Welcome to your go-to podcast for all things retreat leadership - where the team behind Retreat Ranch shares real talk, expert strategy, and behind-the-scenes stories to help you run a profitable and powerful retreat business. From crafting unforgettable guest experiences to avoiding expensive mistakes, we cover it all with a mix of wisdom, wit, and a little woo. Whether you're a seasoned retreat leader, venue owner, or dreaming of launching your first event, this show is your compass to bui ...
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EP 241 Planning Purpose-Driven Retreats with Amity Cooper of 1890 & Wayfinding Ranch
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24:26In this episode of The Retreat Leaders Podcast, Shannon Jamail sits down with Amity Cooper, a licensed mental health professional turned ranch retreat host in Colorado. Together, they dive into the world of nature-based retreats, horse-led healing, and the business foundation every retreat leader needs to succeed. Amity shares her transition from p…
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[FIXED] EP 240 Running Retreats as a Couple: Behind the Scenes at Blisstopia Retreats with Mark and Lana Royce
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36:49In this episode of The Retreat Leaders Podcast, Shannon sits down with Mark and Lana from Blisstopia Retreats to talk about what it really takes to co-facilitate powerful retreats—and build a business together without losing your minds (or your marriage). Mark and Lana share their journey from psychotherapy and martial arts to running over 60 retre…
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EP 240 Running Retreats as a Couple: Behind the Scenes at Blisstopia Retreats with Mark and Lana Royce
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36:28In this episode of The Retreat Leaders Podcast, Shannon sits down with Mark and Lana from Blisstopia Retreats to talk about what it really takes to co-facilitate powerful retreats—and build a business together without losing your minds (or your marriage). Mark and Lana share their journey from psychotherapy and martial arts to running over 60 retre…
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EP 239 Beyond the Logo: Branding That Sells Retreats with Kara Hollinger
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20:50Your brand is more than a logo—it's the energy, clarity, and trust that sells out your retreats before you even open registration. In this episode, Shannon sits down with Kara Hollinger, founder and creative director of Made Outside, to explore how powerful branding and a cohesive online presence directly influence retreat success. They dig into: W…
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Outgrowing Clients & Owning Your Worth as a Retreat Leader with Raisah Bickram
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31:19In this empowering episode of The Retreat Leaders Podcast, Shannon Jamail is joined by retreat host and business coach Raisah Salima Bickram for a deeply honest conversation about evolution, alignment, and energetic pricing in the retreat world. Together, they unpack what it means to outgrow clients, roles, and retreat formats—and how to move forwa…
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EP 238 Beyond the Retreat: Hybrid Business Models for Maximum Impact with Alison Katschkowsky
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19:01Can you build a retreat business that isn’t bound by location—and actually expands your impact? In this episode of The Retreat Leaders Podcast, Shannon chats with long-time health and fitness expert Alison Katschkowsky about building a hybrid retreat business model that combines the power of in-person transformation with the scalability of online p…
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EP 237 True North Leadership: Building Profitable Men’s Retreats with Brent McCann
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22:02In this episode of The Retreat Leaders Podcast, Shannon sits down with Brent McCann, founder of the True North Retreat, to talk about the rising tide of men’s retreats—and what it takes to make them successful and sustainable. Brent shares how he transitioned from corporate HR into the retreat space, the lessons learned from his first Sedona retrea…
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Why Most Retreat Leaders Fail to Sell Out — and How to Fix It with Erin Haag
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30:30Retreat not filling up? You’re not alone—and it’s probably not your price. In this power-packed episode, Shannon Jamail is joined by pricing and profit strategist Erin Haag to break down the real reasons most retreats fail to sell out—and exactly how to fix it. From outdated marketing approaches to misaligned pricing strategies, they unpack the bli…
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EP 236 From Sold-Out to Profitable: Mastering Retreat Marketing & Loyalty with Leni Cavazos
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31:20Most retreat leaders aren’t just undercharging… they’re under-profiting. In this powerhouse episode of The Retreat Leaders Podcast, Shannon Jamail is joined by Leni Cavazos—event strategist, loyalty marketing expert, and former Ritz-Carlton powerhouse turned retreat business mentor. Together, they unpack why up to 90% of retreats aren’t actually pr…
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EP 235 Who Do You Need to Become? When Your Retreat Planning Isn’t Working
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12:09Hey retreat boss—it’s time for a heart-to-heart. In this solo episode, Shannon Jamail gets real about a truth that most retreat leaders avoid: 👉 If your retreat planning isn’t working, it’s not just your strategy—it’s your identity. Whether you’re dreaming of your first retreat or you’ve been in the game for years, this episode is your wake-up call…
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EP 234 Scroll-Stopping Content: Retreat Marketing with a Social Media Pro with Alessia Tenebruso
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18:37In this episode of The Retreat Leaders Podcast, Shannon Jamail is joined by Alessia Tenebruso—founder of One Girl Travel, retreat content creator, and social media strategist—for a juicy convo on how to create social media that actually converts. Alessia shares the importance of having a dedicated content creator or social correspondent at your ret…
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EP 233 Lead Retreats Without Losing Yourself: The Joy Factor with Kelley Hartman
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20:25In this heartfelt and empowering episode of The Retreat Leaders Podcast, host Shannon Jamail sits down with Kelley Hartman to explore the transformative power of joy in retreat leadership. Kelley shares how a life-changing diversity retreat in her twenties sparked her passion for holding space and eventually led her to create her own retreats focus…
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EP 232 Lessons from a First-Time Retreat Host: What I’d Do Differently with Misty Chambers
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21:15In this candid episode of the Retreat Leaders Podcast, Shannon Jamail sits down with Pilates studio owner and retreat host Misty Chambers to unpack the highs and lows of her first-ever retreat. From a surprise challenge with a sick guest to navigating meal budgets in the Champagne region of France, Misty shares everything she wishes she had known—a…
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EP 231 Algorithm-Proof Your Retreat Brand: Social Media That Sticks with Robin Nathaniel
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27:44In this episode of The Retreat Leaders Podcast, Shannon Jamail is joined by social media strategist and author Robin Nathaniel (@robbinmarx) to dig into what it really takes to build a retreat brand that thrives online—without having to chase every trend. Robin brings two decades of experience in social media and shares how to focus on authentic, a…
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EP 230 It’s Not the Economy—It’s You: Owning Your Retreat’s Value & Selling with Confidence
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14:52In this fiery solo episode, Shannon Jamail gets real about a truth many retreat leaders need to hear: the biggest block in your retreat business isn’t the economy—it’s you. If you’ve ever said, “People just aren’t spending right now,” or felt tempted to lower your prices just to fill spots—this one’s for you. Shannon breaks down the mindset shift t…
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EP 229 How to Level Up as a Retreat Leader (and Build Profitable Retreats Like a Boss)
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10:58In this solo episode, host Shannon Jamail gets fired up and shares exactly what it means to level up as a retreat leader—and why it goes way beyond fancy goodie bags or extra plush pillows in your yurt. Fresh off a transformative retreat teaching experience in France and actively learning from high-level masterminds like Genius Network, Shannon lay…
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EP 228 Dealing with Objections as a Retreat Leader: Compassion Over Discounts
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11:22In this powerful solo episode, Shannon Jamail gets real about something every retreat leader will face: objections. Especially the most common one—“It’s too expensive.” But before you spiral into discounting or self-doubt, Shannon shares a refreshing and aligned way to navigate objections with confidence, compassion, and curiosity. This episode is …
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EP 227 Sell It Like a Retreat Leader: Why Sales Should Be Your Superpower with Dora Rankin
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21:15In this bold and enlightening episode of the Retreat Leaders Podcast, Shannon Jamail sits down with Dora Rankin, a business growth coach and sales strategist who isn’t afraid to tell retreat leaders the hard truth: you’re likely spending way too much time on marketing and not enough on sales. Dora breaks down the key differences between sales and m…
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EP 226 Delegate & Elevate: Why Every Retreat Host Needs a Coordinator with Daesha Donze
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19:57In this powerhouse episode of The Retreat Leaders Podcast, host Shannon Jamail sits down with luxury retreat designer and director Daesha Donze to talk all things logistics, style, and sanity-saving support for retreat hosts. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed trying to juggle planning, hosting, and actually enjoying your own retreat—this episode is y…
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EP 225 Boundaries, Burnout & Breakthroughs: Retreat Wisdom with Lesley Martin
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25:35In this powerful episode of the Retreat Leaders Podcast, host Shannon Jamail welcomes trauma therapist and retreat coach Lesley Martin for a raw and insightful conversation about the emotional resilience and energetic boundaries required to lead transformational retreats. Lesley and Shannon dive deep into the often overlooked emotional toll retreat…
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EP 224 The Power of Story: How to Sell Out Retreats with Authentic Marketing featuring Renee Frojo
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22:39In this inspiring episode of the Retreat Leaders Podcast, host Shannon Jamail sits down with journalist-turned-content-marketer and storytelling coach, Renee Frojo, to explore how powerful storytelling can transform your retreat business from “meh” to sold out. Renee shares her journey from the newsroom to coaching B2B and B2C entrepreneurs on conn…
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EP 223 Hug the Cactus: Leadership, Conflict & Fierce Clarity in Retreats with Adrian Koehler
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27:39In this powerful episode of the Retreat Leaders Podcast, Shannon Jamail welcomes executive coach and consultant Adrian Koehler, a leadership expert with a bold approach rooted in emotional intelligence and unapologetic honesty. From "hugging the cactus" to "riding the elephant," Adrian shares what it really takes to lead high-impact retreats and te…
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EP 222 Mastering Sales as a Retreat Leader: Techniques and Insights with Jacob Hicks
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20:51Episode Summary: Join us on the Retreat Leaders Podcast as we dive deep into the art of selling with Jacob Hicks, a seasoned success coach with a decade of sales experience. In this enlightening episode titled "Mastering Sales as a Retreat Leader: Techniques and Insights with Jacob Hicks," Jacob unpacks the essential skills every retreat leader nee…
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EP 221 Overcoming Subconscious Blocks in Retreats with Terrie Christine
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31:47In this enlightening episode of the Retreat Leaders Podcast, host Shannon Jamail sits down with Terrie Christine, an intuitive energy healer whose transition from a corporate career to mastering the subconscious realm has transformed many lives. This discussion dives deep into how Terrie uses her unique skills to help individuals overcome subconsci…
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EP 220 Move, Market, Connect: Dynamic Retreat Strategies with Ricardo Topete
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22:38Dive into an energizing episode of the Retreat Leaders Podcast where host Shannon Jamail connects with Ricardo, a vibrant videographer, photographer, and dance enthusiast from Philadelphia. Explore how Ricardo uses dance as a powerful tool for fostering community and connection in retreat settings. Episode Highlights: Embracing Dance in Retreats: S…
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EP 219 Retreat Marketing Magic: People and Great Partnerships with David Schafran
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28:58Welcome to another episode of the Retreat Leaders Podcast, where today's guest, David Schafran, shares his unique journey from healthcare technology to founding Somo Loco, a company dedicated to dance immersions and retreats. Join us as we delve into how David transitioned to a more embodied practice and the crucial role of partnerships in growing …
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EP 218 Revolutionizing Retreats with RoseAda Marie
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29:40Welcome to a captivating episode of the Retreat Leaders Podcast, where host Shannon Jamail engages with RoseAda Marie, a dynamic leader who is transforming the retreat landscape. Dive into the innovative world where wellness meets strategy, and discover RoseAda's unique approach that marries membership models with transformative retreat experiences…
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EP 217 Beyond the Vacation: Crafting Transformative Retreats with Alison K
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26:46Dive into a captivating discussion on the Retreat Leaders Podcast where host Shannon Jamail and the dynamic Alison K., a seasoned health and fitness expert turned business mentor, unwrap the world of retreats. Discover how Alison transitioned from running fitness studios to guiding wellness entrepreneurs in monetizing their passions through both in…
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EP 216 Safeguarding Your Retreats with Lawyer Sarah Waldbuesser
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22:17Welcome to another insightful episode of the Retreat Leaders Podcast! Today, we're joined by Sarah Waldbuesser, an experienced trademark attorney and business owner, to delve into the critical topic of legal protection for retreat hosts. Throughout the episode, Sarah underscores the heightened liability risks associated with hosting in-person event…
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EP 215 Essential Estate Planning for Business Owners with Oscar Vasquez
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24:28Welcome to our latest episode where we delve into the crucial topic of estate planning and business continuity with Oscar Vasquez, a state planning software coordinator. This discussion is not just for personal asset management but is especially tailored for entrepreneurs who wish to secure their business's future. Estate Planning and Business Cont…
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EP 214 Harnessing the Power of Storytelling in Retreat Leadership with Aleya Harris
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22:51In this enriching episode of the Retreat Leaders Podcast, Shannon is joined by Aleya Harris, a strategic storytelling consultant renowned for helping leaders, sellers, and speakers harness the power of stories to connect deeply, find fulfillment, and enhance profitability. Shannon and Aleya dive into the transformative role of storytelling within r…
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EP 213 Exploring Mother-Daughter Bonds and Equine Yoga with Casie Hall
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19:34Join us in this insightful episode as Shannon Jamail talks with Casie, a renowned yoga studio owner and retreat leader, who shares her unique journey through the realms of yoga and entrepreneurship. Together, they delve into the intricacies of hosting mother-daughter yoga retreats and the profound impact these experiences have on participants. Casi…
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EP 212 The Art of Attraction and Repulsion: Crafting Your Retreat Website
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13:53Welcome to today's episode where we explore the pivotal role your retreat website plays in attracting the right guests and repelling those who aren't a fit. It's about more than just filling spaces—it's about creating an environment where every participant is precisely where they need to be. Why Repulsion Is as Important as Attraction In the retrea…
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EP 211 From Scarcity to Abundance with Dr. Nona Djavid
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32:24In today's episode, we dive into the compelling journey of Dr. Nona Djavid, who moved to the US at 16 and transformed her early struggles into a flourishing career by embracing entrepreneurship from a place of abundance rather than scarcity. Journey from Scarcity to Abundance: Nona shares her initial steps into entrepreneurship, which were motivate…
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EP 210 Retreats with a Purpose: How to Make a Difference While Making a Profit
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10:45Welcome to "Retreats with a Purpose: How to Make a Difference While Making a Profit," where we delve into the compelling ways retreat leaders can weave social responsibility into their business models. This episode is dedicated to those who see the potential for retreats to serve not just as gateways to personal growth but as platforms for meaningf…
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EP. 209 Opening a retreat venue in Tuscany with Franziska
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20:19Join us as we explore the enchanting world of Borgo Belsedere, a 1000-year-old medieval villa in Tuscany, Italy, transformed into a modern retreat venue by Franziska Leissner and her team. Discover how they've melded sustainability with historical charm to create a unique retreat experience. Venue Introduction: Franziska Leissner, a partner at Borg…
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EP.208 Understanding Retreat Pricing with Erin Haag
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23:02Join host Shannon Jamail as she delves into the nuanced world of retreat pricing with expert Erin Haag. They explore the dynamic between price-conscious and value-driven buyers, and the strategies for setting retreat prices that reflect the true value of the experience. Retreat Pricing Insights: Price vs. Value Shoppers: Erin outlines that retreats…
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EP. 207 Sales Mastery for Retreat Leaders with Nikki Rausch
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29:34Join us in this enlightening episode where Nikki Rausch, a veteran sales professional, unravels the intrinsic link between sales and retreat leadership. Nikki delves into the art of selling as a crucial skill for retreat leaders, breaking down common sales pitfalls and emphasizing the strategic engagement of potential buyers. Embracing the Sales Ro…
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EP. 206 Unlocking the Secrets of Successful Retreats with Chelle Swierz from Topia Retreat Center
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26:10In this enlightening episode, Shannon Jamail sits down with Shelly Swierz, a seasoned yoga instructor and the visionary behind Topia Boutique Retreat Center in Baja California Sur, Mexico. Shelly brings over 15 years of yoga teaching experience and shares invaluable insights into the world of retreat hosting. Topia's Mission and Setting Topia Bouti…
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EP 205 A Masterclass on Retreat Strategies with Kyera Kacey
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18:00In this enlightening episode, host Shannon Jamail sits down with Kyera Kacey, a trailblazer in the personal development industry since the age of 17. Kyera, who opened her first office at 24 and launched her retreat business in 2022, dives into the details of her unique approach to retreat planning. The discussion kicks off with her debut retreat i…
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EP 204 True Manifestation for Retreat Leaders
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8:46Hey everyone! Today’s episode is especially exciting because I’m sharing something I’ve been pouring my heart into for quite some time – my Manifestation Course: Unlock Your Power, Attract Your Desires, and Manifest a Life You Love in Just 7 Days! If you’re a retreat leader, coach, healer, or anyone guiding others toward their dreams, you’ll want t…
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EP 203 Crafting Stories That Sell: A Deep Dive with Mellissa Tong
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21:51Overview: In a captivating session of the Retreat Leaders podcast, host Shannon Jamail engages with Mellissa Tong, the storytelling maestro and visionary behind Duck Punk Productions. Mellissa shares her expert insights on the transformative power of storytelling in business and its critical role in connecting with audiences to drive sales. Melliss…
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EP 202 Guesting for Growth: Mastering Podcast Appearances to Market Your Retreats with Julie Fry
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21:14Unlock the Power of Podcasts: In an engaging session with Shannon Jamail, Julie Fry, the visionary behind Your Expert Guest, unveils the transformative role of podcasts in reaching precise target audiences. Julie illuminates how strategic podcast guesting can create meaningful connections and open up new avenues for entrepreneurs. Strategize Your G…
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EP 201 Leveraging LinkedIn for Retreat Success with Hailey Rowe
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19:31In this insightful episode, Hailey Rowe delves into the untapped potential of LinkedIn for retreat leaders. Known for its affluent user base, LinkedIn offers unique opportunities for making personal connections and sharing compelling stories that resonate with prospective retreat attendees. Hailey introduces her 'FAST' framework—Followers, Action, …
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EP 200 Pricing for Profit: Mastering the art of Retreat Pricing with Laura Zavelson
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33:07In this episode, host Shannon Jamail engages in a casual conversation with Laura Zavelson about the challenges retreat leaders, particularly women, face when pricing their retreats. They discuss the importance of setting prices that reflect the true value of the retreat, overcoming emotional barriers to pricing, and managing business finances effec…
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EP 199 From Woo to Why: Turning Retreat Inspiration into Real-World Action with Debi Kinney
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19:02Join host Shannon in this enlightening conversation with Debi Kinney, the innovative CEO of Hello Coaching. Debi introduces her transformative workshop, 'Woo to Why,' crafted to help retreat attendees channel their newfound inspiration into concrete, actionable goals. Workshop Insights Discover how Debi's 'Woo to Why' workshop not only enhances the…
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EP 198 Boost Your Retreat with Social Savvy: Strategic Marketing with Emma Tessler
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19:40Episode Overview: In an invigorating session, hosts Emma and Shannon dive into transformative social media marketing strategies tailored for retreat leaders. Join us as Emma Tessler, the founder of 95 MediaeV, unveils the secrets to leveraging social media to not only grow your email list but also enhance overall engagement. Diving Into Digital: Em…
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EP 197 Thrive Mode: DeDee Cai on Fusing Entrepreneurship with Self-Care
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17:23Meet DeDee Cai Shannon welcomes guest DeDee Cai, the dynamic founder of Fit to Profit, to share insights on blending entrepreneurship with motherhood. DeDee discusses the ethos behind Fit to Profit, focusing on building business success grounded in personal well-being. Self-Care: The Entrepreneur's Keystone DeDee stresses the essential role of self…
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Special Release: Integrating Equine Wisdom into Your Retreats with Kristine Palmer
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27:13Episode Overview: Join Kristine Palmer and Shannon Jamail in a captivating episode that explores the integration of equine-assisted activities into wellness programs. This discussion focuses on an upcoming Equine Assisted Retreat, specifically designed for wellness professionals looking to enrich their service offerings. Scheduled for December 3-4 …
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EP 196 Deep Dive: Enhancing Retreat Impact and Revenue with Dr. Robyn McKay
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47:03Episode Introduction: Welcome back to another engaging episode where we continue our insightful conversation with Dr. Robyn McKay. Known for her expertise in spiritual intelligence and transformational leadership, Dr. McKay dives deeper into the psychology of retreats, discussing how integration tools not only benefit guests but also enhance the bu…
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