The Practice Podcast series was created and is hosted by our partners Brett Amron and Jeffrey Bast. These Podcast episodes are intended to be a resource to help business leaders and other lawyers without all the complicated lawyer language. Check us out!
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On The Lawyer's Edge podcast, attorney and professional business coach Elise Holtzman sits down with successful lawyers, legal marketing specialists, business leaders and authors to talk about how lawyers and law firms can grow and sustain healthy, profitable businesses.
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196. Collaborative Family Law: Redefining Divorce With Kristen Goss
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27:58On this episode, we welcome family law attorney and mediator Kristen Goss, founder of KWG Family Legal & Mediation Services. Kristen brings a human-centered perspective to family law, championing collaborative processes, alternative dispute resolution, and holistic family healing. Kristen shares her journey, from her roots in a socially engaged hou…
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Beth Huffman | Holiday Gifting for Law Firms: Avoiding Pitfalls and Making It Personal
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30:58Beth Huffman has more than 40 years of experience in communications, media, and marketing. After two decades as a reporter, she spent the next 20 years helping major law firms, legal organizations, and global clients create strategic narratives that elevated their reputations and work. She served more than a decade at Dechert and later as head of m…
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195. Built To Last: Jerry Markowitz On Leadership, Longevity, And The Law
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37:41Jerry Markowitz is a founding shareholder at Markowitz Ringel Trusty + Hartog. He joins Jeffrey and Brett to talk about the values and vision that have guided his extraordinary legal career. As one of South Florida’s most accomplished bankruptcy attorneys, Jerry reflects on his decades in practice, the art of balancing firm leadership with client a…
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Hilary Gerzhoy | Good Lawyers, Bad Outcomes: How Lawyers Can Avoid Ethics Trouble
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46:48Hilary Gerzhoy is a partner at HWG LLP, where she represents lawyers, law firms, legal tech companies, and in-house counsel navigating the full range of legal ethics matters. She serves as outside general counsel to law firms nationwide, advising on risk management, conflicts and disqualification, and firm formations and dissolutions. Hilary is the…
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194. The Man Behind the Mic: Nelson’s Story—And Why He Is Forced to Leave
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38:37On this special episode, we share an intimate conversation with our producer, Nelson Rosado. Sadly, this will be the first and last time he speaks on the show. Nelson has worked with us for 12 years, helping to produce the podcast since its inception. Unfortunately, he is being forced out of the country where he has lived for nearly 35 years. We di…
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Tina Solis | The Lateral Playbook: What Lawyers Need to Know Before Changing Firms
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38:14Tina Solis is a partner at Nixon Peabody. She has built a national practice advising lawyers and law firms on high-stakes professional and business transitions. She's particularly known for representing individual attorneys and groups making lateral moves, helping them navigate complex partnership agreements, fiduciary obligations, and departure is…
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In this episode, host Jeffrey and Brett sit down with the inimitable Joel Hirschhorn, a true titan of criminal defense. With more than five decades of courtroom experience, Joel has built a reputation as a relentless advocate and a straight shooter with almost 400 jury trials, defending clients in high-stakes criminal matters in almost every Distri…
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John Kormanik | Time Isn’t the Problem: How Lawyers Can Rethink Productivity
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41:54John R. Kormanik, Esq., is on a mission to help attorneys reclaim their purpose, energy, and impact. As a Certified Professional Coach, former trial lawyer, and author of Break the Law: A Story of a Reimagined Career and a Reclaimed Life, John brings decades of experience from the courtroom to the coaching space. Today, he guides attorneys to say “…
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192. The Business of Criminal Law, With Adam Rossen
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39:13In this episode, Jeff and Brett speak with Adam Rossen, a former prosecutor turned visionary CEO of one of Florida’s fastest-growing criminal defense firms. Adam shares his journey from solo practice to leading a multi-office team across South Florida, offering a candid look at the challenges and breakthroughs that shaped the Rossen Law Firm’s uniq…
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Charlie Jimerson | Rethinking the Billable Hour for Sustainable Law Firm Growth
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41:39Charlie Jimerson is the founder and CEO of Jimerson Birr, a Florida-based business law firm with a national reputation for litigation, regulatory, and transactional work. He's also a U.S. Air Force veteran, a board-certified construction law attorney, and a widely recognized leader in the legal and business communities. Under his leadership, the fi…
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191. Leadership & Culture in the Law – A Conversation With Scott Baena
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43:15In this episode, Jeff and Brett sit down with longtime Miami attorney Scott Baena, a founding partner of Bilzin Sumberg and a respected figure in the world of business bankruptcy law. With over 40 years of experience, Scott reflects on his journey to the practice, how a spring break detour lead to a career shift, founding a successful law firm, def…
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Aaron Strauss | The Entrepreneurial Law Firm: Building a Platform, Not Just a Practice
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41:52Aaron Y. Strauss is one of the leading legal advisors in the commercial real estate industry, providing insight and guidance on billions of dollars' worth of transactions during his career. As founder and managing partner of A.Y. Strauss, he has positioned the firm as one of the region’s most respected legal organizations for commercial real estate…
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Brett Amron & Jeffrey Bast | Building a Law Firm Partnership That Lasts
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50:22Jeffrey Bast is a nationally respected attorney with over 30 years of experience in insolvency and commercial litigation. He represents debtors, creditors, trustees, and business stakeholders in workouts, reorganizations, and bankruptcy-related litigation, with a strong focus on avoiding bankruptcy when possible and guiding clients through complex …
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Lexlee Overton | Beyond Burnout: Building High-Performing Legal Teams Through Well-Being
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41:36Lexlee Overton is a former trial lawyer who spent more than 30 years in the courtroom before choosing a different path. After experiencing firsthand how the legal profession can wear lawyers down, she founded Mind Over Law to help lawyers move beyond burnout and lead with greater clarity, resilience, and purpose. Today, she works with both individu…
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190. From Big To Boutique To Big: Luis Salazar’s Law Firm Journey
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32:49Luis Salazar is no stranger to high-stakes legal battles. As the founding attorney behind Salazar Law and now the force behind Cole Schotz’s Miami expansion, Luis has led billion-dollar litigation wins and multibillion-dollar debt restructurings for clients across industries—from cryptocurrency firms to Fortune 500 companies. In this episode, Luis …
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Ken Vrana | Banking and Financial Strategy for Law Firms That Want to Grow
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40:59Ken Vrana is a Senior Director at Western Alliance’s Juris Banking Group. He specializes in crafting customized capital solutions for law firms, alternative legal service providers, and legal tech companies. With a deep expertise in complex banking relationships, he provides his clients with in-depth guidance on operating and fiduciary account setu…
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Danielle Garno is back! (If you missed her on Episode 157, go listen now!) And now she is a Partner at Daniel Ebeling Maccia & Cohen, where she continues her practice in the fashion, beauty, and luxury goods industries. She also teaches the Branding Master Class Workshop for Lawyers, an 8-week workshop for lawyers of all types and levels. On this e…
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Kirsten Branigan | Build an Army: How the Legal Profession Can Retain More Women Lawyers
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41:28Kirsten Branigan was facing an existential crisis. Working at a large New Jersey law firm with young children, she felt the rubber meeting the road in a significant way. She couldn't do everything she wanted to do with her family while meeting all the firm's requirements. Instead of just accepting the situation, Kirsten made two bold decisions. She…
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188. AUSA Turned Commercial Litigator (And Legal Legend)
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42:32Peter Prieto is a legal legend. (Our words, not his.) Today he is a partner at Podhurst Orseck with more than 25 years of experience handling complex commercial litigation, class actions, multidistrict litigation, and white-collar criminal defense. On this episode, he chats with Brett and Jeff about his path to success, including his childhood in r…
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Candisse Williamson | Strategy and Talent: How One General Counsel Builds Legal Teams and Chooses Outside Counsel
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25:55Candisse Williamson is a highly accomplished General Counsel known for her creative deal-making and extensive legal expertise across the entertainment and corporate sectors. After graduating from Northwestern Law, she refined her corporate law skills, with a focus on M&A and private equity, at prestigious firms including Paul Weiss and King & Spald…
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Elise Holtzman is a former practicing lawyer, executive coach, consultant, and the CEO of The Lawyer’s Edge®, helping lawyers become better business developers and leaders. She chats with Jeff and Brett about a variety of topics, including her transition from practicing law to founding a company, why she chose lawyers to coach, why law firm managem…
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Darin Klemchuk | Leading from Within: How Personal Growth Fuels Law Firm Leadership
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33:36Darin Klemchuk is the CEO of Klemchuk PLLC, a leading litigation, intellectual property, and business law firm based in Dallas, Texas. Klemchuk focuses his practice on IP litigation (patents, trademarks, copyrights, and trade secrets), IP enforcement and anti-counterfeiting programs, and IP strategy. He helps clients build market share and block co…
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186. AI Will Enhance You, Not Replace You
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30:19Anthony DeSimone is pioneering the integration of artificial intelligence in business and law. On this episode, he discusses the AI revolution with Jeff and Brett. They cover a variety of topics including why he was such an early adapter, why it’s not too late for you, how to go about learning and using AI, why AI will create jobs, how AI can enhan…
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Scott Love | Strategic Lateral Moves for Law Firm Partners
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35:46Scott Love is the President of The Attorney Search Group and host of The Rainmaking Podcast, which helps attorneys, professional service firms, and B2B salespeople get more and better business from all their clients. As a prolific thought leader on the topics of rainmaking, recruiting, and leadership, he helps law firm partners mitigate risk and ma…
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185. Business Bankruptcies Are On The Rise
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33:38As insolvency litigators, Brett and Jeff have unique insights on the business world. Many consider bankruptcy lawyers to be canaries in the coalmine. When they are busy, that may not be good for the rest of us. On this episode, they discuss what is happening in the bankruptcy world, the state of the economy, the challenges facing the business commu…
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Melanie Chaney & Scott Tiedemann | Passing the Torch: Tips for Seamless Leadership Succession
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47:12Scott Tiedemann first joined Liebert Cassidy Whitmore as an associate in 2000 and became a partner in 2004. When his tenure as managing partner concludes on September 30th of this year, he will be focusing his energies again full-time on his practice representing public safety agencies and building the firm's private investigations practice. Melani…
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184. Reflecting On Five Years of Podcasting
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20:54It is hard to believe that they have been at it this long, but Brett and Jeff have been podcasting for more than five years. They were as surprised to learn this as we were! But on this episode, they reflect on the milestone, chat about some of their favorite episodes, remember some important guests, and consider what is in store for the future of …
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Sandra Cohen | The Long Game of Business Development That Actually Works
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37:19Sandra Cohen is the Co-Founder and Managing Partner of Cohen & Buckmann, which specializes in executive compensation, employee benefits and pensions. Her firm is nearly ten years old and is highly ranked in Chambers USA Guide and The Legal 500, no small achievement for a young, small boutique firm. She is a frequent author and speaker and is a form…
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Morris Tabush is a tech enthusiast, entrepreneur, community activist, and founder of Tabush Group, a leading provider of virtual workspaces, private clouds, and managed IT services to mid-sized professional firms. On this episode, he shares with Brett and Jeff how he learned his trade from internships and neighborhood work, walking the streets to b…
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Anthony DeSimone | Making AI Work for Your Law Firm Without Compromising Security or Excellence
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41:30Anthony M. DeSimone is a leading advocate for integrating generative AI into the legal profession, specializing in helping law firms harness AI to enhance efficiency, profitability, and client service. With more than 25 years of experience as a CPA and CMA, Anthony began his career at Deloitte before transitioning to focus on business optimization.…
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Felicita Sandova is an expert on cybersecurity and artificial intelligence. She is the CEO and Co-founder of SENP-X, an organization dedicated to empowering individuals and businesses through cutting-edge AI and cybersecurity training programs. On this episode, she discusses with Brett and Jeff a variety of topics including life transitions, avoidi…
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Chris DeSantis | Why I Find You Irritating: Navigating Generational Friction at Work
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43:51Talk to any senior partner in a law firm, and you’re likely to get a complaint or snide comment about the younger generation of lawyers being lazier, more entitled, and less interested in making partner or assuming leadership roles than their predecessors. On the flip side, some younger lawyers will be all too happy to tell you that senior lawyers …
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181. Learn From An Expert On Law Firm Leadership
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30:28John Remsen, Jr., is widely recognized as one of the country’s leading authorities on law firm leadership, management, marketing, and business development. On this episode, he discusses with Brett and Jeff. how he helps law firms, and their leaders develop and implement long-term strategic objectives. They cover a variety of topics, including how t…
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180. Learning From An Expert On Technology
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46:14Welcome back, Dr. Hernan Londono, a highly accomplished Information Technology executive and Cybersecurity professional with nearly 30 years of expertise. He appeared on a panel of experts on Episode 178. Now he is back to discuss his journey with Brett and Jeff. Together, they cover a variety of topics, including his early years in rural Colombia,…
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Meet Jason A. Welt, a leading expert in court-ordered real estate sales. On this episode, Jason discussed with Brett and Jeff his work as a real estate agent and advisor for bankruptcies and receiverships, growing up as the child of a renowned trustee, learning from witnessing the mistakes of others, the importance of capitalizing on your connectio…
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Sophie Lechner | Leverage the Power of LinkedIn with The Magnet Model
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33:34Sophie Lechner is a former practicing lawyer turned business coach, speaker, and author with two decades of LinkedIn expertise. She helps mission-driven professionals turn marketing from a chore into a joy, enabling them to attract clients like a magnet rather than chase them down. Sophie is the creator of The MAGNET Model, a framework that simplif…
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178. Building An Intelligence-Driven Organizational Culture
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1:25:22In this special episode of Bast Amron’s The Practice Podcast, listen to the recorded panel “Building an Intelligence-Driven Organizational Culture” from our 7th Annual Business Advantage Forum. This panel was moderated by Managing Partner Brett Amron. It included Felicita Sandoval, CEO & Co-Founder of CyberwAIse™, Dr. Hernan Londono, Chief Technolo…
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Jennifer Gardner | Using the Art and Science of Influence to Be a More Persuasive Lawyer
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35:57Jennifer Gardner is a Los Angeles-based trial lawyer and persuasive communications consultant. Her three-decade career spans entertainment litigation, serious criminal cases, and business and real estate disputes. Jennifer teaches high-performing professionals how to grow their influence, impact, and executive presence through her programs The Art …
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177. Innovation Through Emotional Intelligence
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49:51In this special episode of Bast Amron’s The Practice Podcast, listen to the recorded panel “Innovation Through Emotional Intelligence” from our 7th Annual Business Advantage Forum. Attorney Alejandra Iglesia moderated this panel, which included Darline Llamas Llopis, VP of Finance & Retail, Miami Dolphins; D. Porpoise Evans, Office Managing Shareho…
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Coaching for Lawyers: What It Is, What It Isn’t, and Why It Works
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26:51Coaching is often misunderstood in the legal profession. It’s not about giving advice, cheerleading, or fixing a problem. It’s about creating space for clarity, growth, and meaningful change. In this solo episode, Elise Holtzman shares what lawyers need to know about professional coaching, including how it works, when it’s most effective, and how l…
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Pat Gillette | Just Ask! How Women Can Succeed as Rainmakers AND Law Firm Leaders
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31:15Pat Gillette is one of the country’s leading voices on gender equity in the legal profession. A seasoned employment litigator, rainmaker, and law firm leader, Pat spent 40 years in practice before shifting her focus to empowering women lawyers through speaking, writing, and consulting. She is a sought-after advisor on advancing women and diverse at…
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176. Does Your Firm Have Revenue Enablers™?
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31:23In this episode, Brett and Jeff chat with Jennifer Johnson, CEO and Founder of Calibrate Strategies, about the evolving role of business professionals in law firms. Jennifer shares her journey from attorney recruiting to founding her own executive search and consulting firm, emphasizing the value of Revenue Enablers™ in optimizing law firm operatio…
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Denise Baker | Leading a Law Firm: Hot Topics, Tough Calls, and Leadership Lessons
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33:31Denise Baker is a Co-Managing Partner of one of Canada’s oldest and most prestigious firms, WeirFoulds. In addition to that role, she advises on complex municipal and land use planning law issues that appear before multiple courts and tribunals. She also participates in mediations and negotiations to effectively resolve disputes before they get to …
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Christa Brown-Sanford | Why Staying True to Your Mission Is Crucial to Achieving Rainmaker Success
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34:40Christa Brown-Sanford is a partner at Baker Botts in Dallas and chair of its Intellectual Property department. She also serves on the firm’s Executive and Diversity and Inclusion committees and is an adjunct professor at SMU’s Dedman School of Law, where she speaks regularly on patent matters. At every stage, she provides guidance on patent procure…
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175. A Prequel To Episode 160 With Bob Josefsberg
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49:38Brett and Jeff had so much fun with Robert C. Josefsberg that they decided to bring him back for another episode. This time they start back at the beginning. Bob discusses his roots, where it all began, how he ended up in law school, his time in the US attorney’s office, his numerous mentors, and why he willingly helps people. Of course, he also sh…
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Katie Schwarting | The Surprising Habits of a Successful Rainmaker
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41:52Katie Schwarting is a real estate lawyer and partner at Seyfarth Shaw LLP in Charlotte, North Carolina. Her practice focuses on commercial mortgage-backed securities such as conduit and single asset, single borrower and Freddie Mac securitizations, and collateralized loan obligations. She works with servicers and special servicers on legal issues r…
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Nobody likes job interviews, certainly not when you are the candidate. In this episode, Brett and Jeff dig deep into the topic. From their personal experience over years of interviewing and hiring, they share a number of tips, from how to prepare to how to dress, what to say and what not to say, and generally how to show up in the best way. This ep…
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You Made Partner—Now What? How to Succeed in Your New Role
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27:46Making partner at your firm is a significant milestone, but successfully transitioning from associate or counsel to partner isn’t automatic. It requires a mindset shift, strategic planning, and the development of new skills to ensure long-term success. In this episode of The Lawyer’s Edge podcast, Elise Holtzman shares six actionable tips to help y…
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Irene Oria is a partner at Pierson Ferdinand with over twenty years of experience in complex commercial business litigation. In this episode, she discusses with Brett and Jeff her path to high-stakes litigation, how her firm grew to nearly thirty offices in just over a year, the benefits and risks of having a distributed firm, making the move from …
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Molly Kremer | Stop Losing Billable Time! A Guide to Higher Hours and Lower Stress
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28:30Molly Kremer is a certified life coach and former Biglaw litigator. As a high-achieving lawyer for 16 years, she made mistakes in how she approached billing her time which resulted in unintended and unsatisfactory outcomes. When she pursued her life coaching certification in 2021, she started understanding the real reasons behind her unhelpful bill…
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