Best Ethan And Devin Podcasts (2025)

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Playing the Long Game: The Power of Self-Control 34:23

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8d ago34:23

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As a special addition to this week's episode, you can see Katy's full sit-down interview with Angela Duckworth, where they also explore the relationship between self-control and grit. Watch or listen to their conversation on YouTube or Spotify. When your emotions flare or temptation calls, what does it take to hold back? Whether it’s resisting the …

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Bonus: A Sit Down With Katy Milkman & Angela Duckworth 33:36

8d ago33:36

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In this bonus addition of Choiceology, Katy Milkman sits down with psychologist and Grit author Dr. Angela Duckworth, a leading expert on self-control. She breaks down what science tells us about managing impulses, why willpower by itself falls short, and how simple environmental tweaks and practical strategies can help anyone delay gratification a…

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S5E8: One Baby After Another 1:11:19

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We discuss Paul Thomas Anderson's One Battle After Another (2025) and discuss some life/pod changes. See you in December for Cameron Christmas!By Ethan and Devin

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How Mindset Shapes Success 35:08

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Most of us label ourselves early on as academic (or not), athletic (or not), or talented (or not). But even if you feel like you're lacking in natural talent or ability in certain areas, approaching new skills or challenges with openness, effort, and curiosity can take you farther than you might expect. In this episode of Choiceology with Katy Milk…

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Why Starting Over Hurts 37:56

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If you've ever gotten well into a project—maybe a DIY renovation—and then realized that you've taken the wrong approach, you probably know that it's very tempting to just stay the course. Starting all over again would be so painful, even if starting over is clearly the best option. Or maybe you've taken a wrong turn on a hike and only noticed it a …

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Teamwork That Works: What Great Teams Have in Common 42:53

2M ago42:53

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What makes an effective team? Talent? Skill? Discipline? In this episode of Choiceology with Katy Milkman, we're looking at some of the more surprising ingredients of successful teams, according to science. Teams where the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. You'll hear the story of the Kon-Tiki expedition—a harrowing journey across the Pac…

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When It Feels Like Everyone's Watching 36:34

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We've all been there. Maybe you fumbled a line in a presentation. Or tripped on a shoelace. Or suffered a bad hair day. It can feel like the whole world is watching you—and judging you—in those embarrassing moments. But are people paying as much attention to you as you think? In this episode of Choiceology with Katy Milkman, we explore why we tend …

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How a Single Source of Information Can Seem Like Several 28:36

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You've probably been in situations where multiple friends recommend the same product. It must be great, if everyone is talking about it, right? But then you find out that those friends had all just seen the same product on a popular TV show. What seemed like independent recommendations really came from a single source. In this episode of Choiceolog…

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Twilight of the Idles: 2025's Superhero Summer 1:22:25

3M ago1:22:25

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Ethan and Devin dove into the summer box office with 2025's Superman and The Fantastic Four: First Steps. They discuss the films' differing responses to the (potentially, hopefully?) growing superhero exhaustion, liberal technocracy vs. dumb guy morality, and the power of productive incoherence. Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, or BlueSky at @youre…

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Coming Soon: A New Season of Choiceology 1:35

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It's a new season of Choiceology, an original podcast from Charles Schwab. New episodes arrive every two weeks, so please follow us in your favorite podcasting app. Important Disclosures The comments, views, and opinions expressed in the podcast are those of the speakers and do not necessarily represent the views of Charles Schwab. Data contained h…

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S5E6: Wood You Rather? featuring Will Sloan! 1:30:43

4M ago1:30:43

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In this special episode, Ethan and Devin are joined by critic and author Will Sloan to discuss his new book, Ed Wood: Made in Hollywood USA and Wood's iconic "worst film of all time," Plan 9 from Outer Space (1957). They discuss what it means to reinterpret Wood as more than simply a bad director while exploring the film's the outsider aesthetics a…

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S5E5: A Belated Father's Day Special 2:20:24

4M ago2:20:24

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Ethan and Devin honor their non-James Cameron fathers in this special Father's Day episode. We watched "Viking Bikers from Hell" (S3E22 of Miami Vice) and the made-for-TV film The Winter of Our Discontent. Why in the world did they do this? Listen to find out. Featuring a brief interview with Papa Stale. Follow us on Twitter or Instagram at youreta…

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Little Bits of Happiness: With Guests Sally Millington & Ellen Evers 28:27

5M ago28:27

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Were you the kind of kid who devoured all your Halloween candy in one sitting—or savored it daily until, somehow, it was Easter? And when it comes to bad news, do you prefer it all at once or with some time in between? Turns out, the way we bundle or separate life's highs and lows can influence our happiness. In this episode of Choiceology with Kat…

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Cents & Sensibility: With Guests Melina Palmer & Devin Pope 32:49

5M ago32:49

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Would you pay more for a car with 29,999 miles than one with 30,000? The answer should be no—it's a negligible difference, after all—but research shows that people often do pay more than they should for cars that are just short of certain odometer thresholds. In this episode of Choiceology with Katy Milkman, we look at why a price or an age or a te…

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S5E4: The Deep Impact of Armageddon 1:35:29

6M ago1:35:29

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Ethan and Devin watched the twin disaster films of 1998: Michael Bay's Armageddon and Mimi Leder's Deep Impact. They discuss these different modes of boomer death dream, the end of the End of History, and why a mile-high tsunami can't melt steel beams. Follow us on Twitter or Instagram at youretallpod. Follow Ethan on Twitter at Mathissippi and Dev…

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Hooked on Streaks: With Guests Chloë Hamilton & Jackie Silverman 31:27

6M ago31:27

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Streaks have long been logged in the world of sports. And for tracking habits, like daily writing. But now apps encourage us to keep streaks going for just about anything. Messaging friends, learning new languages, meditating, exercising, you name it. In this episode of Choiceology with Katy Milkman, we explore the motivational power of streaks. An…

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Obstacle Illusions: With Guests Daniella McCahey & Tom Gilovich 30:41

6M ago30:41

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First-born children tend to believe that their parents were harder on them than their siblings are willing to grant. Football fans take disproportionate note of the challenging games on their team's schedules. We're wired to interpret our challenges as bigger than our advantages, even if the reality is more balanced. In this episode of Choiceology …

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S5E3: The Phantom MAGAmess 2:20:02

6M ago2:20:02

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Ethan and Devin watched George Lucas's 90s indie classic, Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999). They discuss tariffs, merchandise, and other economic matters. Follow us on Twitter or Instagram at youretallpod. Follow Ethan on Twitter at Mathissippi and Devin on twitter at stalecooper. Email us at [email protected].…

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The Reality Trap: With Guests Ken Adelman & Julia Minson 38:22

7M ago38:22

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Is it ever possible to see the world objectively, as it is? Turn on the news, open social media, engage with that family member at Thanksgiving, and it appears to some the answer is yes. But what if our biggest blind spot is thinking we don't have a blind spot? In this episode of Choiceology with Katy Milkman, we look at how we can easily be fooled…

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A Numbers Game: With Guests Linda Chang & Stephen M. Colbert 29:37

7M ago29:37

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Workplaces often rely on numerical ratings for performance reviews. Election debates focus on poll numbers and approval ratings. Your watch counts your steps in a day. Numbers increasingly influence our decisions. In this episode of Choiceology with Katy Milkman, we look at our very human tendency to fixate on digits even when words or graphs repre…

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S5E2: Give Them a Lynch and They'll Take a Sonic the Hedgehog 2:18:47

7M ago2:18:47

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This is the pod. We're joined by author Mike Miley to discuss his new book David Lynch's American Dreamscape, the dearly departed Lynch's incomparable Mulholland Dr. (2001), and uh, Sonic the Hedgehog. Find Mike's work at https://www.mikemiley.com/. He's on Bluesky at mikemiley and Instagram at mikecmiley. Check out David Lynch's American Dreamscap…

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S5E1: The 2nd Annual Oscars Spectacular 2:50:05

8M ago2:50:05

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Here's the audio from our 2nd annual Oscars twitch stream (broadcast at twitch.tv/youretallbut). Featuring Dan, Mike B, Catie, Oscar Isaac's right hand man Isaac, Devin's roommates, Devin's girlfriend, Matt "Spooky" Powers, and surprises galore! Donate to the 'No Other Land' Rebuilding Alliance Fundraiser at https://secure.givelively.org/donate/reb…

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Watch Our 2nd Annual Oscars Live Twitch Stream on Mar 2! 3:33

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Hello listeners! We're about to kick start our new season, and we'll be doing so in opulent fashion with our 2nd annual live Oscars twitch stream. We'll be streaming for 2 hours from 8 PM to 10 PM Eastern time (5 PM to 7 PM Pacific) on Sunday, Mar 2. Join us live at https://twitch.tv/youretallbut or catch the audio-only version in your podcast feed…

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S4E15: It's a James Cameron Christmas! 2:55:20

10M ago2:55:20

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Happy holidays from the folks at You're Tall but I'm Standing in Front of You! We celebrate the end of a terrible year and the conclusion of season 4 by finally venturing into one of the few corners of James Cameron's oeuvre we've left untrodden. That's right: we recorded a watchalong discussion of Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991), featuring repea…

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S4E14: Gladiator, Too! 2:24:36

11M ago2:24:36

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From the heart of the Las Vegas Sphere, we discussed Gladiator II and Gladiator, too. Follow us on Twitter or Instagram at youretallpod. Follow Ethan on Twitter at Mathissippi and Devin on twitter at stalecooper. Email us at [email protected] Ethan and Devin

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S4E13: We Saw the Signs (2002) 2:29:48

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It's the annual You're Tall but I'm Standing in Front of You Halloween Spooktacular! We're joined, as always, by Matt Powers, this time to watch M. Night Shyamalan's Signs (2002). We discuss paranoid faith, Joaquin Phoenix's on-base percentage, and M. Night's many jobs. Follow us on Twitter or Instagram at youretallpod. Follow Ethan on Twitter at M…

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A Hero's Journey: With Guests Ethan Gilsdorf, David Fajgenbaum & Kurt Gray 39:52

1y ago39:52

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Luke Skywalker, Frodo Baggins, Katniss Everdeen, the main characters of many great stories, they all have one thing in common: the shape of their journey. From answering the call to adventure, to undergoing tests of character and strengths, to triumphantly returning home forever changed. It's a classic narrative structure that's inspired countless …

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S4E13: Megalopolis 1:24:06

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It's Megalopolis! Ethan and Devin watched Megalopolis (2024). They discuss Megalopolis, Megalopolis, and Megalopolis. The closing music for this episode is "Idol Hands" by Ethan Palmer and the Ethan Palmer Experience. Listen to it and the rest of the 11th anniversary edition of Ethan's album The Piano Is Louder This Time at https://ethanpalmer.band…

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Rebel With a Cause: With Guests Francis Kelly & Christopher Bryan 35:34

1y ago35:34

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Most parents encounter resistance from their children. Perhaps when the kids are young and turning their noses up at vegetables, or when they're teenagers and balking at curfews or dress codes. So what's the best way to encourage good choices in the face of a rebellious kid? Or a rebellious adult, for that matter? In this episode of Choiceology wit…

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On a High Note: With Guests Maurice Schweitzer & Matthew Polly 38:03

1y ago38:03

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Do you recall the best concert you ever went to? Best trip? Best meal? Chances are good that a few memories come to mind—maybe not every detail of the event, but perhaps a couple great moments. It can go the opposite way, too. Worst travel experience. Worst date. Our memory works in snapshots of particular parts of our experience. In this episode o…

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The Truth Is Out There: With Guests Tania Lombrozo & Toby Ball 31:42

1y ago31:42

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Your car breaks down. Must be because you skipped an oil change last month. Or your favorite team loses. Well, that was because of a bad call by a corrupt referee. In reality, many events involve multiple contributing factors. But we tend to gravitate toward single causes. In this episode of Choiceology with Katy Milkman, we look at our desire to e…

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S4E12: Alien: Romulus, Deadpool & Wolverine, & Blockbuster Nostalgia 1:42:49

1y ago1:42:49

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Ethan and Devin watched a pair of new releases, Alien: Romulus and Deadpool & Wolverine. They discuss the current state of the blockbuster and the films' contrasting approaches to cinematic nostalgia. Follow us on Twitter or Instagram at youretallpod. Follow Ethan on Twitter at Mathissippi and Devin on twitter at stalecooper. Email us at youretallp…

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To Know What You Know: With Guests David Dunning & Andrew Flack 27:58

1y ago27:58

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In this episode of Choiceology with Katy Milkman, we look at the often-misunderstood and surprisingly common Dunning-Kruger effect with an interview featuring one of the researchers who first identified it, David Dunning. But we start with the story of Cecilia Jimenez, the humble Spanish grandmother and amateur landscape painter who took it upon he…

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S4E11: Hillbilly Elegy 2:04:20

1y ago2:04:20

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Ethan and Devin are joined by Kenton Butcher and Catie Denham to discuss Ron Howard's Hillbilly Elegy (2020). Why were liberal elites so primed for JD Vance's anti-worker vision of Appalachia? Does this film secretly reveal that JD Vance is a sociopath? Did Pete Buttigieg rip off Bob Dylan's "Mr. Tambourine Man" in his memoir? Listen to find out! F…

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The Buddy System: With Guests Max Maeder & Rachel Gershon 29:41

1y ago29:41

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Pursuing a goal alone is convenient. Whether you're training for a marathon or aiming to read 20 books this year, it's convenient to move at your own pace and schedule. But having a gym buddy or a book club pal can make a bigger difference to your goal completion than you think. In this episode of Choiceology with Katy Milkman, we look at the benef…

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S4E10: Punch-Drunk Love 2:06:17

1y ago2:06:17

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Ethan and Devin are joined by Miles Taylor (@MTisempty) to discuss Paul Thomas Anderson's Punch-Drunk Love (2002). They discuss the collision of PTA's directorial sensibilities with Adam Sandler's on-screen persona, the film's search for love in the informational haze of the new 21st century, and Mormonism as grindset religion. Follow us on Twitter…

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S4E9: Short Circuit 1:35:08

1+ y ago1:35:08

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Ethan and Devin watched John Badham's Short Circuit (1986). They discuss the nature of sentience, the perils of Artificial Intelligence, and the sexual politics of robotic throuples. Follow us on Twitter or Instagram at youretallpod. Follow Ethan on Twitter at Mathissippi and Devin at stalecooper. Email us at [email protected]…

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S4E8: Elden Ring (feat. Steven Watts) 2:11:36

1+ y ago2:11:36

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Ethan and Devin are joined by Steven Watts (@stevenwatts) to discuss FromSoftware's Elden Ring (2022) just in time for the new DLC, Shadow of the Erdtree. They discuss how the game mediates our neoliberal hellscape into a dark fantasy apocalypse, the need to embrace death, and why Margit the Fell Omen should have never been named department chair. …

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S4E7: You’re Mad Max but I’m Furiosa in Front of You 2:52:41

1+ y ago2:52:41

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Ethan and Devin continue their unofficial post-apocalyptic explorations by diving into the Mad Max universe, with a focus on 1981's The Road Warrior and, with returning guest Catie Denham, 2024's newly released Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga. They discuss Mad Max's massive aesthetic influence, Furiosa's prequel problems, and why the apocalypse runs on bul…

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S4E6: Fallout: Great Energy for Crops and Kids 2:45:29

1+ y ago2:45:29

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Ethan and Devin dive into the post-apocalyptic, multimedia Fallout universe. First, they're joined by returning guest Mike Opal and first-timer T Thumann to discuss the new Amazon series and test their wasteland wits against Ethan's completely unbiased trivia. Then, Ethan and Devin discuss Ethan's visit to the Hanford B Reactor and the evolving ide…

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To Fight Another Day: With Guests Alex Imas & Mary Stockwell 35:55

1+ y ago35:55

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When you're facing loss—say, in a board game or during a sporting event or with a declining stock—it can be difficult to remember your true tolerance for risk. You're likely to seek risk more than you normally would. In this episode of Choiceology with Katy Milkman, we look at a tendency to seek risk in the face of losses when those losses aren't y…

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S4E5: Face Slash Off (feat. Erik Baker) 2:01:36

1+ y ago2:01:36

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We're joined by Erik Baker to discuss John Woo's Face/Off (1997). We rank the performances and the performances within the performances, grapple with the power of Evil Howie Mandel, and ask what it means to swap faces at the end of history. Follow Erik on Twitter at erikmbaker and check out his work at The Drift. Find more of his writing at https:/…

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Choiceology's Guide to Better Decisions: With Guests James Korris, Carey Morewedge & Jack Soll 31:28

1+ y ago31:28

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Over the years, Choiceology has offered a lot of advice for making better decisions. In this special episode of Choiceology with Katy Milkman, we bring you the story of a video game that is surprisingly effective at reducing decision errors, and you'll hear about a practical checklist for improving choices in many different contexts. Solving fictit…

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S4E4: Harvest Rebel Moon 2:05:40

1+ y ago2:05:40

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In which we are contractually obligated to watch Rebel Moon – Part Two: The Scargiver (2024). We unpack how Zack Snyder's new star war represents the infinite expandability of content-hours that Netflix craves, and how if you Snyder Cut a liberal a fascist bleeds.By Ethan and Devin

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The Charmer's Playbook: With Guests Wilfred Webster & Daniel Read 34:20

1+ y ago34:20

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"Don't judge a book by its cover" is an old adage for a good reason. Elegant book cover designs can create a positive impression and make you more likely to judge the writing quality more positively. But these traits—cover art and writing—are separate and distinct features of books. So why do we allow the judgment of one trait to spill over to anot…

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Recipe for Success: With Guests Simon Rogan & Michele Gelfand 34:12

1+ y ago34:12

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Are rules made to be followed—or meant to be broken? Often, the answer will depend on culture and the context in which people make decisions. In this episode of Choiceology with Katy Milkman, we look at how carefully people in different contexts follow social norms, rules, and procedures. We'll also see how strict and relaxed cultures affect the qu…

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S4E3: Still Cruising After All These Years 2:44:59

1+ y ago2:44:59

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We're joined by Samuel Catlin to discuss William Friedkin's Cruising (1980). We discuss the film's exploration of desire, identification, and homophobia; its complex conditions of production; and cruise ships. That's right, cruise ships. Follow Sam on Twitter at lint_ax and read his work in Parapraxis Magazine (https://www.parapraxismagazine.com/).…

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Take the Deal! With Guests Daniel Kahneman, Colin Camerer & Luis Green (Rebroadcast) 44:32

1+ y ago44:32

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In this episode of Choiceology with Katy Milkman, we look at how framing a decision based on what you stand to lose versus what you stand to gain affects your tolerance of risk. Luis Green was a contestant on the popular TV game show Deal or No Deal. The game is largely one of chance, but there are moments during play where the contestant has an op…

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Top of Mind: With Guests John Farrell & Manasvini Singh 32:05

1+ y ago32:05

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When someone asks, "What's your favorite restaurant?" odds are you're inclined to recommend a place you've eaten at recently—even if it's not really your favorite. It's just top of mind. Why do we weigh recent events so heavily? And how does this tendency impact important decisions, like whom to vote for or how to conduct medical procedures? In thi…