🎙️ The AI Beehive Podcast helps mortgage and real estate pros discover the best AI tools to save time, generate leads, and grow their business. Each episode delivers real-world strategies and simple tech tips you can use today to work smarter—not harder.
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A podcast about local-first software development
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We believe in the power of stories! We analyze successful people and organizations through understanding their stories. Thanks @oregonkid.93 for the intro/outro beat.
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Episode Seven: Staying Fired Up & Ahead of the Curve with Mike Mills
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30:38In this episode of the AI Beehive Podcast, Ginger Bell and George Chevalier sit down with Mike Mills, Sales Leader at Service First Master, for a powerful conversation packed with energy, inspiration, and actionable advice. Mike shares his proven strategies to stay motivated in a challenging market, keep the doom and gloom at bay, and build momentu…
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Episode Six: No Scheduling. No Waiting. Just ROAM. Jon Brod Reveals the Future of Client Connection
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14:57🚪💬 What if your clients didn’t need to schedule a Zoom or hunt for your Calendly link — they could just walk into your virtual office, anytime? In this game-changing episode of The AI Beehive Podcast, Jon Brod, Co-Founder and CMO of ROAM, joins Ginger Bell and George Chevalier to introduce a powerful shift in how mortgage and real estate profession…
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Episode Five: Creating Your AI Twin with Bill Inman of Twin Protocol
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14:01What if you could duplicate yourself and be in two places at once—answering questions, sharing your expertise, and nurturing leads 24/7? It’s not science fiction. It’s the future of AI, and it’s here now. In this exciting episode of The AI Beehive Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and George Chevalier sit down with tech pioneer Bill Inman, President of Tw…
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Episode Four: How Jason Crawford Used Curiosity + AI to Build a Real Estate Powerhouse
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27:47In this episode of the AI Beehive Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and George Chevalier sit down with Jason Crawford — a 4x COO of Inc. 5000 private real estate companies, founder of Agent IQ Pro, and the driving force behind the rapidly growing YouTube sensation, Real Estate Academy TV. 🎥 Jason shares his transformative journey from real estate executiv…
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Episode Three: From Middle Schoolers to Mortgage Mastery – AI Insights with Scott Payne of Shape
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29:50Welcome to another buzzworthy episode of The AI Beehive Podcast, where we simplify AI for real estate and mortgage pros who want to work smarter, close faster, and scale with less stress. This week, hosts Ginger Bell and George Chevalier welcome Scott Payne, Chief Growth Officer at Shape, for a deep dive into the real-world impact of AI — from empo…
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Episode Two: Smarter Connections, Bigger Results with Shawn Ready at AI Advantage Agency
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22:12In this episode of the AI Beehive Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and George Chevalier sit down with Shawn Ready, Chief Marketing Officer of AI Advantage Agency, to explore how mortgage professionals and real estate agents can harness AI to connect smarter, market better, and grow faster. Shawn introduces Hyperscale, their proprietary AI-powered platfor…
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Episode One: Unlocking Income Intelligence with Paul Gigliotti, Chief Growth Officer at Prudent.ai
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23:14In this insightful episode of The AI Beehive Podcast, hosts Ginger Bell and George Chevalier welcome Paul Gigliotti, Chief Growth Officer at Prudent.ai, to unpack how AI is revolutionizing income evaluation and borrower qualification. Today’s borrowers aren’t one-size-fits-all. From fractional executives and gig workers to entrepreneurs and self-em…
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The guest of this episode is Adam Fish, co-founder and CEO of Ditto, a end-to-end syncing platform with a focus on resilient connectivity. In this conversation Adam shares the origin story of Ditto, his prior related work on Realm and the hard networking problems that Ditto is solving. Mentioned in podcast: Adam Fish: X + GitHub Realm Ditto Links: …
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The guest of this episode is Tanner Linsley, creator of the TanStack ecosystem including projects such as React Query and TanStack Router. This episode will talk about the newest project, TanStack DB and explore the problems it’s trying to solve and how it works. Mentioned in podcast: Tanner Linsley: X + GitHub TanStack TanStack Query TanStack DB L…
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#24 – Ben Holmes: Astro, Simple Sync Engine & Warp
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1:11:05The guest of this episode is Ben Holmes, a senior web developer and educator known for his whiteboard videos. After having spent most of his career building server-centric applications, Ben recently explored local-first software by building a simple sync engine which we talk through in-depth. Mentioned in podcast: Ben Holmes: Website + X + YouTube …
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#23 – Sujay Jayakar: Dropbox, Convex
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1:08:15This episode's guest is Sujay Jayakar, co-founder of Convex and early engineer at Dropbox. In this conversation, Sujay shares the story of how the sync engine powering Dropbox was initially built and later redesigned to address all sorts of distributed systems problems Mentioned in podcast: Sujay Jayakar: X + GitHub + Bluesky + Linkedin Convex Drop…
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The guest of this episodeis Paul Butler, founder of Jamsocket and creator of the Y-Sweet project. This conversation will delve into building vs buying a sync engine and explore the various projects behind Jamsocket including Plane, Y-Sweet and ForeverVM. Mentioned in podcast: Paul Butler: Website + X Jamsocket Learn Yjs Y-Sweet Plane ForeverVM You …
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#21 – Seph Gentle: Google Wave, eg-walker, creativity, AI
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1:29:46The guest of this episode is Seph Gentle, a prolific software researcher who is behind projects such as the new eg-walker paper and ShareJS, one of the oldest local-first open source projects. Before, Seph also co-created Google Wave over 10 years ago which will be explored in-depth in this episode. Mentioned in podcast: Seph Gentle: Website + X CR…
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#85 Don't Just Do Something, Sit There! AI Takes Over The Pod
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11:13Meditation has had a profoundly positive impact on my life. I've been writing about it over on Medium, but I wanted to test out a new AI feature, so I uploaded 3 blog posts I did about starting a meditation practice and asked AI to turn it into a podcast. So, neither of the people talking are me, heck they aren't even people. I think if you listen …
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The guest of this episode is Adam Wulf, the engineer and solopreneur behind Muse, a local-first canvas-based tool for thought. This conversation will get trough the evolution of Muse as a product, company and people who made it, reflecting on the joys and struggles of building software as a team of one. Later, the conversation will dive deep into t…
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#19 – Brooklyn Zelenka: UCAN, Beehive, Beelay
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1:11:10The guest of this episode is Brooklyn Zelenka, a local-first researcher and creator of various projects including UCAN and Beehive. This conversation, will go deep on authorization and access control in a decentralized, local-first environment and explore this topic by learning about UCAN and Beehive. Later, the conversation will also diving into B…
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Special episode: Apps vs Files with Gordon Brander, Peter van Hardenberg & Jess Martin.
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1:09:10This is a special episode which was recorded as a Twitter space conversation between Gordon Brander, Peter Van Hardenberg, and Jess Martin. This conversation explores the ideas and trade offs of apps versus files. Mentioned in podcast Gordon Brander Peter van Hardenberg Jess Martin Links: Website: localfirst.fm X/Twitter: x.com/localfirstfm YouTube…
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#18 – James Arthur: ElectricSQL, read-path syncing, PGLite
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1:06:33The guest of this episode is James Arthur, founder and CEO of Electric SQL, a Postgres-centric sync engine for local-first apps. This conversation will dive deep into how Electric works and explore its design decisions such as read-path syncing and using HTTP as the network layer to improve scalability. Towards the end we are also covering PGLite, …
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#17 – Kyle Simpson: Local-first identity
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1:32:10The guest of this episode is Kyle Simpson, a prolific JavaScript engineer and author of the book You Don’t Know JS. Over the past years, Kyle has been researching user identity and encryption in a local-first context which we explore in depth in this episode. This conversation will dive into the story that led Kyle to local-first including what he …
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The guest of this episode is Anselm Eickhoff, creator of Jazz and founder of Garden Computing. This conversation will dive deep into Jazz to learn how it works and which use cases it’s a good fit for by exploring various apps already built on top of Jazz. Mentioned in podcast Anselm Eickhoff: x.com/anselm_io / anselm.io jazz.tools Garden Computing …
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#15 – Tuomas Artman: Linear, sync engines, rethought startup MVP
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1:01:18The guest of this episode is Tuomas Artman, co-founder and CTO of Linear. Prior to Linear, Tuomas had already built sync engines for over a decade at companies like Groupon and Uber. This conversation will explore how local-first and software quality was crucial for Linear’s success and how the concept of a startup MVP should be rethought. Mentione…
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Beehives, Greek Wisdom, & Invisible Hands: Pursuing Emergent Optimism with Byron Reese Part I
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1:17:39Byron Reese is a futurist and an optimist. His new book We Are Agora: How Humanity Functions as a Single Superorganism That Shapes Our World and Our Future is named after the Ancient Greek marketplace and suggests that we might be part of a bigger entity that shapes our ends. Does the book have the insights we need to revitalize a sense of optimism…
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#14 – Matthew Weidner: Architectures for Central Server Collaboration
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57:26The guest of this episode is Matthew Weidner, a computer science PhD student at Carnegie Mellon University focussing on distributed systems and local-first software. Matthew has recently published an extensive blog post about architectures for central server collaboration which is explored in depth in this conversation comparing different approache…
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Begin Again, Gattaca, Jerry Maguire and a course-correction quest
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1:22:33Hello again. The podcast has been on hiatus for a bit. I'm bringing it back in video form at least for a limited season. In this episode, I will discuss why I stopped doing the show, what brought me back, and where I hope to head in context of the films Gattaca, Begin Again, and Jerry Maguire. If you're trying to find your way or just trying to sta…
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#13 – Maggie Appleton: Barefoot Developers, AI, end-user programming
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1:05:07The guest of this episode is Maggie Appleton, a designer, anthropologist and developer who has recently explored the world of local-first by giving the closing keynote at the last local-first conf. This conversation will dive into the topics of her talk including home cooked software, the idea behind barefoot developers and how AI complements local…
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The guest of this episode is James Pearce, the author of Tinybase, a reactive data store library for local-first apps. This conversation will explore how Tinybase works including its custom query system, the various persistence and syncing integrations as well as James’ plans for the future. Mentioned in podcast James Pearce: x.com/jamespearce + sc…
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#11 – Adam Wiggins: Local-first Conf 2024
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1:02:26The guest of this episode is Adam Wiggins, who is the founder of Heroku and one of the co-authors of the local-first essay by Ink & Switch. As Adam is also a co-organizer of the first local-first conference, this conversation will reflect on the event, share our learnings and discuss a couple of key topics such as a new definition of local-first so…
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#10 – Matt Wonlaw: cr-sqlite, syncing strategies and incremental view maintenance
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1:03:36The guest of this episode is Matt Wonlaw, a prolific local-first tool builder who’s behind projects such as Vlcn, cr-sqlite and Materialite. Most recently Matt also joined Rocicorp to work on their new product. This conversation will go deep on his projects covering CRDTs, SQLite and incremental view maintenance. Mentioned in podcast Matt Wonlaw: x…
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The guest of this episode is Dax Raad, who is using local-first in multiple projects including the serverless deployment tool SST.dev, a healthcare app and an upcoming personal finance app. This conversation will explore how local-first simplifies app development, the UX and data patterns he used on and how self-hosting could empower local-first ap…
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#8 – Pirijan Ketheswaran: Kinopio, Canvas-based tools, being a solo developer
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56:42The guest of this episode is Pirijan Ketheswaran, the creator of the Kinopio, a playful, canvas-based tool for thought. He is also the co-creator of the online IDE Glitch. This conversation will go trough his journey as a creative including his time at Fog Creek and later building Kinopio as a solo developer. Mentioned in podcast Pirijan Ketheswara…
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#7 – James Long: Actual Budget, Hybrid Logical Clocks & Absurd-SQL
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1:34:11The guest of this episode is James Long, the creator of local-first app called Actual Budget and the absurd-sql project which helped to pave the way to bring SQLite back to the browser. This conversation will explore his journey of building Actual Budget including implementing a syncing solution from scratch and expanding from an Electron app to mo…
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#6 – Rasmus Andersson: Playbit, Software Quality, Data Models Tradeoffs
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1:43:44The guest of this episode is Rasmus Anderson, who helped to build many monumental products such as Spotify, Dropbox and Figma and is now working on Playbit, a local-first operating system built from scratch. This extended conversation will go deep on software quality, the tradeoffs of different data models and the importance of the web for modern a…
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#5 – Kyle Mathews: Benefits of using a sync engine, personal local-first apps, ElectricSQL
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46:40The guest of this episode is Kyle Matthews, who, in the past, founded Gatsby JS and is currently delving into local-first software. In the conversation, Kyle shares his experiences in building some small-scale local-first apps for his personal use and discusses how the utilization of a data syncing engine liberates significant development time. Men…
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#84 Life Philosophies and Gun Fights: Writing a Novel with Tom Hoisington
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38:12Today's guest is Tom Hoisington. He just wrote a novel and is an all around badass. We talked about the book, the writing process and a bunch of other stuff. If you want to get a copy of the book, the link is below. Also, Tom's IG handle is in these notes as well. Thanks as always for listening! www.amazon.com/dp/B0CV7PH9P2?linkCode=ssc&tag=onamzat…
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#4 – Martin Kleppmann: CRDTs, Automerge, generic syncing servers & Bluesky
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1:04:23The guest of this episode, Martin Kleppmann, is one of the authors of the original local-first essay. Martin has been exploring local-first software and CRDTs for over 10 years, which has led to the creation of Automerge, which we discuss in depth in this episode. This episode is also exploring the ideas of generic sync servers and the impact this …
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#3 – Geoffrey Litt: Malleable software, local state management & Riffle
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1:05:56In this episode we talk about Geoffrey's background in malleable software and how relational databases can be leveraged to build better web apps and improve data ownership. A topic he extensively investigates through the Riffle research project. Mentioned in podcast Geoffrey Litt: x.com/geoffreylitt + www.geoffreylitt.com Ink and Switch Cambria (20…
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#2 – Aaron Boodman: From Google Gears to Replicache & Reflect.net
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50:15In this episode we talk about Aaron's history in local-first, which goes back to 2008 with the release of Google Gears – the first time sqlite was added to the browser - and his perspective on where we're at now and why local-first is finally happening. Mentioned in podcast: Aaron: x.com/aboodman + aaronboodman.com en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gears_(soft…
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In this inaugural episode, I'm speaking to Peter van Hardenberg, who helped to coin and popularize the term Local First. As the director of the Ink & Switch Research Lab, he's been on the forefront of this work for the better part of a decade. My conversation with him today starts with the basics of what Local First is and why you, an application d…
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# 83 Building the Beehive w/ Jarod Beeman
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31:12Jarod and I talk about his upcoming video project. We talk about him eating burritos in front of Adam22 and how he requested to sleep next to train tracks. Check out the video here and make sure to subscribe to the channel!
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#82 What is the Greatest TV Show of All Time?
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22:07Today, I'm breaking down the potential candidates for the GOAT TV Show. I give some background, talk about why certain shows can't be the best and then give you my pick as the winner along with the top 4. This topic sparks a lot of debate. If you think I'm an idiot, let me know. Tell me what I missed. Tell me why my pick was spot on! Bring it on!…
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#80 Why Your Content Sucks and How to Fix it with Michael Richeson
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1:24:07I have admired Michael for awhile. He makes incredibly engaging content and is humble and self deprecating, a rarity in the marketing space. He openly shares how he continues to help his clients improve their engagement and make better content. Spoiler alert, it's not to get a certain type of camera. I learned a lot about how to make better content…
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#81 How to Be a Better Leader and Grow Your Twitter
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52:43Jacob is an old friend and currently works for the Salem Area Chamber of Commerce. He has been helping people improve their leadership skills for nearly a decade. He also has built a 20K plus Twitter following organically. He is a thoughtful and skilled communicator. We breakdown some of his thoughts on leadership and how he grew his social media p…
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#79 How Churches Are Navigating the Pandemic and Why Cobra Kai is Awesome!
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1:32:03Today's guest is the senior pastor at Creekside Bible Church. We have been friends for probably 20 years, but haven't talked in a long time. We reminisce, talk about his experience leading a church, and discuss the merits of Cobra Kai. We had a fun time and even if you're not into religious content, I think you'll like this episode just because Cha…
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#78 Brendon Hates the Professor and Betty White
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59:23Brendon comes back on the pod to talk about Covid in sports, why he thinks the Professor sucks at hoops and can't name one thing Betty White is in, but claims she's a legend. We also talk Yellowstone and Cobra Kai. We were all over the place, and I couldn't have had more fun! Thank you as always for supporting, listening, sharing and all that!…
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#77 Lose 20 Pounds By Breathing and Freezing, My Conversation with Colten Anderson
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39:03Over the past 3 years, Colten has become one of my closest friends. This last year, he really got focused on his health and has made huge strides. We talk about that and get into the specifics of his routine. We also talk goals, TV shows, and a bunch of other stuff. We had a good time and I played too much with my new sound effects that I figured o…
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#76 Tackling the Tough Issues with Casey Kulla, Gubernatorial Candidate for Oregon
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1:08:29The podcast is really getting a glow up. We are official now. I had a chance to talk with Casey Kulla, who is running for governor in the state of Oregon. And, I pulled no punches. We talked about the homeless crisis, the violence in Portland, the issues with police, and more. I appreciated him taking the time to have a discussion with me. You can …
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#75 How a Mustard Packet Helped Him Finish a Half Ironman, My Conversation with Jake Fohn
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1:07:26Jake and I get caught up and talk about his recent experience competing in a half Ironman in Salem, Oregon. Jake is a CPA and certified badass. We talk about his training, his time running with Nat Borchers (who he didn't know at the time), and even his Lil Eddie days. If you want to know more about him, you can check him out on IG @jakefohn. Thank…
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#74 Should You Start a Podcast? My Conversation with Matt Cox, host of the Saucetown Stories Podcast
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53:47I talk with Matt about a bunch of stuff. We talk about the origins of his podcast, what we've learned from podcasting, and the importance of good communication skills. We had a fun time and there was a lot of good info discussed. As always thank you for listening, subscribing, etc! I hope you're having a restful summer and you can check this out wh…
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#73The NBA Playoffs, 5 Questions and Steve Nash's Hairy Knuckles
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1:02:18Brendon and I are back. We break down the first week of the NBA playoffs. We then did a cool thing where he asked me 5 personal questions and then I returned the favor. We then finished with a new segment we came up with on the spot, that leads to Brendon talking about Steve Nash's hairy knuckles. We laughed a lot, shared some cool stuff and tried …
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#72 Chasing His Major League Dreams, My Conversation with Alex Emerson
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54:54Alex Emerson is an outfielder for the Portland Mavericks minor league baseball team. He shares his story of coming out of a two year retirement to tryout and make the team. He talks about his training schedule, the tryout process and what he was thinking when he hit a grand slam last weekend. He also talks about the college recruiting process. We h…
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