Success shouldn’t cost you your peace. The Hustle & Heal Podcast is where purpose-driven people come to grow—mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and professionally. Hosted by Adam Wilson, this show unpacks real conversations about ambition, healing, faith, and the balance in between. Whether you're building a brand, breaking generational cycles, or simply becoming the best version of yourself—this space is for you. 🎙️ New episodes every Tuesday 📍Available on YouTube + all major podcast platforms
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The only podcast created for volunteers and everyday leaders in smaller congregations, this show embraces small church ministry as a place where God is already at work. Founder of Small Church Ministry and the Small Church Network, Laurie J. Graham shares why small churches matter—not as a scaled-down version of something bigger, but as powerful communities with their own unique strengths. Each episode offers creative solutions to real challenges with a mix of honest encouragement, leadershi ...
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In this hilarious and heartfelt podcast, award-winning comedian Nelly Thomas and guest co-hosts offer sex, relationship and dating advice from the other side of 40. Like many people, Nelly got “Covid Divorced” after a long relationship and not only was it not a disaster, it was best for everyone involved. Turning 40 is something faced with dread by some but Nelly has a different take - this is when you really come into your own. Nelly and her guest co-hosts will help you navigate the highs a ...
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Hosted by lifelong James Bond fans – film journalist Tom Butler, journalist Tom Wheatley, and film industry professional Brendan Duffy – The James Bond A-Z Podcast is an encyclopaedic introduction to the people behind the world’s greatest spy film franchise. Each episode covers the key creatives and characters from every James Bond film from 1962’s 'Dr No' to 2021’s 'No Time To Die', talking about Ken Adam to Max Zorin, and everything in-between. The show shines a light on every aspect of th ...
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201: Do No Harm - What Churches Can Do to Support Real Healing | with Licensed Therapist Kati Quigley
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30:50In small churches, we’re often the first people others turn to when life falls apart - whether we’re on staff, leading worship, teaching kids, or serving on the elder board. In Part Two of the Do No Harm series, Laurie and licensed therapist Kati Quigley talk about what churches can do to help create more emotionally healthy spaces. This isn’t abou…
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983 - The Killing Fields feat. Jasper Nathaniel (11/3/25)
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1:16:47Jasper Nathaniel is back with another report from the occupied West Bank. He tells us about a band of West Bank settlers attacking him and locals in the olive fields of Turmus’ayya, including an old woman who was beaten unconscious on camera. He then talks about the Israeli military and intelligence’s response to the crime, the footage actually bre…
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Candidate for New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani joins us to catch up on the final few days of the campaign. Will and Zohran discuss Andrew Cuomo’s embarrassing campaign against him, how he plans to protect New Yorkers from Trump’s threatened federal incursions into the city, NYPD commissioner Jessica Tisch, and how he intends to implement his agen…
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200: Do No Harm - The Hidden Damage of Pastoral and Biblical Counseling | with Licensed Therapist Kati Quigley
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42:14When the Church tries to heal what it doesn’t understand, even good intentions can cause real harm. In this first conversation of the Do No Harm series, Laurie and licensed therapist Kati Quigley talk about the unseen damage that happens when untrained pastoral or biblical counseling takes the place of trauma-informed care. It’s not about blame; it…
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It’s a call-in show! We respond to nineteen calls ranging from serious predictions about the Trump era and beyond, the future of the Middle East, Warren Zevon stories, books for kids and high schoolers, and trying to wean a friend off H3H3. Also: gossip about John Fetterman and Jair Bolsonaro. YEAR ZERO: A Chapo Trap House Comic Anthology is back o…
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199: Church Spotlight: A Really Free Market - How One Small Church Is Reaching Its Community | with Ruth A. Popkin
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40:44In this Church Spotlight, Ruth A. Popkin shares how her small church started A Really Free Market - a ministry built on listening, not assumptions. Instead of following trends, they followed people, meeting real needs with dignity and creativity. It’s a story of simple generosity that’s reshaping how small churches think about outreach. Listen in f…
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979 - Cat People (Running For Mayor) feat. Jon Bois (10/20/25)
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1:05:04Secret Base’s sports-data auteur Jon Bois is back to preview a new series: a history and analysis of mound charges in baseball, coming this November. We talk a little bit about recent sports news including Dana White’s new boxing league, Shohei Ohtani’s generational run, and the Seattle Mariners (RIP). We then do a deep dive on former Reform Party …
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Harley Breen and Wade Duffin: Dudes, Dads and Fewls!
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58:35HARLEY BREEN AND WADE DUFFIN: DUDES, DADS AND FEWLS The best mates are back to talk mental health, parenting, healthy relationships and other stuff. A glorious episode with two of my faves. DEARNELLYPODCAST.COM: HERE SUBSCRIBE TO DEAR NELLY PLUS VIA PATREON HERE SEND NELLY A MESSAGE: HERE 1800RESPECT is A Confidential information, counselling and s…
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198: Navigating Pastoral Transition Without Losing Your Peace (or Your People)
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35:03When a pastor retires, moves, or suddenly steps away, small churches often feel lost in the in-between. If this is hitting home for you, you’re not alone. Pastoral transitions are on the rise as more pastors retire and fewer step into ministry roles. In this episode, Laurie talks with Kari Bartkus, who served on her church’s pastoral transition tea…
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977 - The Next Day feat. Ryan Grim and Jeremy Scahill
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1:28:05Drop Site’s Ryan Grim and Jeremy Scahill return to talk more about the ceasefire deal in Gaza. We discuss what finally led to this moment, whether this ceasefire will be any different than the previous ones, and the future of Gaza, Israel, and the Gulf States. We then turn to the media’s coverage of Gaza: Jeremy’s new story on The Free Press’ “debu…
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197: Reaching Young Families In An Older Church: What Small Churches Can Really Offer
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26:14If your church feels “too old” or “too small” to reach young families, this episode is packed with simple, practical ideas you can try this week. We’re talking about how small churches can connect with young families—not by doing more, but by showing up differently. It’s not about flashy programs or keeping up with trends. It’s about presence, warm…
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975 - Like a Virgin feat. Séamus Malekafzali
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UNLOCKED: ICE is Coming to a City Near You feat. Memo Torres
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43:07Will interviews Los Angeles reporter Memo Torres, whose site L.A. TACO shifted from covering food and culture in the city to some of the most indispensable and horrific coverage of ICE raids available. Memo tells us about what happens to people when they get kidnapped, covering the horrors of fortress America, and practical advice for those who mig…
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Greetings Horror Sickos,Listener, please light a circle of candles and begin to scrawl out the ancient sigils in salt, and begin the accursed chant … “Let’s All Go to the Lobby, Let’s All Go to the Lobby, and Grab Ourselves a Snack”That’s right! Spooky season is upon us and to inaugurate another edition of Ghoulvie Screamset Horrortober, Will Massa…
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PANIC WORLD: The Big Dumb Weather Conspiracy with Chapo Trap House
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1:08:38Like many things, there used to be a bipartisan consensus that in a disaster, you help as many people get through it as quickly and safely as possible. In the past 20+ years, though, we’ve seen a shift in how the right responds to climate catastrophes — including building out a robust selection of conspiracy theories from chemtrails to Flat Earth. …
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UNLOCKED: The Sumud Flotilla Interview feat. Zue Jernstedt
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24:57Zue Jernstedt joins us live from the Global Sumud Flotilla to talk to us about delivering aid to those in Gaza and weathering attacks from Israel.By Chapo Trap House
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196: Say It Louder for the People in the Back! Women, Small Churches, & Culture Change
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52:47You don’t need a title to change the culture of your church. You’re already carrying influence—whether anyone names it or not. In this Lead Well replay, we’ll talk about how emotional health, spiritual maturity, and everyday presence shift the room around us—and why that matters more than chasing status or hustling harder. What you’ll hear in this …
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973 - Cross on the Moon feat. Brendan James (9/29/25)
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1:37:40It’s Chapo—in person! Will, Felix, and Brendan James of Blowback (formerly Chapo Trap House) gather at Will’s apartment to talk about Eric Adams dropping out of the NYC mayoral race. They then read a profile of Adam Jentleson and his new PAC, Searchlight, and its novel plan to win elections by pulling Democrats to the right. Also this episode: Pete…
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195: "We’ve Always Done It This Way." The Small Church Lie That Keeps Us Stuck | with Ebonie Mukasa
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44:18Tradition can be beautiful — but when “we’ve always done it this way” becomes the default answer, it stops being wisdom and starts being a wall. In this episode, we talk about why resistant church culture burns women out, silences new ideas, and quietly drives people away. And honestly? It’s costing us more than we realize. What you’ll hear in this…
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971 - The Years of Whatever feat. Will Sommer (9/22/25)
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1:17:39Will Sommer of The Bulwark returns to Chapo to talk about the right’s reaction to the assassination of Charlie Kirk as well as his funeral proceedings in Arizona. We recap the Groyper War that preceded the assassination and the pressure it put on Kirk to move right, as well as the conspiracies surrounding his shooting. Was Israel involved? Why was …
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Alicia Sometimes: neurospicy dating, marriage and car bonnets.
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59:02Alicia Sometimes: poet, broadcaster, scientist, introvert and neurospicy queen joins us this month to talk marriage, dating and car bonnets. DEARNELLYPODCAST.COM: HERE SUBSCRIBE TO DEAR NELLY PLUS VIA PATREON HERE SEND NELLY A MESSAGE: HERE 1800RESPECT is A Confidential information, counselling and support service that is available for free, 24 hou…
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From Side Hustle to Multi-Million Dollar Business: How Faith & Mindset Fuel Success
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37:00"Connect with us! Shoot a text to The Underdog Lounge. In this episode of the Hustle and Heal podcast, Adam Wilson interviews Mercedes Eckert, a successful entrepreneur who transformed her side hustle of mystery shopping into a multi-million dollar business. They discuss the importance of spirituality in entrepreneurship, the transformative impact …
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194: Pastor. Pastor’s Wife. Volunteer. Leader. Are We Really That Different? | with Kristen Joy Humiston
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44:24In small churches, titles can build invisible walls—like pastors’ wives on one side, “regular” women on the other. Or ministry leaders here, and occasional volunteers over there. But those labels don’t tell the whole story, and they often keep us from the deep, honest community we long for. In this episode, Kristen Joy Humiston and I share from bot…
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969 - Pablo Torre Fucks Around and Finds Out feat. Pablo Torre (9/15/25)
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1:31:47In today’s two-parter, we start off with more coverage of the assassination of Charlie Kirk: what it means, possible motives, and the tidal wave of right-wing cancel culture it has wrought. Will then interviews journalist Pablo Torre of Pablo Torre Finds Out about recently unearthed collusion in the NFL, with a story that starts with Deshaun Watson…
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193: The “Strong Woman” Lie That’s Breaking Us In Small Churches | with Dee Bryce
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49:16Women have often been told to be strong, hold it together, and do it all for everyone else. But the truth? That version of “strength” is quietly breaking us — and it’s breaking our small churches too. In this episode, we name the lie, call out the pressure, and talk about a better way to live and serve. What you’ll hear in this episode: Why the “do…
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967 - Whitehat feat. Derek Davison (9/8/25)
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1:14:41Chapo Senior Foreign Policy correspondent Derek Davison is back once again to talk about the escalating possibility of war in Venezuela. We discuss the recent strike on a Venezuelan boat by Trump and his newly-Christened Department of War, a botched raid into North Korea, our collapsing relationship with India, China’s SCO summit with Russia, and c…
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The Players Club Episode 1: Metal Gear Solid (1998) - Am I My Brother’s Streaker?
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2:11:46In 1998, the world was ruled by Rayman. You could not go anywhere without seeing Rayman street art. Thousands of children died attempting to cut their own limbs off and suspend them from midair. All that changed when Solid Snake was brought into the third dimension.Brendan and Felix kick off their journey through the greatest story ever told by sur…
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965 - A Chorus Line feat. Alex Nichols (9/2/25)
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1:24:10Alex is back for some speculation about the health of Donald Trump (after his disappearance) and Rudy Giuliani (after his “not targeted” car crash). Then we turn to the weird world of Democratic Party influencers and the dark-money group secretly funding their American Girl Doll memes. Finally, we chat a little about phones in schools and Adam Frie…
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192: Women, You’re Not Too Emotional (You Might Not Be Emotional Enough) | with Becky Brown
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42:38Women in small churches often feel like we have to hold it all in or keep it together for everyone else. But shutting down emotions doesn’t make us stronger — it cuts us off from one of the main ways God shapes us. In this episode, Becky Brown and I bust the myth that emotions are a weakness and show why they might be your greatest strength. What y…
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191: Stop Saying People Aren’t Committed - It’s Hurting Your Ministry
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32:21When people don’t show up, it’s easy to assume they don’t care. But labeling them “uncommitted” doesn’t make us stronger leaders—it just makes us bitter, burned out, and less curious. In this episode, we’re calling out the commitment myth that keeps showing up in church conversations—and talking about what it really means to lead with presence, hop…
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963 - Distractions feat. Prem Thakker (8/25/25)
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1:13:57Zeteo’s Prem Thakker joins us for a look at Trump’s takeover of Washington D.C. We talk about the impetus for the takeover, what day-to-day life in occupied D.C. looks and feels like for its immigrant communities, and the Democratic Party’s impotent response. We then look more broadly at Trump’s Fortress America, ICE’s country-wide renditions, and …
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YUGE: Good News and Bad News from Nelly!
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1:02:19NELLY IS COMING AT YOU SOLO! This month you're getting Nelly solo - fresh on the heels of her birthday, a solo holiday and a NEW LOVE. Nelly gets into some great culture shares, she talks about what it's like to start dating again at 51, and how to holiday alone. She takes some incredible listener calls and gets into a hard but necessary discussion…
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190: Grace, Bullies, & Boundaries: How To Stay In The Conversation
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35:21If you listened to Episode 189, you know we tackled the hard truth about what happens when grace gets twisted into protecting bullies in the church. This episode stands on its own — but it’s also a continuation of that conversation. We’re getting real about how to handle church conflict in a healthy, biblical way … and why the space between ignorin…
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961 - The Dogs of War feat. Seth Harp (8/18/25)
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1:33:17Journalist and author Seth Harp returns to the pod to talk about his horrifying and expansive new book The Fort Bragg Cartel. We talk with Seth about America’s forever-war machine and the global drug empire it empowers, with a special focus on the case of Delta Force officer William Lavigne, who killed his best friend before turning up dead near Fo…
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189: When “Grace” Protects Bullies: How We Confuse Avoidance With Christlikeness
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31:49Sometimes “just be gracious” is really code for “don’t rock the boat.” But when grace gets twisted into silence, avoidance, or fear, it stops looking like Jesus. In this episode, we’re talking about the quiet damage that happens when harmful behavior is tolerated in the name of patience or peace. What do you do when you’re not in charge but can’t i…
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We begin by reading the last will and testament of Anas al-Sharif, a 28-year-old journalist for Al-Jazeera that was among those slain in Gaza by Israel yesterday. We then resume our Epstein coverage, including a look at his Manhattan lair and celebrity dinner guests. Then, two pieces on venture capitalists driven insane by The Computer and a story …
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"Connect with us! Shoot a text to The Underdog Lounge. In this powerful episode of The Hustle & Heal Podcast, Adam Wilson sits down with trauma-informed coach Thalea Pretorius to unpack the layers of childhood trauma from “big T” life-altering events to the small, everyday experiences that leave a lasting imprint on your mind, body, and spirit. You…
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188: The Small Church Pay Debate: A Question That Drives Me Crazy!
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25:44That question — “Would you keep doing your ministry if you weren’t paid?” — drives me nuts. Ministry isn’t one-size-fits-all, and neither is pay. Some serve as a career, others as a calling — and both deserve respect. This episode isn’t about right or wrong; it’s about honesty, healthy boundaries, and giving yourself permission to choose what works…
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957 - Democracy Soon! feat. Osita Nwanevu (8/4/25)
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1:02:47Osita Nwanevu stops by to discuss his new book The Right of the People: Democracy and the Case for a New American Founding. Osita leads us through his case that American “democracy” as it currently stands isn’t that democratic at all. We discuss the real intentions of the founders, the actual American revolution of the Civil War, and the stalled re…
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BONUS - The Bitter Buddha feat. Eddie Pepitone
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1:02:36Will welcomes comedian Eddie Pepitone to the show for a bonus interview. They rap on keeping comedy political, celebrity sell-outs, veganism, Bill Maher vs. Billy Joel, trying to calm the rage, and of course, being Just Kids From New York. Check out Eddie’s new special at: https://veeps.com/eddiepepitoneIt is your last day to pre-order YEAR ZERO: A…
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187: When Your Church Feels Like It’s Dying: What to Do (and What’s Still True)
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42:03If your church is shrinking, struggling, or just doesn’t look like it used to—it can feel like failure. But what if it’s not? In this episode, we talk honestly about fear, change, and what actually makes a church vibrant (hint: it’s not numbers). Because while buildings close, callings don’t—and Jesus isn’t panicking. You’ll hear: Why panic isn’t a…
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Will & Felix discuss the dire starvation crisis now gripping Gaza, and the rapidly changing attitudes among certain political & media elites now that this has all apparently finally “gone too far.” We also try to keep up with Trump’s Epstein trouble as the President attempts to drown the whole thing off with old scandals and some showstopping showt…
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186: Planning Your KidMin Year | with Lauren Jackson
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29:14What if you could enter the next ministry year with clarity, unity, and a plan that actually fits your church? In this episode, I talk with Lauren Jackson from Kids Ministry Circle about how churches of any size can create a meaningful, intentional KidMin plan—and why July is the perfect time to start. Whether you're leading solo or working with a …
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953 - The Hills Have Eyes feat. Jasper Nathaniel (7/21/25)
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1:18:50TWO WEEKS LEFT to pre-order YEAR ZERO: A Chapo Trap House Comic Anthology at badegg.co/products/year-zero-1Journalist Jasper Nathaniel joins us to discuss his reporting on the West Bank and Israel’s second front in the war on Palestine. We look at the increasingly violent settler movement, Israel’s flagrant violation of international laws, the use …
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Jacinta Parsons: I'd been to paradise but I'd never been to me!
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1:12:37Jacinta Parsons: I'd been to paradise but I'd never been to me! Author and ABC personality Jacinta Parsons came out of a very long-term relationship a few years ago and swore off dating. Then she met a bloke in an airport lounge and now they're loving each other sick, mate! Jacinta's dating story is like a rom-com that wrote itself. We talk about t…
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185: Finally, A Children’s Curriculum Made For Two Or More (Literally) | with Ali Thompson
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36:35What if your small church could run a meaningful, Jesus-centered children’s ministry—even with just a few kids and a couple of volunteers? In this episode, I’m talking with Group Publishing about their brand-new Sunday School curriculum, Two or More, designed specifically for smaller churches and mixed-age groups. If you've been trying to “make it …
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951 - My Boys And In Some Cases Gals feat. Alex Nichols (7/14/25)
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1:07:56Alex back on the show today to look at the continuing fallout of Trump’s attempts to wash his hands of Epstein. From the baffled & betrayed Trump-curious internet trend-seekers, to the dyed-in-the-wool loyalists, the admin seems to have picked the absolute worst way to disarm this bomb. Plus: Greg Abbott makes a why-even-bother play to cover up Mus…
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184: Breaking Down Ministry Silos: Why Collaboration Matters in Small Churches
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28:44In this episode of The Small Church Ministry Podcast, Laurie names something many small churches deal with—but haven’t had the words for: ministry silos. You know when two ministries plan events on the same night—and no one realizes it? Or you hear about something great after it already happened? That’s a silo—and it’s more common than we think. We…
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949 - Big Beautiful Swill feat. Tim Faust (7/7/25)
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1:09:17Tim Faust returns to the show to look at the One Big Beautiful Bill Act and its dire consequences for American medicine. We discuss Medicaid as a load-bearing feature of our healthcare infrastructure, how this bill will affect millions of Americans using the program, and the potential ways forward in the wake of its evisceration. We also look at la…
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Movie Mindset Bonus - Interview With Director Ari Aster
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52:45Will & Hesse sit down with Ari Aster, director of Hereditary, Midsommar, Beau is Afraid, and the upcoming Eddington. They rap on evil movies, mixing stupid slapstick humor with pain & discomfort, creating a contemporary western out of the recent past, some of Ari’s favorite films & filmmakers, and of course…the all-consuming sense of impending doom…
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