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NerdOut@Spotify is a technology podcast produced by the nerds at Spotify and made for the nerd inside all of us. Hear from Spotify engineers about challenging tech problems and get a firsthand look into what we're doing, what we're building, and what we’re nerding out about at Spotify every day.
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New ideas and new technology are causing seismic shifts the media industry. Meet the innovators, the risk-takers and the disrupters on the front lines of change from Hollywood, Wall Street, Silicon Valley and beyond. This is the "Up Next Podcast" with Gabriella Mirabelli.
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Let's Talk Design

Andrew Miller, Mike Bifulco

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On Let's talk Design, we talk about the way design affects the creation of things we love. Hosted by Andrew Miller and Mike Bifulco, Program Director and Director of Technology for thegymnasium.com Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/letstalkdesign/support
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Anthony and Katie share some of their favorite design assets. Links mentioned: https://blush.design/ https://nucleoapp.com/ https://tabler.io/icons https://feathericons.com/ https://thenounproject.com/ https://www.streamlinehq.com/ https://klim.co.nz/ https://wakamaifondue.com/ https://simplebits.shop/collections/fonts https://open-props.style/ htt…
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What does it mean to market AI to marketers? Typeface CMO Jason Ing joins Gabriella Mirabelli to share how his team is cutting through the noise, helping brands integrate AI without disrupting workflows, and shifting the focus from flashy tools to real outcomes. Learn how agentic AI is changing content creation—and why marketers are uniquely positi…
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Out-of-home advertising is delivering stronger results than many digital-first channels. Dan Levi, EVP & CMO of Clear Channel Outdoor, shares insights from a five-year study with Kantar that proves OOH drives awareness, intent, and brand favorability—and amplifies the impact of other media. Learn how marketers can measure performance, optimize crea…
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Is the agency world oversupplied—or just under differentiated? In this episode, Gabriella Mirabelli speaks with Robin Bonn, CEO of Co:definery and author of Market of One, about why most agencies struggle to stand out—and how they can fix it. They discuss the myths of procurement power, why "our people" isn't a strategy, and how smart specializatio…
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YPulse Chief Content Officer MaryLeigh Bliss shares the latest insights into how Gen Z and Millennials are reshaping entertainment and news consumption. From YouTube's dominance to TikTok's growing role as a news source, Bliss reveals what young audiences are watching, how they engage with content, and who they trust. Discover what today's viewing …
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Anthony and Katie are joined by Andreas Møller, co-founder of Nordcraft. Nordcraft aims to bring design and development closer together, and as you can imagine Andreas has a unique perspective on design tools. What happens to "hand-off" when designers can get their ideas 90% there? Find Andreas on Bluesky Hosts: Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product D…
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Spotify is in the middle of a big shift in modern computing: moving from x86 processors to Google’s new ARM-based Axion chips. This isn’t just a hardware swap — it’s a disruptive change with ripple effects across performance, efficiency, and sustainability. In this episode, we sit down with Mo Farhat, Group Product Manager for Google Compute Engine…
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Subscription businesses live and die by churn—but its impact goes far beyond lost customers. In this episode, Professor Barak Libai discusses research he and his colleagues conducted that reveals how churn reshapes growth, revenue, and market potential -- and what that means for anyone building or investing in a subscription model.…
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Anthony and Katie are joined by Virginia Howlett, author of Visual Interface Design for Windows and one of the first interface designers at Microsoft. Virginia is also an artist, and her paintings can be found on her website https://www.virginiahowlett.com/. We discuss what it was like being a designer 30 years ago (spoiler: some things haven't cha…
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What makes consumers truly love a brand? In this episode, Allison McClamroch, Head of Brand US at Zeno Group, shares insights from Zeno's latest research on brand love and loyalty. Discover how generational values, social media influence, and cultural relevance shape brand relationships—and what brands must do to earn and keep loyalty in today's co…
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In this episode, Welf Weiger, Associate Professor of Digital Marketing and Chair of the Marketing Department at Alfaisal University, joins us to discuss research he and his colleagues conducted on social media marketing and customer engagement. Together, their work uncovers surprising findings about how brand advocacy and criticism influence not ju…
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Anthony and Katie answer a few listener questions. Questions asked: https://x.com/hobdaydesign/status/1961014039368110395 Hosts: Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman…
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This episode explores the evolution of Josh Dorfman's personal brand in sustainability, from The Lazy Environmentalist to climate-tech ventures like Plantd and Supercool. Josh shares how authentic storytelling, strategic pivots, and mission alignment shaped his journey — and how he's used his platform to engage new audiences with climate solutions.…
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Anthony and Katie attempt to define big vs. small software, and then compare the two. Hosts: Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman
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Hear about the journey behind building Spotify’s AI knowledge assistant, aka AiKA — from hack projects to internal chatbot, to enterprise developer tool. While general purpose chatbots are being used everywhere, they often fall short when it comes to navigating company-specific information — like which internal policy applies to your team or where …
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Struggling to cut through the noise of today's media? In this episode, Kira Shishkin, CEO of informed, shares how his minimalist, SMS-based news service delivers unbiased, ad-free updates that resonate with busy professionals and Gen Z alike. Discover how informed is redefining news consumption (and marketing) in the age of information overload. If…
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Explore the hidden flaws in A/B testing on platforms like Google and Meta. In this episode, marketing professor Johannes Boegershausen reveals why ad delivery algorithms often undermine true randomization and what that means for marketers and researchers. Learn why platform-based test results shouldn't be over-extrapolated—and how to run more relia…
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Anthony and Katie are joined by Lance Willett, Chief Quality Officer at Automattic. There's a lot packed into this hour long conversation, but a few things we touch on are: - Measuring and championing quality in distributed teams - Navigating feedback culture and team dynamics - Balancing craft, context, and care in product development Hardik Pandy…
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In this episode, YPulse's MaryLeigh Bliss discusses Gen Z and Millennials' renewed interest in in-person events. She shares key trends from YPulse's latest report, including venue preferences, the rise of brand pop-ups, and how brands can create immersive, shareable experiences. Learn what young consumers want from real-life events, and how your br…
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Anthony and Katie discuss the elements of previous MacOS versions that stand out most. Inspired by: https://aresluna.org/frame-of-preference Hosts: Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerm…
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In this episode, leadership expert Mike Peterson, author of Leading in the Age of Digital Disruption, shares actionable strategies for navigating rapid change in today's workplace. Discover how trust, transparent communication, and accountability can empower leaders to drive clarity and performance during digital transformation. A must-listen for p…
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Anthony and Katie chat about Apple's Liquid Glass. Hosts: Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman
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Anthony and Katie are joined by HCI PhD candidate Matt Beaudouin-Lafon at UCSD, and discuss how HCI research intersects with industry product design. Links mentioned: Matt's work on Color Field Ink & Switch Textoshop Creativity Support Tools paper from Ben Shneiderman Hosts: Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twi…
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In this episode, YPulse's MaryLeigh Bliss shares fresh insights from two new reports on Gen Z and Millennial behavior around AI and social media. The conversation explores surprising declines in major platform use, the rise of smaller, community-driven apps, and how young people are embracing AI as a helpful tool rather than a threat. It's a reveal…
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In this episode, Adrian Palmer, professor of marketing at Henley Business School, discusses his research, published in IJRM, on anticipation in consumer behavior. He focuses on the often-overlooked period between the moment of purchase and the experience of the product or service. This "anticipation effect" plays a significant role in shaping custo…
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Anthony and Katie chat about Material 3 Expressive. Hosts: Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman
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This episode features Mason Breeding, a talent manager in the gaming creator economy, discussing how gaming influencers are changing digital marketing. He explains what brands get right and wrong when working with creators and stresses the importance of authenticity and community. Breeding also talks about the value of long-term partnerships and sm…
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In this episode, Doug Hall, founder of Eureka Ranch and Brain Brew Distillery and a recognized innovation expert, discusses his book, "Proactive Problem Solving." He shares practical strategies for identifying and resolving challenges using systems thinking. Inspired by Dr. W. Edwards Deming, Hall emphasizes engaged leadership and empowering those …
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Anthony and Katie chat about Config 2025. Talks mentioned: Writing is designing The maximalist theory of minimalism Hosts: Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman…
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In this interview, YPulse's MaryLeigh Bliss shares insights from their advertising/marketing effectiveness and DEI reports, highlighting that social platforms are the key drivers of purchase decisions for young consumers. The conversation emphasizes the power of authentic, user-generated content and touches on young consumers' strong commitment to …
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Unlock your creative potential with the "Be Silly" strategy. In this interview, Tatiana Karpukhina and Jiabi Wang discuss their research showing how intentionally generating silly ideas can break cognitive fixation and lead to more innovative solutions. Learn how to apply this simple yet powerful technique to boost creativity in both personal and p…
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Anthony and Katie are joined by design engineer Alex Krasikov to discuss .. you guessed it, design engineering. Alex Krasikov: https://x.com/alex_krasikau Hosts: Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLange…
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An interview with Professor Jochen Hartmann about the use of generative AI in marketing, specifically focusing on comparing AI-generated images to human-created ones. Hartmann discusses research involving various AI models like DALL-E-3, Midjourney, and Firefly, and the surprising findings about their performance in aesthetics, realism, and effecti…
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Photography expertise for personal branding and business success. In this interview, Rana Faure, a seasoned photo industry executive, shares how to select the right photographer, prepare for effective headshots, and create a compelling visual strategy for your business. Get advice on stock vs. custom photography, event coverage, and understanding i…
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Anthony and Katie discuss navigation patterns. Hosts: Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman
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MaryLeigh Bliss of YPulse shares insights into the latest social media trends and consumer behaviors among Gen Z and millennials. She breaks down platform usage, video content preferences, the growing popularity of Pinterest, and TikTok's role in trend discovery and social shopping. The discussion also dives into the unique traits and spending habi…
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Entertainment industry leader Steve Kazanjian talks with Gabriella Mirabelli about Social Department, an AI platform transforming content libraries into social media gold. Explore how to maximize marketing ROI, reach new audiences, and leverage legacy content with cutting-edge AI technology.By Gabriella Mirabelli
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Anthony and Katie define the process of decision making as it relates to design. Anthony's post: https://x.com/hobdaydesign/status/1904449738084094138 Hosts: Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman…
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Last year Spotify launched a big update to the app: a new typeface. For most of us, changing fonts is easy. It’s just a dropdown menu away. But creating a whole new typeface and then rolling it out across 45 unique platforms, and over 2,000 types of devices spread across 200 brands – that’s not so simple. This brand new font is called Spotify Mix a…
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In this episode, Dr. Ana Valenzuela, Professor of Marketing at ESADE Business School in Barcelona, discusses a meta-analysis of consumer responses to artificial intelligence (AI) over the past two decades. The conversation explores the evolving attitudes toward AI, the factors influencing consumer resistance, and strategies businesses can use to bu…
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In this interview, Meghan Kirsch, an Emmy and James Beard award-winning media executive, shares her experience of transitioning from B2C to B2B marketing. The conversation focuses on how to apply consumer-focused strategies to a business environment, emphasizing that at the end of the day, you're still communicating with people. Meghan stresses the…
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Anthony and Katie discuss some differences and similarities between design and development. Hosts: Anthony Hobday, Generalist Product Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/hobdaydesign⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Katie Langerman, Systems Designer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/KatieLangerman
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