This is Let's Talk from the Butterfly Foundation. Join your host, Yvie Jones, as we explore living with body image issues and eating disorders.
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Host Sam Ikin spent 20 years in corporate newsrooms and knows how the sausage is made and he does not want to eat it. He doesn't think you should either. So let’s dissect some news and see what rubbish we can find.
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Essential conversations with LGBTIQA+ youth about their body image
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33:40In this episode of Let's Talk, Evie Jones explores the complex realities of body image among young people, with a focus on the LGBTQIA+ community. Featuring insightful conversations with Finn Sterling, a trans youth advocate; Jeanette Chan, a young, queer lived experience researcher; and Francesca Beilharz, a clinical psychologist, the episode delv…
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The Role of Community in Eating Disorder Recovery
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32:42In this episode of Let's Talk, Yvie Jones delves into the complex journey of eating disorder recovery through the powerful lenses of lived experience. She is joined by TJ, Keely, Beth, and Grace, who share their personal stories and professional insights as they navigate the challenges and breakthroughs associated with eating disorders. TJ opens up…
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Why are women at war with their bodies (and how can we make peace)?
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32:04In this episode of Let's Talk, Yvie Jones engages in a heartfelt conversation about body image and self-acceptance as she speaks with broadcaster Myf Warhurst, research psychologist Professor Navjot Bhullar, endocrinologist Dr. Yvonne Chow, and actor and singer Mia Morrissey. Together, they delve into the complexities of body image in women, and wh…
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The eye-popping costs of appearance ideals
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25:26In this episode of Let's Talk, Yvie Jones dives into the hidden costs of body dissatisfaction and appearance-based discrimination in Australia. This discussion centres around the ground breaking "Appearance Ideals" report, commissioned by the Butterfly Foundation, to uncover the societal and economic toll of body image concerns. Joining Yvie are Sa…
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Older, Wiser – and Still Battling Body Image and Eating? We Can Help.
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39:48In this powerful episode of Let’s Talk, we shift the conversation around body-image and eating disorders beyond youth and into midlife and later. Many assume that disordered eating is a struggle faced primarily by teenagers and young adults, but the reality is that body image concerns and eating disorders can persist—or even begin—when you’re older…
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Let’s Talk: New Year’s Resolutions: Listen Before You Leap into a New Diet
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13:12In this episode of Let’s Talk, Yvie sits down with Jackson Rose, Helpline Supervisor at Butterfly Foundation, to explore the hidden risks of New Year’s resolutions. While the desire to improve or change ourselves isn’t inherently problematic, black-and-white thinking about ‘good’ and ‘bad’ behaviours—particularly around food and exercise—can carry …
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Spot your mate! How men can support one another against toxic body ideals
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45:01In this episode, Yvie explores the challenging issue of body image pressures facing men and, with her guests, examines how toxic standards impact male self-perception. How can men support one another and challenge these harmful expectations to create greater body acceptance and more compassionate spaces for their own bodies and others? Joining Yvie…
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In this episode of ‘Let’s Talk’, Yvie dives into a meaningful conversation about body image and eating disorders, specifically within multicultural communities. Despite the pervasive nature of eating disorders across backgrounds, unique cultural and linguistic barriers can often amplify the challenges for those seeking support and understanding. Yv…
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A GP’s guide to navigating Eating Disorders with compassion and care.
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31:31In this episode of "Let's Talk," our new host, Yvie Jones, speaks with Dr. Preeya Alexander about the vital role of General Practitioners (GPs) in supporting patients with body image issues and eating disorders. Dr Preeya shares her unique insights into how GPs can build trust with their patients, collaborate with specialists, and navigate the chal…
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How Body Kind Online Education can transform your child’s online experience
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32:22In today's digital age, young people are constantly bombarded with images and messages on social media that can deeply impact their wellbeing, including their body image. Navigating this landscape can be challenging, both for young people and the parents, carers, and educators who support them. How can we guide young people through the ever-evolvin…
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Why are we red flagging men and their fitness goals?
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27:53The myth that eating disorders only affect women means there are still too many men who aren’t getting help. While it’s great to see more women accepting and celebrating their bodies for the way they were born to be, body image issues and eating disorders are mental health issues that do not discriminate. The difference is that they often look diff…
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All you need to know about the Butterfly National Helpline
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19:33There can be shame, guilt and fear attached to a struggle with one’s body or eating, not to mention confusion about whether you, or your loved one, may have a diagnosable or treatable problem. These are just some of the reasons why too many people don’t ask for help. It’s a pity, because talking to a professional can be life-changing. That’s why th…
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Updating the 8 Keys to Recovery with Carolyn Costin
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34:47Carolyn Costin is one of the most well-known names in eating disorder recovery treatment. Her book, Eight Keys to Recovery from an Eating Disorder, is a pioneering work that was published more than a decade ago and is still regarded as a central text in the field. Some people think of eating disorders in terms of addiction, with programs to activel…
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In depth with Dr Sarah Trobe: Fertility, your body and eating concerns
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25:30Going through fertility treatment can be a nerve-wracking and sometimes demoralising experience. When it’s coupled with a past or current eating disorder, the whole process can be even more complicated. Why? “Fertility difficulties and going through fertility treatment can increase the risk of an eating disorder, but also, eating disorders can impa…
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Parents - Ask Me Anything about your teens' body image
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35:04A staggering ninety-five percent of young Australians aged between 12 and 18 are experiencing some level of body image concern, and more than half are unhappy with how their body looks. That’s according to Butterfly’s second Body Kind Youth Survey. With body dissatisfaction playing a significant role in the development of eating disorders, it’s not…
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A peer worker on how your own experience can be the key to recovery for others
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24:50The concept of including peers in your treatment team, that is people who have recovered from a similar health experience to yours, is not new in healthcare. Alcoholics Anonymous, for example, has successfully engaged the support of recovered people—called sponsors—since the 1930s. However, until recently, the model of care has remained quite uncom…
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In Depth: Dr Carly Roukos on life at Wandi Nerida residential treatment centre
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27:12Improvements in quality of life and reduced healthcare costs are just some of the benefits uncovered in a Monash University study of Australia’s only residential treatment program for people struggling with eating disorders. Wandi Nerida, based on Queensland’s Sunshine Coast, provides a unique model of holistic, person-centred, inpatient care. As t…
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In Depth: Butterfly's head of research and policy on the new community insights report
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23:44Please note: This episode was briefly published prematurely on the 4th of April. If you listened to it then we apologise for the repeat. If you’ve ever wondered what the public in Australia knows and thinks about eating disorders and body image issues, this episode will put all your questions to rest. We unpack the latest findings from Butterfly's …
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Ouch: The eye-popping costs of an eating disorder
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28:27We often talk about the psycho-emotional costs of eating disorders for those living with them; but up to this point, we haven’t learned much about the costs to society. Now we know. Since 2012, there’s been a shocking 36 per cent increase in the economic burden of eating disorders to the people of Australia. In the meantime, 1.1 million people in t…
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Introducing the podcast I've been working on quietly for the past year or so, The World's End with Sam Ikin. Follow the audio podcast on this platform by searching The World's End with Sam Ikin or find your preferred link here https://tr.ee/awQRiRqtX_ You can also follow the show on: YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@the-worlds-end Rumble https://ru…
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If you've experienced trauma you could be at risk for an eating disorder
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26:25We should let you know that this episode discusses sexual abuse and comes with a trigger warning. It's about trauma, which is an individual’s response to an event or series of events that have deeply disturbed their sense of safety, security, or well-being. While research shows a clear intersection between trauma or post-traumatic stress disorder (…
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In Depth with Harvard’s change maker Professor S. Bryn Austin
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24:47This month we’re talking to a distinguished social epidemiologist and behavioural scientist at the Harvard Chan School of Public Health. Her name is Professor Bryn Austin, and her research focuses on public health approaches to eating disorders. Our conversation begins with an overview of the web that connects consumer culture, corporate exploitati…
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Under-diagnosed and poorly treated: Eating disorders in larger bodies
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27:16We’re talking about the higher-weight paradox, particularly when well-meaning health professionals can trigger an eating disorder or make one worse. Not everything health issue is solved by losing weight, yet that is what people in larger bodies too often hear. Worse, numerous people living with eating disorders remain undiagnosed and untreated bec…
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S1E9: Grace and forgiveness propaganda and fighting globalism with more globalism
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26:15Welcome to a new episode of The World's End with Sam Ikin, the show about news for people who hate the news. In this episode, host Sam Ikin delves into the world of wartime propaganda and how it impacts our understanding of global conflicts, like the Israel-Palestine situation. We shed light on the tragic manipulation of Shani Louk's family by medi…
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ANZAED 23: Still more to learn from the latest in research
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32:09At the recent Australia and New Zealand Academy for Eating Disorders conference on the Gold Coast, we spoke to experts about new and groundbreaking insights into eating disorders. This episode is the second in a series of two. Dr Simon Wilksch unpacks his work around the significant financial and emotional costs that families face when caring for c…
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In depth with lived experience advocate Shannon Calvert
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24:27The key to understanding any mental illness is to listen to those who have been through it. Not only can the voices of those with lived experience of an eating disorder help those who are currently impacted, but they also, importantly, serve to educate the health professionals who will provide care. The evidence is clear: Services that are co-desig…
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The latest in diagnosis and care from the annual ANZAED conference
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30:19We snuck into the annual Australia and New Zealand Academy for Eating Disorders (ANZAED) conference to illuminate the future of eating disorder diagnosis and care. We recorded on-site at the conference, where we asked various speakers to give us a taste of their research for the sake of all those who’d be interested but couldn’t be there. Segment 1…
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In depth with former helpline manager Juliette Thomson on person-centred recovery
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25:26According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, the DSM-V–also known as the psychiatrist’s bible–there are only four official diagnoses for eating disorders. Though experts expect that number to double in the next edition, the reasons someone might develop or maintain an eating disorder are as variable as the number of peopl…
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What medications can help you recover from an eating disorder?
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36:03There’s a medication for almost every illness, and that’s true for mental illnesses, including eating disorders. But how do they work, and how do they help? We’re launching our fourth season of Butterfly: Let’s Talk with an investigation into medications used to treat people with eating disorders, including some brand-new developments that could of…
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What 1600 young people told us about their body image
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27:46The results from the new Butterfly Body Kind Youth Survey are in, and they’re concerning. More than 1600 young people aged 12-18 took part in the survey, with at least half saying they were dissatisfied with their bodies. About one in three kids say they’re completely dissatisfied with the way that they look. "The problem is there’s a real cost to …
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Meet the three MPs committed to better care for eating disorders
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26:52In February this year, ABC dedicated their flagship investigative report, Four Corners, to eating disorders. This was, in part, because of a few Members of Parliament. The MPs are Teal Independent Zoe Daniel, Liberal Andrew Wallace and Labor’s Susan Templeman. Based on continuous calls for help from their constituents, the three resolved to act for…
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It still hurts: Appearance-based teasing when you're a kid
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23:50Many of us remember being teased about our appearance in primary school because it happens - a lot. Perhaps we don’t think about it much now, but chances are the experience has left a mark on who we’ve become. The research is clear: Appearance-based teasing is a key risk factor for a child to develop body dissatisfaction which, in turn, can negativ…
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Dr Beth Shelton is a psychologist and long-time director of the National Eating Disorder Collaboration (NEDC), leading a team that develops national standards for preventing and treating eating disorders and works actively to build the system of care. As a highly respected professional in the field, we asked Beth to explain the different diagnoses …
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Welcome to Smash My Pod. This series is currently in development, and this is the only place to find it. This is a joint production from Sam Ikin and Dan McHugh, two journalists jaded by decades of work in Australia's disastrous news media. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.By Sam Ikin
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All about #BodyPride as an LGBTQIA+ human
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25:16We’re all subject to continuous appearance-based pressures which impact our self-worth. The LGBTQIA+ community is no different. In fact, it’s a community that faces unique challenges regarding pressures that affect body image. And, for some people, it can escalate during Mardi Gras season. “People will go on a big shred or a big diet for the month,…
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S2E3: Poorly Thought Through Politics - Thank heavens for the WEF
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37:54WE'RE BACK. Stewart Morris joins the show again to discuss the horrific loss of the world's best authoritarian leader, Jacinda Ardern. To be clear, she's okay, she's just resigning because she wants to "spend more time with her family." We also dive into the amazing future our benevolent overlords at the World Economic Forum have decided they will …
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In depth with early childhood body image expert Dr Stephanie Damiano
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24:14It goes without saying that we want to give our young children the best start. We also know from years of research that negative body image can impact almost all life outcomes – including relationships, education, and careers. So how do we protect our children from developing a negative body image? And when should we start? The answer could shock y…
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How can we be kind to our bodies this summer?
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26:07The summer holidays usually come with some expectations. We meet the extended family for a holiday meal. We wear fewer clothes in the summer heat. We make new year’s resolutions pushed by the diet industry. We smile and nod at the inevitable comments about our appearance from well-meaning family members. And we’re expected to find all of this a joy…
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S1E2: How to handle angry people without it affecting you
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40:56How do you handle angry people, who get all up in your face, without it affecting you? We have no idea, but that won't stop us from talking about it. If only you could flick a switch and turn off tens of thousands of years' worth of evolutionary fight-for-flight conditioning. Maybe Elon Musk will solve that for us too. One person who chose flight o…
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S2E1: Season Two Premier - Hard times create strong men
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49:27Warning!! This episode contains cuss words. Mum, maybe skip this one. Stewart Morris joins us in the studio to talk about the ridiculous way some journalists are carrying on about the US midterm elections, which are being held this week. We specifically make fun of one of Australia's top journalists after a cringe-worthy attempt to take on Trump en…
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In Depth on Perfectionism with Prof Tracey Wade
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20:47The drive for perfectionism is unusually common in people experiencing body image issues and eating disorders. Perfectionism is quite different from the drive to improve, which is an appropriate and healthy desire. Perfectionistic people, however, believe that "perfect" is possible—and the problem is that it's not. This sets up the perfectionist fo…
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In Depth with occupational therapist Dr Elysa Roberts
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26:34In this episode, we sit down with occupational therapist Dr Elysa Roberts to discover why OT can be effective in treating eating disorders. First, what is an occupation? It’s generally defined as “any activity in which one engages”, which means it’s a lot more than just a job. An occupation can include eating, exercising, working, shopping, sociali…
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Young people and body image - all we don't know
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32:34As parents or carers of young people, we like to think we know what's important in young people’s lives. But there's no way to tell what's really going on in their heads. If we're trying to understand young people as a group--their perspective in relation to the world and the culture right now--it's even harder. That's where Mission Australia's You…
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Liz Dale is a Worimi Woman and Doctor of Psychology whose work involves Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people’s lived experience of eating disorders and body image concerns, as well as Aboriginal approaches to wellness and care. A holistic approach is becoming increasingly accepted as key to ongoing recovery. However, many of us steeped in W…
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Where's the limit to enhancing your looks?
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31:34Paying attention to your appearance is a very human trait. And though we talk about accepting our bodies and learning to love them, most of us still think about our image a lot. We're not the only species that groom,” says researcher and clinical psychologist Deb Mitchison. “Most species are interested in how they look so it's not a drive that I th…
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In depth with body acceptance advocate Bella Davis
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16:04A few years ago, Isabella Davis impulsively took a photo of her body and posted it to her Instagram account. It was an act of defiance. She was sick of being told she wasn’t good enough, that she needed to go on a diet, or that she should aspire to a particular body shape or size. “My feed was just full of perfectly posed images, which are great, b…
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It’s the most basic of questions and the one most often asked on the Butterfly Helpline: How do you know it’s an eating disorder? “If you’re even considering that there might be an eating disorder going on,” says Dr. Simon Wilksch, senior eating disorders research fellow at Flinders University, “it’s likely there’s something happening that’s worth …
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How's life when your sibling has an eating disorder?
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27:38If a person experiences a mental health issue, most people know that their family is also affected in varying ways. In this podcast, we look at the impact of eating disorders on siblings – how they feel about their brother or sister’s eating disorder, how they feel about their sibling’s experience, what support they feel able to offer, and what sup…
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In Depth with CEO, National Mental Health Commission, Christine Morgan
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29:27Before she was the CEO of Australia’s Mental Health Commission, Christine Morgan served for 10 years as CEO of Butterfly. And to mark Butterfly’s 20th anniversary, she sat down with Sam Ikin for an in-depth review of eating disorders in Australia. Their conversation included the state of awareness, research, diagnosis, and treatment options - first…
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S1E5: Election special - six weeks of public relations with Chris Glassock and Topher Field
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43:06The day before the federal election, we ask what we've gained from the last six weeks of election campaigning. Reformed journalists Sam Ikin and Chris Glassock analyse the horrendous bombardment of spin and public relations messaging that Australia has been subject to and try to see if there's any sense in it at all. Sam says "Public relations and …
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