A podcast where we talk all about what it's really like to make a living from the things you make. Featuring candid interviews with other ceramicists and makers, as well as helpful business tips to make your side-hustle into a life-giving, viable business.
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With lots of enthusiasm and very little know how, Emily and Maddie love chatting about gardening, often with a glass of wine or cocktail in hand. In each fortnightly episode, we speak to people who inspire us in the garden, in order to unearth some much needed knowledge.
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Each week, Emily Bahnson, founder of Wondrous Crane dives into the mysterious world of launching and running a small business. Featuring Manifesting Monday and weekly interviews with other Minnesota makers and beyond, join Emily in uncovering honest truths and pleasant surprises along the way. With rotating weekly topics including crystals & spirituality, Twin Cities art fairs, financial & product management, learn from others who have made the leap. Founded in 2017, Wondrous Crane is a Minn ...
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Ep 627: Where are They Now - Two Years In with Yvonne Rausch (Part One)
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51:08Send us a text The romanticized image of going full-time as a maker often glosses over one crucial reality: you'll spend as much time problem-solving your business as you do creating, and the mental resilience required might surprise you more than the financial challenges. What if the key to thriving long-term isn't just having enough savings or de…
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Nikki Husted - Purely Chickens // Homesteading, Chicken Life (And Death), Gardening with Chickens, Lindt Ball Hot Choc
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59:39Nikki Husted, aka Purely Chickens on Instagram, has been on our Dream Interview List for a very long time. Nikki is a former public school teacher turned chicken guru, who educates and entertains a community of like-minded chicken fanatics about all things poultry and homesteading. In 2023 she released her book Chicken Keeping Pure and Simple, brin…
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Ep 626: The Art of Adapting with Jena McNerney
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1:36:11Send us a text Could it be that we've been thinking about this all wrong? That it's not the "real job" on one side of life and the dream of making art full-time on the other, and that eventually, we have to choose? Because when we really look at it, are the most sustainable creative careers, from the artists we admire the most, actually built on ei…
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Sue Stuart-Smith // From 'outdoor housework' to The Well Gardened Mind, Gardening for Mind & Body, the Power of Flowers, The Barn Garden
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44:55Welcome to the first episode of our little mini winter series. We'll be talking about the birds and the bees, the mind and fruit trees. Thanks for being here. First up, we're having a fan girl moment chatting to Sue Stuart-Smith. Sue is a psychiatrist, psychotherapist and author of The Well Gardened Mind – a Sunday Times Bestseller. Sue originally …
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Ep 625: Iterating for a Target Audience with Will Donovan (Part Two!)
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49:19Send us a text The internet loves to talk about that magical “six figure business” milestone, but what if hitting that revenue number doesn't actually change your life the way you think it will? What if the real transformation happens when you stop chasing someone else's definition of success and start building systems that serve your actual goals—…
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Ep 624: Iterating for a Target Audience with Will Donovan
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1:05:33Send us a text As makers, we often start with a vision of success that's more fantasy than strategic roadmap—believing that if we just work harder at making our beautiful pieces, it will somehow lead to a sustainable business. But what if the path to actually thriving as a creative is in repeatedly narrowing your focus, rather than doing more and m…
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Ep 623: Side Sauntering with Melisa of MWY Pottery
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55:34Send us a text As makers, many of us feel pressure to choose between our creative passions and a more traditional career - but what if that's a false choice entirely? What if taking your craft seriously doesn't require abandoning a career you are equally passionate about? Melisa's journey from taking her first clay class as a 40th birthday gift to …
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Ep 622: When 90% of Your Revenue Comes from Pottery Alone with Heidi Fahrenbacher
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1:26:04Send us a text Recently there's been a lot of talk around whether or not you can make a full-time living as a studio potter, and most stories you'll hear about those who are seen as "studio potters" involve teaching regularly, running workshops, providing rental space for other artists, or maintaining multiple income streams beyond just making pots…
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Ep 621: Can You Make a Living from a $45 Mug?
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26:57Send us a text Can you make a viable living from creating a wheelthrown mug that you charge $45 for? According to a video currently racing around the internet, the answer is no. But is that true? According to some of the past potters I've talked to here on the podcast over the last 4 years, that answer would be no, that's not true. In fact, they ar…
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Ep 620: Protecting Your Artistic Voice with Martha Grover
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1:18:10Send us a text What happens when we approach our artistic development not as lightning-bolt inspiration but as intentional practice—exploring the minute details that fascinate us while carefully choosing which external voices we allow to influence our work? Throughout her 23-year career, Martha Grover has done just that, and the iconic look of her …
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Ep 619: Building a Creative Practice Across Continents with Eva Champagne
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1:13:38Send us a text As makers, we often believe that stability - often in the form of continuous access to the same studio and materials - is essential for building a creative business, but Eva Champagne's nomadic journey reveals a different path. Throughout our conversation, Eva shares how she's built a ceramics practice while constantly relocating - f…
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Alex Elliott-Howery // Pickling, Courtyard Gardening, Telepathic Bay Leaves, Mushrooms, Preserving, Cornersmith
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Ep 618: A Journey to Gallery Ownership with AnnMarie Cooper of Good Earth Gallery
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1:05:23Send us a text As makers, we often envy others' seemingly polished creative lives without seeing the winding path they took to get there. AnnMarie Cooper's journey from gallery employee to pottery gallery owner, cohorts program manager, and shared studio founder reveals how real artistic careers evolve through countless iterations - from taking com…
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BONUS EPISODE // Flower Photography with professional photographer Sam Shelley
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32:29Samuel Shelley is a Tasmanian-based photographer specialising in food, commercial, lifestyle & ad photography. What he often leaves off his bio is his partnership in the family-run, Tassie based business Veggie and Flower Garden Seeds that his sister Bec founded in 2020. Sam is their chief photographer - amongst other things - and knows a thing or …
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Milli Proust // Seed Grower, Florist, Alma Proust, Anxiety, Drying Flowers, Compost Palace (UK)
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Send us a text Missed Part One? Listen here! Having established her community studio through careful listening and intentional growth, Amy Roadman now faces the challenge many creative entrepreneurs encounter: balancing business sustainability with personal fulfillment. What happens when you're finally the boss but struggle with pricing your work, …
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Ep 616: The Slow Growth Community Studio with Amy Roadman (Part 1)
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48:24Send us a text Transitioning from classroom teaching to entrepreneurship - In some ways it’s a huge shift, in others, it can be all too easy to maintain the old habits of overworking and prioritizing others’ needs over your own. So many of us can struggle with finding the balance between serving our communities or caring for ourselves. Is it possib…
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Lauren Camilleri // Indoor Plant Guru, Plant Doctor, Monstera, Pottery, Fungus Gnats
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Ep 615: The Importance of Mentorship with Lisa Orr
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1:15:30Send us a text Here on the podcast, we often talk about the delicate balancing act between creative fulfillment and business sustainability - a struggle that can feel overwhelming without guidance. What if finding the right mentor could be the pivotal moment that transforms your creative practice and career trajectory? When Lisa Orr sought out Bett…
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Holly Wainwright // Discovering Gardening, Therapy Lettuce, Rat Battle, Searching for Zen
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Ep 614: The Aligned Potter with Elizabeth Schlatter
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1:06:41Send us a text Many of us learn to accept the aches and pains of making as just part of the creative journey, assuming sore wrists and "potter's back" are inevitable companions to our craft. What if the physical discomfort of creating could be significantly reduced through simple awareness and intentional adjustments to how we work? Elizabeth Schla…
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Ep 613: Where Are They Now with Kara Leigh Ford
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1:23:20Send us a text As an avid podcast listener, long before I ever started this show, I was always curious about what had happened to entrepreneurs and small business owners after the interview was over. was everything still working the way they described during that interview or had things changed? On this "Where Are They Now" series, we answer that v…
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Emma Bowen // Pocket City Farms, Permaculture Orchard, Julia Ostro
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Ep 612: Being Your Own Boss with Amy Brummond of Pine Zen Potter
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1:11:03Send us a text As makers transitioning from hobby to business, we often forget the most powerful perk of self-employment: you're the boss who makes the rules, not just the employee doing all the work. What if setting clear boundaries, creating a sustainable schedule, and giving yourself permission to evolve creatively are actually your responsibili…
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Connie Cao // Urban Gardener, Asian Veggie Garden specialist, Berry Guru, Chicken Mum
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Ep 611: When Things Need to Change with Megan Sward
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1:43:34Send us a text Most of us dream of turning our craft into a thriving business, but what happens when achieving "the dream" — the large following, sold-out shop updates, and steady sales — still doesn't translate into a sustainable living? When former full-time potter Megan Sward faced this reality, she discovered that the gap between making work yo…
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Send us a text There is an underlying current of anxiety about keeping up with the latest trends and strategies, especially when it comes to running your business online (and even more especially when it comes to social media). But what if the real secret to success isn't about chasing every new thing, but rather embracing the "boring" parts of bus…
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Summer Series - Revisiting Phil Dudman - The Good Guy of Gardening (New Intro)
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54:26Welcome to our short and sharp summer series where we revisit some of your very favourite episodes. We've added an additional little intro, reflecting on our chat with Phil Dudman and general updates since then. We got so many amazing tips from Phil, and we hope you do too. Here's the original episode spiel: Buckle up ya'll, it's the final episode …
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Ep 609: Where are They Now? - Restarting through Trauma with Sarah Wells Rolland
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1:19:23Send us a text When I last spoke with Sarah Wells Rolland, The Village Potters in Asheville, North Carolina was 13 years into it’s incredible, communal existence. And frankly (at least from my perspective) was a well oiled machine. With a residency program, community classes, a gallery, and 17 kilns it wasn’t on my short list wondering “gee, I wond…
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Summer Series - Revisiting Charles Dowding - No Dig Guru (New Intro)
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48:42Welcome to our short and sharp summer series where we revisit some of your very favourite episodes. We've added an additional little intro, reflecting on our chat with Charles Dowding and general updates since then. things we've been working on since then. Gosh we loved revisiting this chat with Charles. Whether it's your first time listening, or y…
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Ep 608: The $20 Mug with Isaac Shue
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1:19:05Send us a text The ways in which our decisions in life are so interconnected it feels endless. The same is equally true in business, especially a ceramics business. And there's no way you stay in business, as a fully self-employed household with kiddos, while offering a $20 mug without thinking through all of that interconnectedness. My chat with I…
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Summer Series - Revisiting Compostable Kate (New Intro)
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57:42Welcome to our short and sharp summer series where we revisit some of your very favourite episodes. We've added an additional little intro, reflecting on our chat with Kate and composty things we've been working on since then. Compostable Kate's was a cracker of an episode. While not a sponsor of this episode, Bokashi is offering an ongoing 5% off …
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EP 607: Financial Systems with Seanin Rosario
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1:27:43Send us a text When it comes to the topic of money, for many of us, it stirs up less than happy feelings. But in many ways, money is just data. Yes, it has an outsized effect on our lives and the decisions we do (or can) make, and that’s annoying as stepping on Legos. But, as much as we can feel a variety of emotions around money, finances are actu…
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Ep 606: Not your usual year end recap {The Launch}
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22:58Send us a text I had thought this solo episode would be some nice big grandiose end of year recap for you. I also, had intended it to actually air in 2024, but alas… here we are, kicking off 2025 with it. The plan was lists of what worked and what didn’t in our ceramics business this year and a nice, reflected wrap-it-all-up and make-it-make-sense …
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Ep 605: Finding Your Niche with Sue McLeod
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1:15:19Send us a text A self-described “failed production potter” Sue McLeod still very much makes her living from ceramics. Yet, she doesn’t make her living from actually making pots… As is true with any industry, we often forget just how many different supporting and tangentially related sub-topics and professions there are available to us. And, at leas…
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Diego Bonetto // Edible Weeds, Foraging, The Weedy One, Cape Weed, Dandelion, Mulberry, Mushrooming
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59:07We snuck a bonus episode into season 3 - and what a cracker it is. We're chatting to Diego Bonetto, aka The Weedy One. Born in Italy, Diego grew up foraging for dandelion, wild asparagus and mushrooms. It wasn't actually foraging as such, it was just how you lived. Since moving to Australia, Diego has taken foraging and edible weeds on as his caree…
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Ep 604: Working with Intention with Bill Schwenzer of Aliveguy Pottery
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1:34:39Send us a text Described as the most supportive guy on the internet by numerous people, today’s interview with Bill Schwenzer feels long overdue. Better known as Aliveguy Pottery, we talk about his career transition from corporate quality control to clay, his commitment to thoughtful encouragement online and his unique approach to delayed gratifica…
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Natasha Morgan / Daylesford, Tree Change, Wicking Beds, Autism, Preserving, Finding Community
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Petrina Blooms // Ranunculus, Slow floristry, Designing Your Garden Spaces, Roses, Creating a Bouquet
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48:49--This episode is proudly sponsored by Bokashi One. Reduce landfill and boost the efforts in your garden in a fuss-free, no-smell way. Enjoy 15% off the entire Bokashi One range by using the promo code AG15 when purchasing from www.bokashi.com.au between now and 1 Jan, 2025-- When Petrina Burrill was in grade six, she wrote, ‘When I grow up I want …
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Ep 603: Receiving Delayed Attention with Stanley Tong
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1:10:18Send us a text I reached out to chat with Stanley after seeing his “Thoughts and Prayers” series - a powerful body of work creating strong visuals on the actual effects of a bullet striking a form. A series, he actually made more than a year ago. And yet, only recently and quite suddenly, has gotten quite a lot of recognition. We talk about how the…
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Ep 602: The Catharsis of Supporting Others with Tim Clark
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1:25:18Send us a text If you weren’t learning how to carve intricate designs in sourdough bread in 2020, odds are, you might have been learning how to make pottery. And while this is true for today’s guest, Tim Clark, that wasn’t all. Tim also was learning how to make pottery and navigate the rest of life after a spontaneous tear of the retina left him ha…
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Matthew Evans // Gourmet Farmer, Fat Pig Farm, Soil Health, Growing Veggies, Wicking Beds, Grounded Australia
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Ep 601: Staying Okay (even when your business isn’t) with Clare Barboza of Poppy Bee Surfaces
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1:17:13Send us a text How do you stay okay even when it doesn't feel like your business isn't going well? Because while we might feel pulled to log the long hours and push ourselves to "work harder" to "grind it out," in reality, we can't really come up with new, interesting, creative solutions when we're exhausted or stressed or frankly, freaking out. As…
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{Replay} Ep 206: Why Your Sales Results have Nothing to do with the Value of Your Work
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41:45Send us a text We're quickly approaching the holiday season and makers around the world are hustling to get their listings online and take advantage of increased sales during this time of year. But what if your sales aren't going as planned? What if you haven't sold as much as you'd hoped? What if you haven't sold ANYTHING? What does it all mean? O…
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{Replay} Ep 116: Real life vs. Instagram with Sophia McEvoy
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54:34Send us a text Do you ever think about what happened BEFORE the Instagram photos? Or BEFORE your favorite potter hit 25 thousand followers? Off and on, many people will talk about the real-life vs. Instagram life, and there are plenty of hilarious memes floating around the internet about them, but I’d wager a bet that while many of us (myself inclu…
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Huw Richards (UK) // Welsh countryside, Impact Planting, Hot Beds, Weeding, Composting
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59:59We came across Huw Richards perhaps the odd-way around, first picking up his amazing book 'Veg In One Bed' before discovering his huge online presence. Huw has been gardening since the age of 3 on his parents' smallholding in mid-west Wales. He started a YouTube channel aged 12, which has since received over 100 million views. Huw's gardening is dr…
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{Replay} Ep 217: The Social Responsibility of Businesses (and side-hustles)
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44:27Send us a text Our work as artists can feel disconnected with the immediate needs of the world. On this week’s solo episode, I’m peeling back the curtain on how I process that for myself. Alongside my originally planned episode of discussing a few of the various business models you can choose in order to create a business that serves your life and …
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{Replay} Ep 123: Alex Matisse of Eastfork Pottery on the Importance of Vision
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53:40Send us a text How do you go from a farm with a woodfire kiln and two potters to an industrial warehouse that already feels too small? Vision. And a bit of luck. At least, that's what worked for Alex Matisse, founder of the one and only Eastfork Pottery. On this episode, Alex shares insights into the pros and cons of growing such a large, successfu…
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Hannah Maloney // Permaculture, Hedgerows, Rhubarb, Asparagus, Flower Power,
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46:13We’ve had Hannah on our list for a looooong time, so it’s a bloody thrill to have interviewed her. Hannah Maloney is the inspiring force behind Goodlife Permaculture, an organisation all about sharing concepts of education, community and design to help people create good lives and landscapes. Hannah is a host on Gardening Australia on ABC, a best-s…
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{Replay} Ep 125: Mental Health & Finding Your Community with Katie Meili
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1:17:46Send us a text We’re taking a quick season break but in the meantime, enjoy this chat from way back in Season 1 that I had with Katie Meili. We chat about the difficulties of mental health and how it feels when life takes unexpected turns that throw you off a path everyone else around you is on, the silver linings that brought us to clay, and the i…
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