"Behind the Screens" is a podcast that brings you up close and personal with the people in the background screening industry. Hosted by Les Rosen, each episode features in-depth, human-interest interviews with a diverse range of guestsāincluding business executives, employees with extensive screening experience, vendors who serve the industry, and legal and compliance experts. These conversations dive into the personal stories and insights of those who know the industry best, offering a fres ...
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Pillow Talk Sessions Podcast is the go-to podcast for exploring the future of hospitality and serviced living. Co-hosted by Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski and brought to you by the team at Abode Worldwide, each episode features insightful conversations with pioneers shaping the built-to-rent, co-living, PBSA, later living, multifamily and hospitality sectors. Each episode explores the transition from simply providing spaces to creating value, community, and experiences. We discuss ...
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Sarah Canning and Deenie Lee of The Property Marketing Strategists have teamed up with Daniel Smith of Student Housing Consultancy to discuss the latest news, views and insights in the shared living sector. Each episode they will be delving into a wide variety of subjects and asking the questions which aren't often asked. This podcast is a must for anyone working in Student Accommodation, BTR, Co-Living, Operational Real Estate or Shared Living.
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Has the 25/26 season been tough for PBSA? Should void beds be a Plan A? Later living housing targets, Uni mergers, The impact of a new housing secretary. Do more 18 year olds going to uni mean more in ...
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47:20Send us a text Sarah, Dan and Deenie are back with a brand new season of Housed, dissecting and discussing some fresh new topics from the world of shared living. This week insights: - The impact of the new Housing Secretary - Why does affordable just mean 'old'? - More 18 year olds going to uni = more in student accommodation? - Why has the 25/26 sā¦
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Episode 46: Behind the Screens with PBSA Chairs: What Really Happens Behind PBSAās Gavel
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55:08Send us a text Think carrying the PBSA gavel is all formality and boardrooms? Think again. When three Chairs sit down together, you get a mix of wisdom, war stories, and a few moments that prove even industry leaders donāt take themselves too seriously. In this episode, I bring together Tim Gordon, Chad Ascar, and Scott Maloneyāthe current chair, tā¦
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Driving Building Performance with Jonathan Burridge (Utopi)
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51:14In this weekās Pillow Talk Sessions, Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski sit down with Jonathan Burridge, Founder & CEO of Utopi, to explore how his company is helping operators cut costs, reduce carbon, and improve resident engagement through data-driven technology. š” Highlights include: ā” How Utopi uncovered 1,400% energy consumption variancā¦
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Episode 47: Transforming Background Screening in India with Chetan Desai
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36:17Send us a text What do background screening, the Indian Army, and vinyl records have in common? On the surface, nothingāuntil you meet Chetan Desai. From serving as a weapons instructor and mountaineer to founding one of Indiaās first background screening firms, Chetanās story is proof that discipline, curiosity, and just a little obsession (with bā¦
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Why London's Student Housing Market Plays by Different Rules - recorded LIVE in partnership with Fusion
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27:31Send us a text Sarah, Dan and Deenie are joined by Chris Cater, Richard Ward and Sarah Turner-Jones to talk about the London Masterplan. This episode was recorded in-front of a live audience at opening of the new Fusion PBSA building in Brent Cross Town. The panel discuss why London is treated so differently to the rest of the UK: - How are differeā¦
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The Future of Smart Stays with Dr. Josef Vollmayr (Limehome)
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47:13In this weekās Pillow Talk Sessions, Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski sit down with Josef Vollmayr, Co-Founder & Managing Director of Limehome, to explore how the company is reshaping hospitality across Europe with efficiency, design, and digital-first operations. š” Highlights include: š Why most travelers now value clean, functional stays ā¦
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Episode 45: How Catherine Aldrich Brame Shaped Accreditation & Industry Standards in Background Screening
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42:52Send us a text What if the very foundations of background screeningāthe databases, the processes, the standardsāwere shaped by someone who once started out answering phones as a young mom just trying to make it work? Thatās the story of Catherine Aldrich Brame. From building the first national criminal databases at CDB Infotech, to scaling Accurateā¦
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Episode 44: She Said āShort-Term Stopā, Background Screening Said āLifetime Contractā ā Susie Thomsonās Journey
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48:35Send us a text What does leadership look like when itās built on resilience, curiosity, and an unwavering belief in people? For Susie Thomson, it looks like a career that has taken her from the ground floor of her family business to the top ranks of global background screening. She helped create Security Watchdog, guided its growth through acquisitā¦
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Cultivating Tomorrow's Leaders: Building Bridges Across PBSA featuring Kelly-anne Watson, Romy Levin and Jon Badge
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44:39Send us a text The final episode in this special mini series with The Class Foundation and we are asking āHow do we cultivate the PBSA sector leaders of tomorrow?ā Dan and Sarah are joined by Kelly-anne Watson of The Class Foundation as well as two brilliant leaders from the sector marketing expert Romy Levin and Jon Badge of We are Homes for Studeā¦
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From Leases to Loyalty: Reimagining Rentals with Kevin Murphy (Renew)
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39:53In this episode of Pillow Talk Sessions, Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski sit down with Kevin Murphy, Co-founder & COO of Renew, to explore how multifamily operators can turn one of their biggest weaknessesārenewalsāinto a relationship-driven advantage. š” Highlights include: šļø Why renewals should start on day one, not 60 days before expiryā¦
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Episode 43: Dare to Disrupt: Four Innovators Share Bold Visions for the Future of Screening
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52:29Send us a text What happens when you take four professionals from different corners of the background screening industryāeach with unique expertise, bold ideas, and a willingness to shake things upāand put them together on one stage? You get disruption. In this special episode, I sit down with Andrew Cashman, Tressa Fullard, Kevin Horval, and Oakleā¦
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Episode 42: From āTemporary Jobā to Lifelong Calling: Bobby Shankās Journey in Background Screening
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41:36Send us a text What if the path you thought would be temporary turned out to be the foundation of a lifelong calling? Thatās the story of Bobby Shank. With a degree in finance and even a chapter of life spent in Costa Rica, Bobby never expected that joining his familyās business, Roundstone, would anchor him in the background screening industry forā¦
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The Collaboration Revolution in European Student Housing Featuring Kelly-anne Watson and Frank Uffen from The Class Foundation
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37:53Send us a text In episode two in this three-part mini series we are focusing on regional frameworks and some of the lessons learned from the key four markets of the UK, Italy, Spain and the Netherlands. Dan, Deenie and Sarah are joined by Kelly-anne Watson and Frank Uffen to discuss: ⢠National action frameworks being developed to coordinate housinā¦
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Everything Is Hospitality ā A Vision for Vertical Living with Philip Grace (Bob W)
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52:07In this weekās Pillow Talk Sessions, we go behind the brand with Philip Grace, CDO at Bob W, to unpack the companyās vision of hospitality-first, asset-light, and tech-forward living across Europe. š” Inside the episode: šļø Bob Wās vertical villages that combine apartments, workspaces, restaurants, and rooftop pools š¤ How strategic partnerships beatā¦
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Episode 41: Michelle Leblond: The Strategic Mind Behind Background Screening Excellence
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55:17Send us a text Imagine a professional who lives and breathes accuracy, thrives under the weight of compliance, and leads teams through constant industry evolutionāthen drop her into the challenging arena of public records and high-stakes client expectations. Thatās Michelle Leblond, a master at turning complexity into clarity. In this episode, Michā¦
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Episode 40: The Screening Industry Through Les Rosenās Eyes
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1:02:15Send us a text How does a criminal defense attorney end up transforming the background screening industry? In this special 40th episode, I take a turn in the guest seat to share my unexpected journeyāfrom representing clients in the courtroom to founding Employment Screening Resources and writing one of the earliest FCRA compliance manuals. Along tā¦
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Reinforcing Student Accommodation in Europe with special guests Frank Uffen and Kelly-anne Watson from The Class Foundation
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37:37Send us a text Housed has partnered up with The Class Foundation to bring you a special three-part mini series, getting under the skin of the importance of student housing strategy across Europe and warming the shared living sector up for the The Class Conference 2025 taking place in Lisbon this November. In this episode 'Reinforcing Europe', Dan, ā¦
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Designing the Future of Urban Living with Nuno Jorge Trigo (FEEL GROUP)
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43:05This week on Pillow Talk Sessions, hosts Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski sit down with Nuno Jorge Trigo, Co-Founder & Co-CEO of FEEL GROUP, to discuss how the company is reshaping hospitality through its vertical building model. š” Key insights include: šļø How combining co-working, serviced apartments, and events is changing the way we liveā¦
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Episode 39: Summa McCosker: Building a Global Background Screening Empire from the Ground Up
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40:43Send us a text What kind of person can turn a local startup into a global standard-setterānavigating legal landscapes, scaling teams, and staying human through it all? Thatās the kind of trailblazing journey we explore in this episode. In this episode of Behind the Screens, I had the privilege of sitting down with Summa McCosker, a dynamic force inā¦
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Episode 38: The Man Behind the Screening Curtain: Curt Schwallās Legacy on Education and Compliance
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44:05Send us a text Can one person transform background screening by mastering compliance, reshaping operations, championing public access, and still give back through mentorship and public service? Meet the man doing exactly that, and discover how leadership is built one deliberate choice at a time. In this episode, I sit down with someone Iāve known sā¦
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Audience Q&A Special: Is BTR better than PBSA? Is the Uni Resi Experience still Relevant? What do Neurodiverse Residents Need? And Rental Growth vs Ops Budgets.
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41:22Send us a text For the last episode in season four of Housed we opened the floor to our listeners and asked them to send in any questions. A huge thank you to Matt Burton of UPP, Seb Horst of Host, Benjamin Hall of LOFT, Noella Colingridge and Tom Ferber of HOMIE for contributing. Sarah, Dan and Deenie discuss: - Is a uni residential experience stiā¦
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A Vision for Flexible Living with Ed Ellerington (Packaged Living)
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45:48This week on Pillow Talk Sessions, hosts Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski welcome Ed Ellerington, Founder & CEO of Packaged Living, to explore what it really means to bring a customer-first, tech-smart, and vertically integrated mindset to rental housing. š” In this episode: šļø Why the UK needs garden living and better single-family rental oā¦
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Episode 37: Nancy Alt Explains Why Compliance Begins with People, Not Paper
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48:08Send us a text What does it take to shape an entire industry from the inside outāwhile mastering compliance, leading operations, and serving the public good? It takes vision, grit, and a whole lot of hatsāand this episode is proof of exactly that. In this episode, I sit down with Nancy Alt, founder of Tweak the Core, whoās spent decades navigating ā¦
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Are we failing at training our People? Sales in PBSA v Leasing in BTR (and which one is right?) Building the 50,000 later living homes needed and we explore AI with The Class Foundation Community Hubs ...
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36:30Send us a text Technology should be transforming the shared living sector, with AI presenting both opportunities and challenges for marketing professionals across PBSA and BTR. We explore how artificial intelligence will reshape property operations while emphasizing the human skills needed to thrive in this changing landscape. But without the rightā¦
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Episode 36: Dawn Standerwick: The Powerhouse Who Knows Every Corner of Background Screening
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31:57Send us a text What do you get when you combine relentless curiosity, unmatched versatility, and a passion for people? You get Dawn Standerwickāa powerhouse in the background screening industry whose career defies simple titles. From onboarding and marketing to compliance and criminal records, sheās worn every hat and rocked them all. In this episoā¦
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Controversy about Housing Supply, Comparing Glastonbury to Shared Living, Having it all and Why are Affordable Rooms only for University Nominations?
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43:31Send us a text The Housed Podcast team examines sustainability in shared living by comparing Glastonbury Festival's impressive renewable energy achievements with the current state of PBSA and BTR sectors, questioning why purpose-built accommodation struggles with basic green initiatives. ⢠Many PBSA and BTR operators pay lip service to sustainabiliā¦
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Reimagining the Student Experience with Suraiya Comunello (Nido Living)
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40:10This week, weāre joined by Suraiya Comunello, CMO at Nido Living, for a deep dive into what truly matters to todayās studentsāand how operators can meet those expectations through service, design, and wellbeing. From cultural contrasts in booking behavior to the rise of digital-first decision-making, Suraiya offers a rare, international perspectiveā¦
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Episode 35: The Background Screening Puzzle: How Kathleen Nottingham Turns Complexity into Career Growth
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41:40Send us a text How do you transform operations, compliance, and public records into a career you loveāand lead others to love it too? Kathleen Nottingham didnāt just find her path in background screening; she built it brick by brick, puzzle by puzzle, from public record researcher to SVP at ScoutLogic and a seat on the PBSA Board of Directors. In tā¦
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Latest Impacts For Universities and PBSA, The Building Safety Act Process, Viable Options For Later Living, The Coliving vs Studio BTR Terminology Debate PLUS Ask The Expert Feature on the Renters' Rights ...
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42:35Send us a text Sarah, Dan and Deenie are back for episode 65, this week's episode covers: How UAE student restrictions are sending shockwaves through the UK university system. Several institutions falling outside the global top 200 rankingsāincluding UCLan, City University, and Heriot-Wattānow face losing hundreds of international students who provā¦
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Episode 34: Just Get It Done ā Larry White on Leadership, Legacy & the Future of Screening
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34:55Send us a text From rural Oklahoma to boardroom strategy sessionsāhow does one man turn old-school values into modern industry influence? In this episode, I sit down with Larry Whiteāa man whose title should come with the initials GSD (Gets Stuff Done). Larry is the current COO at JDP and has been a leader at some of the most influential names in tā¦
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Data-Driven Sustainability in Shared Living: The Utopi Story with special guest Jonathan Burridge
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43:18Send us a text Latest Housed episode with special guest Jonathan Burridge, Co-Founder and CEO of Utopi. Sarah, Dan and Deenie are joined by Jonathan to discuss digital solutions to sustainability in shared living, the key themes covered in this episode include: Smart buildings aren't just collecting dataāthey're transforming how we live. In this coā¦
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The Coliving Playbook with Mayank Pokharna (Everything Coliving)
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50:37The coliving industry is boomingābut how you scale matters. In this episode of Pillow Talk Sessions, hosts Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski sit down with Mayank Pokharna, CEO of Fllat.com and Founder of Everything Coliving, to unpack the operational, cultural, and economic realities of coliving on a global scale. š” Key topics: š ļø Why gettinā¦
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Episode 33: Behind the Fine Print: Rebecca Kuehn on the Legal Heart of Background Screening
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49:21Send us a text Ever wonder how the perspective of a former FTC insider could reshape your understanding of compliance in background screening? In this episode, I talk with Rebecca Kuehn, whoās journeyed from enforcing federal consumer protection laws at the FTC to guiding companies through the ever-evolving maze of FCRA compliance. With a sharp legā¦
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How Flexible are Contracts Really? Homeviews BTR Report, The Key Feature not Being Communicated and AI in Planning.
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34:26Send us a text Stepping away from remote recording, the Housed - Shared Living Podcast team gathers in-person at a London studio to tackle pressing issues reshaping the shared accommodation landscape in Episode 63. Following energetic feedback from their UKREiiF coverage, the hosts reveal ongoing conversations to create a dedicated hub for PBSA, BTā¦
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Episode 32: The Original Screening Attorney: Lessons from 40+ Years in the Legal Trenches with Larry Henry
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48:46Send us a text What if the unsung architect of your industry was never after the spotlightājust the truth? In this episode of Behind the Screens, I sit down with Larry Henryāthe very first lawyer dedicated to background screening compliance under the FCRA, dating back to 1981. Who was defending FCRA compliance before most of us knew what that even ā¦
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Beyond 9-to-5: Creating Spaces That Serve 24/7 Lives, Is PBSA less sexy than BTR and coliving? The Highs and Lows of UKREiiF and Will the UK see a Resurgence of International Students?
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35:38Send us a text Episode 62! And this week the hosts, Deenie, Sarah and Dan are discussing some of the content and themes from UKREiiF and all the shared living news from the last couple of weeks including: - The highs and lows of UKREiiF - Is PBSA less sexy than BTR and coliving? - Is the night time economy considered when designing spaces? - Will tā¦
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Live Special ā Experience is the New Amenity
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54:29This week on Pillow Talk Sessions, weāre excited to release our first live-recorded episode, where we brought industry leaders together to unpack the future of resident experience in front of a live audience. Hosts Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski are joined by: š¹ Freya Richard (Vertus) š¹ Philippa Wagner (PeoplePlacesSpaces) š¹ Mitch Hammondā¦
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Episode 31: Born Into Background Screening, Built for Leadership: Conversation with Brittany Bollinger - Boyle
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27:04Send us a text Have you ever met someone who knew what they wanted to do with their life at age 12āand then actually did it? Almost every guest on this podcast has shared how they stumbled into background screening by accident. But not Brittany Bollinger Boyle. While most kids were dreaming about being astronauts or rock stars, Brittany was dreaminā¦
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Episode 30: Learn, Grow, Expand: How Laura Randazzo Turned Curiosity into a Successful Career in Background Screening
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28:17Send us a text Meet Laura Randazzoāa powerhouse professional whose journey from entry-level verification specialist to Chief Operating Officer and national voice in background screening is nothing short of inspiring. In this episode, we trace her path through the rapidly changing landscape of screening technology, regulatory hurdles, and leadershipā¦
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The Dangerous Data Driving Student Housing, PBSA Headwinds, Immigration Mixed Messages, Hypermixity and Youth Mobilility
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41:04Send us a text We are on Episode 61 and this week the hosts, Deenie, Sarah and Dan are discussing some of the content and themes from the recent Student Housing Conference by LD Events. The episode covers; - Is agent data dangerous? - PBSA headwinds - Immigration mixed messages - The complexities around hypermixity and where are real opportunities ā¦
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Navigating Reform in Build-to-Rent with Rachel Hanniquet-Brooking (APO Group)
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43:10This week on Pillow Talk Sessions, Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski are joined by Rachel Hanniquet-Brooking, Managing Director of APO Group LTD, to explore the state of the UK rental marketāand how Build-to-Rent operators can prepare for seismic change. š” Tune in to hear Rachelās perspective on: š§¾ The impact of the Renters Reform Bill on noā¦
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Episode 29: The Man Behind CRA Zoom: Derek Hinton on Accreditation, Innovation, and the Evolution of Screening
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46:02Send us a text I sat with Derek Hinton for this weekās episodeāa pioneer whoās been shaping the screening industry since 1984. From helping launch the first digital driving records to building CRA Zoom and co-authoring the Criminal Records Manual, Derek has played a pivotal role in how compliance, accreditation, and innovation collide. This episodeā¦
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All-inclusive bills: the end of an era? Is entering industry awards worth it? And an exclusive interview about the Housing (Scottish) Bill
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41:07Send us a text We are on Episode 60, and this week the hosts; Deenie, Dan and Sarah are discussing: - The latest Youth Forum research on students and sustainability - Recycling: are we going far enough? - Key drivers for renters: is it cost or sustainability? - All-inclusive bills: time we moved away from them? - Industry awards: should you be enteā¦
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Episode 28: Sachin Aggarwal on Building a Global Background Screening PowerhouseāOne Country (and Mango) at a Time
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35:01Send us a text What happens when a tech-savvy engineer with a passion for mangoes, a background in global consulting, and an MBA from New York turns his attention to building one of the most respected background screening companies in the world? In this episode, I sit down with Sachin Aggarwal, Director at AMS Inform, to explore how a career that sā¦
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Who is responsible for educating tenants? Why are operators changing management companies? Are students using AI to check tenancies and what will happen to PBSA stock in Glasgow in the future?
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36:02Send us a text This week Deenie, Sarah & Dan are discussing: - Changing management companies - The Housing Hand report Understanding Renters in 2025 - Why we need to be educating renters - The Renters Rightsā Bill - Using AI for researching how to rent - Addressing affordability - Student Crowd data on PBSA stock in Glasgow. Thank you to our seasonā¦
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Hospitality Rewired with Simone Puorto (Travel Singularity)
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53:25Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski sit down with Simone Puorto, Founder of Travel Singularity, to unpack how technology, empathy, and adaptability are reshaping the future of hospitality. š” Tune in to explore: š¹ How tech can amplify human connection, not replace it š Why hospitality design must respond to human rhythms, not rigid formats š Whā¦
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Episode 27: Andy Hellmanās Global Journey Through Background Screening & Data Privacy
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38:47Send us a text How does a guy go from managing concrete budgets in Virginia to shaping international privacy frameworks from Milan to Singapore? The answer lies in one of the most unexpectedāand inspiringācareer journeys in the background screening industry. In this episode, I talk with the elusive āthird amigoā himselfāAndy Hellmanāa man whose carā¦
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Are Marketplaces Killing Direct Bookings? Why Laundry Facilities Are a Critical Accommodation Feature, Segregating Students, Twin Rooms and Sector Terminology
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43:15Send us a text Our latest episode kicks off with the hosts, Sarah, Dan and Deenie discussing listener feedback. With thanks to Tom Sutcliffe of Scape, Max Beilby from Vita Student and Aaron Bailey from Yugo for their input. Also, a big thank you to John Stotter-Marden from Washstation for providing us with facts and details on laundry facilities. Wā¦
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Episode 26: How Marc Linchuck Navigated Chaos, Change, and Innovation
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35:44Send us a text Have you ever stopped to think about what grit, perseverance, and a little bit of luck it takes to build a background screening business from scratch? Imagine navigating a world of fax machines, colored file folders, and constant tech disruptionāall while trying to stay ahead of the curve. In this episode, I sit down with Marc Linchuā¦
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Marketplace Challenges, Twin Rooms: The Missing Key to PBSA Affordability? Is dual occupancy really for two people? Why all the single occupancy studios?
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1:00:47Send us a text This episode of Housed covers: - Why twin rooms are rarely seen in PBSA? - What a dual occupancy studio really means and why developers are building single occupancy coliving schemes - Does the PBSA booking season look rosy? - The conflict between investors and operators when it comes to positivity vs realism - Dan is desperate to diā¦
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