeverEnding Story is set to be remade. As usual, Josh falls down a rabbit hole and uncovers a Korean film called Never Ending Story, which hilariously derails the entire conversation. But that’s not all! It’s Josh’s turn for …
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Send us a text In the latest episode of the Org Design Podcast, hosts Tim Brewer and Amy Springer welcome Shubha Narayanan, a partner at OrgSmith, to discuss all things organization design and workforce transformation. Shubha shares her insights on the evolving role of org design, emphasizing the importance of solving problems through people and pr…
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Join us for a whirlwind of topics in the latest episode of The Millennial Agenda! This week, Josh shares exciting details about his new book, Where the Light Goes, a psychological horror thriller now available on WattPad. Dive into the eerie tale with a new chapter released every week. The trio takes a nostalgic trip back to elementary school days,…
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Paul Tolchinsky discusses his journey into organizational design, emphasizing the importance of human interaction and systemic thinking over traditional hierarchical structures. He highlights the need for leaders to embrace resistance, engage with employees at all levels, and create adaptive, responsive systems. Tolchinsky advocates for leaders to …
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Get ready for a fun-filled episode of The Millennial Agenda! This week, Meg shares hilarious and surprising stories from her trip to Ireland, including the shocking revelation that she's been drinking Guinness wrong her entire life. But the adventure doesn't stop there. Meg and Josh dive into their exciting plans for an Alaskan cruise in 2025 to ce…
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In this unexpected bonus episode of The Millennial Agenda, chaos reigns as Meg faces equipment troubles just as we were settling in to record. Despite the technical glitches, the content was simply too entertaining not to share! Get ready for a mid-week treat that's as unhinged as it is hilarious. Please note that due to the equipment issues, Meg's…
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In this hilarious and candid episode of The Millennial Agenda, Josh reveals why he might be responsible for Justin Timberlake's recent arrest! Over the weekend, Josh attended Timberlake's "Forget Tomorrow World Tour" show in Tampa, FL, and he's got a lot to say about it—spoiler alert: he wasn't impressed in the slightest. Join Josh, Meg, and Nina a…
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Send us a text Drew Sechrist, CEO of Connect the Dots, discusses the challenges of organizational design and the importance of empathy in leadership. He shares his experience of having to lay off 20% of his company, emphasizing the importance of clear communication and support for affected team members. Sechrist also highlights the benefits of havi…
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In this delightful episode of The Millennial Agenda, the trio dives into the sweet world of desserts! Josh, despite his passion for cooking and baking, reveals his deep-seated fear of making pies. He unpacks this fear, tracing it back to his childhood and the intense holiday baking sessions with his mom. Will he conquer his pie phobia, or will the …
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Get ready for a whirlwind of nostalgia, hilarity, and a touch of trauma as Josh, Meg, and Nina dive into the latest episode of The Millennial Agenda! Here's what's on the agenda: Reunited and It Feels So... Old? 🎉 Josh and Nina reunite in person, only for Josh to face the harsh reality of getting older. Spoiler: it involves creaky knees and a lot o…
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Get ready for a messy, laugh-out-loud episode of The Millennial Agenda! In Episode 22, Josh, Meg, and Nina take you on a wild ride through the hilarious and sometimes gross realities of cleaning up after nasty humans at work. From the most cringe-worthy messes to side-splitting job stories, this episode has it all. Join the trio as they: Share outr…
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What happens when three absolutely exhausted millennials come together to record a podcast? Absolute chaos. In this episode, we bring you a whirlwind of topics that will make you laugh, cringe, and question our sanity: Nina's Disney Excitement: Nina shares her excitement for Tiana's Bayou Adventure opening at Walt Disney World just in time for her …
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In Episode 20 of The Millennial Agenda, Josh enthusiastically brings Meg and Nina into a lively discussion about Taylor Swift's latest album, The Tortured Poets Department. Dive into the analysis of this new addition to The Eras Tour setlist and hear about the incredible performances that have left fans in awe. From lyrical genius to stage magic, w…
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The conversation surrounding "The Traitors" continues in Episode 19 of The Millennial Agenda! After delving deep into the world of reality TV in our previous episode, we realized there was still so much more to discuss. Join Josh, Meg, and Nina as they share all the extra conversations and insights that couldn't fit into the last episode. 💬 Extende…
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In a shocking turn of events, Josh and Meg surprise Nina with an unexpected confession in Episode 18 of The Millennial Agenda: they've been watching reality TV! With the help of traitor Christian de la Torre, Josh and Meg reveal their newfound obsession with "The Traitors" to an unsuspecting Nina. 📺 Diving into Reality TV:Join us as the trio delves…
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