Presented by Emo’s Not Dead. Sean Smith, frontman of recently-reunited Welsh gold-selling emo rock band The Blackout, and Morgan Richards, international music journalist, team up to bring you a podcast full of exclusive insight, chaos and laughter, with star studded guests from every corner of entertainment. Take a look behind the scenes with your favourite musicians, wrestlers, comedians, drag queens, actors, industry names and more! Find out Sappenin’ this week. New episodes available ever ...
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Growth In Reverse is the must-listen podcast for anyone serious about growing an email list and turning a newsletter into a thriving business. Hosted by Chenell Basilio and Dylan Redekop, two leading voices in the newsletter space, this show pulls back the curtain on how today’s top newsletter operators actually grow and make money. Episodes include deep-dive teardowns of the strategies behind the most successful newsletters. You’ll hear how creators like Justin Welsh, Codie Sanchez, Sahil B ...
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Ever heard of Slash? Lzzy Hale? While She Sleeps? Of course you have. The Marshall Podcast is hosted by Dan P. Carter and features exclusive interviews with the greatest names in guitar music. We’ve got tales from on tour, album anecdotes, rig setups and playing tips from people who have rocked stages all around the globe. Catch us on all good podcast platforms and on Marshall.com/podcast.
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Lessons From Building a $100M Newsletter Empire—with Sean Griffey of Industry Dive
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51:02The Growth Vault is LIVE: Chenell's brand-new offer for newsletter creators is here—filled with newsletter templates, growth strategies, and real examples you can implement at your own pace. -------------------------------------- “Organic needs to be your biggest channel if you want a real audience that feels connected to you.” — Sean Griffey, Indu…
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EP. 362 - Kayleigh Goldsworthy | Violin, Solo Music and My Chemical Romance: 'Long Live The Black Parade' Tour
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1:22:22Learning To Be Happy. Solo artist, hired violinist and touring member for The Black Parade, Kayleigh Goldsworthy, is our guest on Episode 362 of Sappenin' Podcast! After finding herself with a unique lore on the alternative scene, the multi-instrumentalist exclusively pulls back the curtain on collaborating with all our favourite emos, new music pl…
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How To Save Time While Doing More: Automations with Joe Casabona
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55:48The Growth Vault is LIVE: Chenell's brand-new offer for newsletter creators is here—filled with newsletter templates, growth strategies, and real examples you can implement at your own pace. -------------------------------------- “People think automation sounds hard. But If you do automatic bill pay, direct deposit, an email autoresponder, you're a…
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Who Let Him Have Fun? Internet megastar, YouTube elite and Cream of Mushroom Soup connoisseur, Cody Ko, is our guest on Episode 361 of Sappenin' Podcast! The comedic content creator takes an unique break from his New York City marathon training for an exclusive chat on raising money for The Release Recovery Foundation, his secret love for pop-punk …
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14k+ Followers in 30 Days: Recapping the GIR Growth Challenge
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38:06The Growth Vault is LIVE: Chenell's brand-new offer for newsletter creators is here—filled with newsletter templates, growth strategies, and real examples you can implement at your own pace. Quick note: We ran a 30-day Social Growth Challenge that we opened to the public for a $100 fee to join. But all purchasers of The Growth Vault were able to jo…
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EP. 360 - Jesse Leach (Killswitch Engage)
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52:32My Last Serenade. Metal-core poet, traveling spirit and vocal guru, Jesse Leach, is our guest on Episode 360 of Sappenin' Podcast! The Killswitch Engage melody master takes a moment to reflect on the bands twenty-fifth anniversary with secrets on untold celebrations, evolving their legacy and his own unique industry journey. In this conversation, L…
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This Newsletter Sold For $150m (And Why It Matters)
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27:15The Growth Vault is LIVE: Chenell's brand-new offer for newsletter creators is here—filled with newsletter templates, growth strategies, and real examples you can implement at your own pace. -------------------------------------- “If you’re not exceptional at one of the Big 3 — it’s impossible to build a content business.” — Dylan quoting Matt McGa…
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EP. 359 - James Veck-Gilodi (Deaf Havana)
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1:17:02Friends Like These. Deaf Havana mouthpiece, angelic songwriter and the luckiest boy in the world, James Veck-Gilodi, returns to Episode 359 of Sappenin' Podcast! As the band enter a relaunch surrounding their new album 'We’re Never Getting Out', one of our favourite humans pulls back the curtain on changing his life for the better, the real repercu…
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9 Things Beginners Should Ignore When Starting a Newsletter
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42:41The Growth Vault is LIVE: Chenell's brand-new offer for newsletter creators is here—filled with newsletter templates, growth strategies, and real examples you can implement at your own pace. -------------------------------------- “Stop wasting time picking the ‘perfect’ newsletter tool. Just start publishing. You can always switch later." — Dylan W…
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EP. 358 - Raiders vs The Blackout with James 'Bob' Davies
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1:22:17Destructobot. The epitome of anger, noodle riff master and comedy reference sweetheart, James 'Bob' Davies, is our guest on Episode 358 of Sappenin' Podcast! As Raiders finally release their long-awaited and first official body of work, 'Cold Eyes / Dead Hearts', exclusively with Bandcamp, The Blackout founding guitarist breaks his media silence, w…
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410 - Scott Vasterling of Humboldt Family Farms
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39:27Join us for the Season 4 finale of the Cannabiz Conversations Podcast, where host John sits down with Scott Vasterling from Humboldt Family Farms. In this episode, Scott shares his incredible journey from a casual cannabis consumer in San Diego to a passionate advocate for sun-grown cannabis in Humboldt County. Discover how Scott's love for surfing…
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The #1 Newsletter Metric You Need To Pay More Attention To
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43:36The Growth Vault is LIVE: Chenell's brand-new offer for newsletter creators is here—filled with newsletter templates, growth strategies, and real examples you can implement at your own pace. -------------------------------------- “I sent this short email—and got over 200 replies—when I usually get maybe 8 to 15. It was wild." — Chenell In this epis…
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EP. 357 - Ken Vasoli (The Starting Line)
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1:09:11Say It Like You Mean It. The Starting Line vocalist, melodic bassist and real life Taylor Swift reference, Ken Vasoli, is our guest on Episode 357 of Sappenin' Podcast! As the band drop their first new album in EIGHTEEN years, the leader behind your favourite bands favourite band, celebrates release day with exclusive confessions on the key to 'Ete…
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409 - Will Read - Founder & CEO, CannaPlanners
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41:11Welcome to Season 4 of the Cannabiz Conversation! In this episode, we dive deep into the intersection of the cannabis and automotive industries with our special guest, Will Read, CEO of Canna Planners. Join us as we explore Will's origin story, his first encounters with cannabis, and how his experiences shaped the mission of Canna Planners. We disc…
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3 Steps To A Perfect Subscriber Onboarding
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40:40The Growth Vault is LIVE: Chenell's brand-new offer for newsletter creators is here! The Growth Vault is filled with newsletter templates, growth strategies, and real examples you can implement at your own pace. -------------------------------------- “One of the worst things you can do is send new subscribers to a dead-end thank you page. That kill…
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EP. 356 - Liam Cromby (We Are The Ocean)
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1:18:55The Waiting Room. One of our most requested returns, Liam Cromby, is finally back on Episode 356 of Sappenin' Podcast! The We Are The Ocean songwriter exclusively answers questions surrounding fresh rumours on the bands future, his solo project journey and announcing a unique way to honour both. In this conversation, Cromby candidly opens up on evo…
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408 - Brendon McKee - COO of Silver Therapeutics
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37:16Welcome to Season 4 of the Cannabiz Conversation! In this episode, host Sean sits down with Brendan McKee, COO of Silver Therapeutics, to discuss his journey in the cannabis industry, starting from his early experiences with the plant at just 12 years old to running a multi-state operation. Brendan shares insights into the challenges and triumphs o…
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The Growth Vault is LIVE: Chenell's brand-new offer for newsletter creators is here! The Growth Vault is filled with newsletter templates, growth strategies, and real examples you can implement at your own pace. -------------------------------------- “Sometimes less is more. Cut the clutter and highlight the one thing that matters." — Chenell It's …
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EP. 355 - Alive with Jenna McDougall (Hevenshe / Tonight Alive)
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1:06:49The Other Side. Life affirming femme rock goddess, spiritual lyricist and Tonight Alive wonder, Jenna McDougle, is our guest on Episode 355 of Sappenin' Podcast! The Australian emo starlight joins us in front of a live audience at 2000 Trees Festival 2025, for a humbly candid conversation on returning to music with Hevenshe, taking time to find her…
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407 - Darren Gleeman - Managing Partner, MBO Ventures
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37:01Welcome to Season 4 of The Cannabiz Conversation! In this episode, we sit down with Darren Gleeman, the Cannabis ESOP Architect and managing partner at MBO Ventures. Join us as we dive deep into the world of Employee Stock Ownership Plans (ESOPs) and how they can revolutionize the cannabis industry. Darren shares his unique journey from running a h…
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$9M with 50k subscribers: Sam Vander Wielen's 7-figure newsletter funnel.
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1:01:17Get 30+ video lessons and ideas for optimizing your newsletter: https://growthinreverse.com/vault -------------------------- “All roads point to the email list." — Sam Vander Wielen, Sam's Sidebar In this episode, we interview Sam Vander Wielen—a lawyer-turned-creator who has sold over $9M in legal templates with a 50k-subscriber newsletter. Sam sh…
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405 - Marc Rodriguez - Green Leaf Payroll & Business Solutions
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35:04Welcome to Season 4 of the Cannabiz Conversations podcast! In this episode, host Sean sits down with Mark Rodriguez, CEO of Green Leaf Payroll and Business Solutions. They dive deep into the evolving landscape of the cannabis industry, discussing the challenges and opportunities that come with it. Mark shares his personal journey with cannabis, gro…
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406 - Kyle Loucks - Founder and CEO of RollPros
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41:17Welcome to another exciting episode of the Cannabiz Conversation! In Season 4, we dive deep into the world of cannabis with industry leaders and innovators. In this episode, we sit down with Kyle Loucks, CEO of RollPros, a company revolutionizing the pre-roll market. Kyle shares his unique cannabis origin story, detailing how his engineering backgr…
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Love In Fiction. Emo hyme conductor, sunshine post-pop visionary and silver balloon gift-giver, Phil Bayer, is our guest on Episode 354 of Sappenin' Podcast! The FLOYA vocalist exclusively reveals secrets on the bands newly embraced live reputation, getting a second chance to pursue music and the heartwarming storyboard leading to their double coll…
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Recapping CEX 2025: Un-hyping AI, Community Moats, and the Future of Newsletters
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44:08The Growth Vault is LIVE: Chenell's brand-new product —The Growth Vault— is here. Filled with newsletter templates, growth strategies, and real examples you can implement at your own pace. -------------------------------------- “If content is king, AI is storming the castle." — Darren Vesterfelt, Mighty Networks Chenell was just in Cleveland for th…
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EP. 353 - Halestorm (Lzzy Hale & Joe Hottinger)
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57:42Back From The Dead. Grammy award winners, modern metal royalty and scene badasses, Lzzy Hale and Joe Hottinger, are our guests on Episode 353 of Sappenin' Podcast! The Halestorm guitar romantics take a moment to reflect on paying tribute to Black Sabbath, unapologetic rock swagger and pioneering change in old school genres, like only a women can. I…
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His private newsletter with 1.5k subs earns $1M ARR
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1:00:22Join our September Social Growth Challenge: https://growthinreverse.com/social -------------------------- “You have to be first—or you have to be best. That's how you win at paid content." — Nathan May, The Feed Media In this episode, we interview Nathan May, founder of The Feed Media. Nathan shares how he turned a small, private newsletter into a …
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EP. 352 - Chris Freeman (Hot Mulligan)
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1:07:30How Do You Know It's Not Armadillo Shells? Hot Mulligan co-vocalist, songwriting traveler and skateboarding photographer, Chris Freeman, is our guest on Episode 352 of Sappenin' Podcast! The '#1 hottest band in the world' celebrate the release day of their new album 'The Sound A Body Makes When It's Still' with confessions behind their famous joke …
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>> Join the 30-Days of Growth Social Challenge: https://growthinreverse.com/social -------------------------------------- “The first 6 months taught me that consistency beats everything — even if you’re not perfect." In this episode of the Growth In Reverse podcast, Dylan and Chenell rewind the clock to when Chenell was just starting her newsletter…
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402 - Michael Peterson's Journey into the Cannabis Industry
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32:13Welcome to Season 4 of the Cannabiz Conversations podcast! In this exciting episode, we sit down with Michael Peterson, a passionate advocate for cannabis and a budtender in Michigan. Michael shares his unique journey from growing up in Virginia, a state not fond of cannabis, to embracing the plant in a more accepting environment. Join us as we dis…
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Welcome to Season 4 of the Cannabiz Conversation Podcast! In this episode, your host takes a moment to introduce himself and share his journey with cannabis, from his early experiences in the Midwest to his passion for the plant that has shaped his life. Join us as we dive into the evolution of the podcast, highlighting exciting changes for this se…
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Welcome to Season 4, Episode 3 of Cannabiz Conversations! In this episode, host Sean sits down with Kevin Hart, CEO of GreenCheck, to discuss the evolving landscape of the cannabis industry, particularly in relation to banking and financial services. Join us as they dive into: The challenges cannabis businesses face in securing banking relationship…
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404 - Nohtal Partansky of Sorting Robotics - Innovating the Cannabis Industry
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33:39Welcome to Season 4 of the Cannabiz Conversation podcast! In this exciting episode, we have a special returning guest, Natal, the CEO of Sorting Robotics. Join us as we dive into the latest innovations in the cannabis industry, including the impressive Moonglue product designed for pre-rolls and the recent recognition of Sorting Robotics on the Inc…
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EP. 351 - Trailblazing Modern Metal with Maria Lessing (Future Palace), Charlie Rolfe (As Everything Unfolds) and Alice Lake (Lake Malice)
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1:01:48The Echos of Disparity. Proclaimed the 'powderpuff girls' of the alternative metalcore scene, Maria Lessing (Future Palace), Charlie Rolf (As Everything Unfolds) and Alice Lake (Lake Malice) are our guests in this unique live crossover roundtable for Episode 351 of Sappenin' Podcast! Recorded live on stage at Radar Festival 2025, three of Europes m…
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5 Newsletter Growth Lessons From 2.5 Years of Publishing
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41:59“If you spend 80% of your time making incredibly good content, you probably only have to spend 20% marketing it." In this special episode, we’re bringing you Chenell’s conversation with Darrell Vesterfelt, VP of Growth at Mighty Networks, for a recent Creator Summit. In the chat, Chenell talks about why she started a newsletter — and why she chose …
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EP. 350 - Moon Valjean #2 (Goldfinger / Greek Fire / Ex-Story Of The Year)
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1:00:28Open Your Eyes. Goldfinger guitarist, Greek Fire showman and Ex-Story Of The Year founding member, Phil 'Moon Valjean' Sneed is our guest on Episode 350 of Sappenin' Podcast! During our summer at the Warped Tour, Moon invited us to the ska-punk trailer corner of backstage, to reconnect, talk candidly and explain a lot of unanswered questions from h…
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How CJ Gustafson Grew Mostly Metrics to 60k+ Subscribers & Multi‑Six‑Figures in Revenue
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53:43The Growth Vault is LIVE: https://growthinreverse.com/vault ---------------------------------------------------------------- “During my last year as a CFO, I made more money from my newsletter and podcast than my full-time job." — CJ Gustafson, Mostly Metrics We sit down with CJ Gustafson, former tech CFO and now full-time creator of two newsletter…
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EP. 349 - Warped Tour: Long Beach 2025 (Black Veil Brides, Cobra Starship, Taylor Acorn, Silverstein, Charlotte Sands, Nothing Nowhere, LØLØ, Matt Cutshall)
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2:00:18Long Beach! Vans Warped Tour, one of the scenes most iconic staples, pop-culture references and band boot camp, returned to Los Angeles, to celebrate the festivals thirtieth anniversary. As a result, Sappenin' Podcast was flown out with the Emo's Not Dead to California, to record Episode 349 backstage to capture the events cultural impact, lasting …
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Turning a Niche Newsletter of 30k Subs Into a Full-Time Business
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1:01:21The Growth Vault is LIVE: https://growthinreverse.com/vault ---------------------------------------------------------------- “You don’t need to create for everyone. You need to create for the people who value you most — and they’ll carry your newsletter further than you think." — Matt Johansen, Vulnu.com We sat down with Matt Johansen, creator of t…
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EP. 348 - AJ Perdomo (The Dangerous Summer) | Live @ 2000 Trees Festival 2025
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1:15:03Where I Want To Be. Recorded live in front of an audience at 2000 Trees Festival 2025, AJ Perdomo, takes to the stage to talk The Dangerous Summer next chapter, spontaneous engagements and explicit secrets on some old tour friends. Turn it up and join Sean and Morgan to find out Sappenin' this week! Follow us on Social Media: Twitter: @sappeninpod …
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How to Turn 1 Subscriber into 10: Get More Referrals With These Tactics
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36:28The Growth Vault is LIVE: https://growthinreverse.com/vault ---------------------------------------------------------------- “This is the underrated growth strategy every newsletter should be using.” What if every subscriber could turn into 10 more? In this episode of the Growth In Reverse podcast, Dylan and Chenell unpack one of the most underrate…
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EP. 347 - 2000 Trees Festival 2025 (Taking Back Sunday, Coheed and Cambria, Baby Lasagna, Twin Atlantic, Stick To Your Guns, Lowlives)
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1:35:19Trees Heatwave! Officially our favourite community driven, independent and chilled vibe festival, 2000Trees, invited us back to Upcote Farm to experience the sweatiest rays of sunshine, celebrate everything alternative and dish the dirt, with some scene defying bands. Episode 347 features a personal insight into a weekend of backstage gossip, infla…
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His Paid Newsletter Launch Drove $50k+ (and 500+ paid subs)
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48:38“I waited to launch my paid newsletter until I had a solid strategy and felt like I’d earned it.” — Tom Orbach, Marketing Ideas Tom Orbach of MarketingIdeas.com — which recently crossed 44,000 free subscribers and over 500 paid subscribers in just the first few days after launching his paid tier — joins Chenell & Dylan to share the exact playbook h…
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EP. 346 - Live with Aaron Gillespie (Underoath)
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1:09:33Reinventing Your Exit! Scene staple, simultaneous drum vs vocal blueprint and ghostwriting genius, Aaron Gillespie, is our guest on Episode 346 of Sappenin' Podcast! The Underoath legend joins us in front of a live audience at the O2 Victoria Wearhouse in Manchester, UK to talk about the bands lasting influence, neutering new artists and an unhealt…
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Newsletter Coaching Session: Scaling Deep Dives Into a Newsletter Growth Engine
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42:30“$250k is when growth changes. It’s when you need systems. You usually can’t do it solo.” — Matt Gira, The Quarter Matt Gira joins Chenell & Dylan — in person — to share how he went from building underwater drones to launching The Quarter: a newsletter that deep dives into how founders grow bootstrapped businesses to $250K. This is an interview, bu…
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Imposter Syndrome. Influential guitar hero, viral YouTube sensation and Machine Gun Kelly's global touring guitarist, Sophie Lloyd, is our guest on Episode 345 of Sappenin' Podcast! The shredding star takes time after her groundbreaking set at Download Festival, to riff untold stories on her evolution from the screen to iconic stages, putting toget…
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Your Newsletter Is Too Easy to Join — Here’s Why That’s a Problem
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31:34“I love unsubscribes. Don’t be here if you don’t want to be here.” It is insanely easy to subscribe to a newsletter—and even MULTIPLE newsletters all at once. But is that a good thing? Should newsletter creators be more choosy when determining who signs up? We're diving into one of the most overlooked and under-discussed aspects of newsletter growt…
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EP. 344 - The Rebirth of Nixon Newell | FKA: Tegan Nox (WWE)
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1:18:40The Girl with the Shiniest Wizard. Professional wrestling superstar, pop-punk graduate and ink addict, Nixon Newell, is our guest on Episode 344 of Sappenin' Podcast! The pride of Wales returns with exclusive confessions on reinventing her career, answering back to WWE after releasing her twice and starting a new OnlyFans adventure. in this convers…
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9 Big Takeaways For Creators From Craft + Commerce 2025
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46:40“The real value wasn’t in the keynotes—it was the dinners, the hikes, the casual connections.” – Dylan Redekop, first-time C+C attendee Dylan and Chenell reflect on their time at Kit's Craft + Commerce email newsletter conference for creators in Boise. But this episode isn’t just a recap — it’s a deep dive into what made the conference unforgettabl…
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EP. 343 - Download Festival 2025 (McFly, Bullet For My Valentine, Paddy Considine, Shinedown, Kids In Glass Houses, Hatebreed, Cradle Of Filth, Elliot Minor, AWOLNATION, Holy Wars)
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2:15:49SCREAM DOWNLOAD! This week, Sappenin' Podcast was invited back to the iconic grounds of Donington Park, to record Episode 343, backstage from the countries premier rock festival, to capture the events historic legacy, unique spirit and uncover all the latest behind the scenes secrets. Listen to exclusive conversations with McFly drummer Harry Judd …
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