Leadership Story Talks is a podcast hosted by Jerome Deroy, CEO of Narativ, and Julienne Ryan, business author, communication and HR specialist, and frequent Narativ training contributor.In each episode, Jerome and Jules discuss the practices that engage, motivate, develop, retain, and attract people to businesses, whether these are your customers or your employees. Their principles and tools are based on real world stories that leverage listening and storytelling to become a better leader a ...
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Leadership Story Talks | Story Intelligence with Gabrielle Dolan
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39:34In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan speak with Gabrielle Dolan—one of the world’s leading authorities on business storytelling, keynote speaker, and author of nine books including her newest release, Story Intelligence: The Craft of Authentic Storytelling Made Smarter with AI. Gabrielle shares the pivotal…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Preparation, Precision, and the Power of Time
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9:01"Be ready to be ready." — Jen Mueller In this debrief, Jerome and Julienne unpack lessons from Jen Mueller’s world of sports broadcasting—where seconds matter and every word counts. They explore how Jen’s approach to preparation, precision, and presence applies far beyond the sidelines, offering leaders a model for communicating clearly and engagin…
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Leadership Story Talks | Bridging Facts, Feelings, and Community with Dr. Anja Timmermann
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37:09Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan sit down with Dr. Anja Timmermann—historian, communication scientist, journalist, and founder of the Storytelling Symposium in Germany. With a background spanning academia, media, and neuroscience, Dr. Timmermann brings a rich, evidence-based perspective to how humans share knowledge, build connection, and lead throug…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss AI, Culture, and the Stories That Reflect Us
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9:20"When AI is mimicking as opposed to truly reflecting a culture, things become dull… it’s been flattened out." — James Francis In this debrief, Jerome and Julienne unpack James Francis’s reflection on artificial intelligence and culture—and draw striking parallels to storytelling itself. When we rely on a single story, or a single perspective, we fl…
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Leadership Story Talks | Rediscovering Self Beyond Labels with Dr. LaNysha Adams
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30:30In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan speak with Dr. LaNysha Adams—TEDx speaker, ten-time award-winning author of Me Power, and Director of Student Wellness at Santa Fe Community College. Dr. Adams shares a profoundly personal story of surviving sudden cardiac arrest during the COVID-19 pandemic—an experien…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Kindness, Feedback, and the Power of “What Happened”
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11:07"There was a beginning and an end… and all the contributing factors that made it actionable." In this debrief, Jerome and Julienne reflect on Andy Goram’s story of receiving tough but transformative feedback. What could have been a demoralizing moment instead became a catalyst for growth—showing how honesty, kindness, and specificity can turn feedb…
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Leadership Story Talks | Conversations in Seconds: Precision, Clarity & Leadership with Jen Mueller
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32:32In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan speak with Jen Mueller—business communication expert, Emmy Award-winning broadcaster, and founder of Talk Sporty to Me. With over 25 years on the sidelines of the NFL, MLB, and beyond, Jen translates lessons from high-pressure sports environments into practical strategi…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Reflect on How Leaders Can Truly Support Their Teams
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10:52“We see so often the Peter Principle play out… What we really need in today’s world are unblockers of work.” — Liz Gulliver In this debrief, Jerome and Julienne reflect on Liz Gulliver’s insight that many managers are promoted for technical expertise but left unsupported in learning how to lead people. The result? Micromanagement, lost trust, and t…
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Leadership Story Talks | Artificial Integrity: Building AI with Empathy, Justice & Humanity with James Francis
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41:17In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan speak with James Francis—investor, technologist, and founder of Paradigm Asset Management and Sol.ai—about his groundbreaking framework, Artificial Integrity. With decades of experience managing billions through data-driven systems, James now focuses on a question that …
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Reflect on Grit, Process, and Learning from Success
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12:17"…I wasn’t a good athlete and I was never going to be a good athlete, but what I was good at was trying to be a little bit better next time than I was this time." — George Pesansky In this debrief, Jerome and Julienne reflect on George Pesansky’s story of running uphill—literally and figuratively. What began as a painful failure in cross-country ru…
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Leadership Story Talks | Building Sticky Cultures with Kindness, Stories & Everyday Actions with Andy Goram
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38:54In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan speak with Andy Goram—also known as The Sticky Guy—a culture, leadership, and engagement consultant on a mission to help organizations create workplaces people don’t want to leave. Drawing on a pivotal career moment when a manager’s blunt but kind feedback changed his t…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Leadership Failures in Titanic's Rescue
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10:18“He failed to even take the most basic action… Instead, the Californian watched, motionless, as Titanic sank into the night.” In this debrief, Jerome and Julienne reflect on Kelly Skwarcan’s striking account of leadership failure aboard the SS Californian—a ship that might have saved hundreds of lives after Titanic sank but instead stood by, paraly…
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Leadership Story Talks | Building Businesses with Culture, Flexibility & Belonging with Liz Gulliver
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37:09In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan speak with Liz Gulliver—co-founder of Kunik, a community-driven platform helping companies retain and engage working parents and caregivers. Drawing on her own experience as a working parent in high-pressure corporate environments, Liz has built a business around rethin…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Bringing People Together with Story
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13:00“We need to cross your streams. We need to have a full Ghostbusters moment.” In this debrief episode, Jerome and Julienne reflect on their conversation with Evante Daniels — unpacking the metaphor of “crossing streams” and what it reveals about silos, purpose, and building cultures that last. They explore why organizations often keep departments, g…
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Leadership Story Talks | What Does Real Performance Look Like with George Pesansky
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37:24In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan sit down with George Pesansky—executive coach, performance consultant, and author of the upcoming book Superperformance: 8 Strategies to Reach Full Potential for Yourself, Your Team, and Your Organization (Greenleaf Book Group, Sept. 2025). George shares how his persona…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Elevating Voices
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12:06"That’s the only reason you’re in this office.” In this debrief episode, Jerome and Julienne reflect on their powerful conversation with Charles Bernard—zeroing in on one pivotal moment: a leader choosing to elevate a quiet voice in the room. That moment not only launched Charles’s career in sales—it reshaped his sense of self. In this debrief, our…
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Leadership Story Talks | Success & Failure on the Titanic's Rescue with Kelly Skwarcan
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40:52What does the Titanic teach us about psychological safety, trust, and moral leadership? In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan sit down with Kelly Skwarcan—leadership consultant, author, and creator of Leadership in Crisis: The Titanic, Carpathia, and Californian. Through this unique, immersive case study, K…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss the Power of the Handwritten Letter
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9:58In this debrief episode, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy reflect on their heartfelt conversation with author and keynote speaker Amy Daughters, whose work explores the unexpected power of handwritten letters in the digital age. Centered on a deceptively simple idea—taking the time to write a note—this episode dives into the emotional resonance…
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Leadership Story Talks | Cultural Physics and Resilience with Evante Daniels
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41:30In this episode, Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan sit down with Evante Daniels—founder of Seeqer and originator of “cultural physics,” a groundbreaking framework for understanding how shared beliefs and narratives shape organizations. Evante works with schools, governments, and businesses to assess and strengthen what he calls “cultural resilience”—a…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss From Data to Action—Why Stories Move People wit
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9:20In this debrief episode, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy reflect on their compelling conversation with Dr. Neal Baer—renowned TV producer, medical doctor, and storytelling educator—focusing on one powerful idea: “Data. Emotion. Action.” Using this quote as a springboard, they explore how storytelling transforms dry statistics into narratives t…
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Leadership Story Talks | Shifting the Story from Product to Client with Charles Bernard
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41:55In this episode, Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan sit down with Charles Bernard—sales improvement expert, keynote speaker, and founder of Criteria for Success and Collavia. Charles brings more than two decades of experience helping organizations align their strategies with the modern buyer’s mindset. His mantra? Enable buying in a world of selling. F…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Reframing Difficult Experiences
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15:18In this debrief episode, Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan revisit a powerful moment from Episode 142 with Gary Danoff: “I’ve been laid off a number of times, and I used to have great shame about that. And now I have great pride and appreciation and acceptance of what it has taught me… Wealth can be measured in a lot of different ways… partly financia…
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Leadership Story Talks | The Power of the Handwritten Letter with Amy Daughters
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32:28What if the secret to stronger workplace connections and higher engagement could be found in your mailbox? In this episode, Jerome and Julienne sit down with Amy Daughters—keynote speaker, author, and advocate of handwritten letters—as she shares the incredible journey that started with writing notes to a grieving acquaintance and led to a profound…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss How Leaders Create Meaningful Work Environments
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13:28In this debrief episode, Jerome and Julienne reflect on their conversation with Taylor Scott, author of Lead With Hospitality and the upcoming Give Hospitality. They dive deeper into a powerful quote from Taylor: “We love our favorite hospitality brands and destinations... nine times out of ten, it's because of how they make us feel... That's what …
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Leadership Story Talks | Stories That Heal: From ER to Harvard, the Power of Narrative in Medicine and Social Change with Dr Neal Baer
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39:26In this powerful conversation, Jerome and Julienne speak with Dr. Neal Baer—award-winning television showrunner, physician, and educator—whose career has spanned medical dramas like ER and Law & Order: SVU to pioneering a graduate program at Harvard that fuses storytelling and health. Dr. Baer reflects on how his personal journey—particularly comin…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss The Questions We Carry
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9:15In this short debrief episode, Jerome and Julienne reflect on a powerful moment from their recent conversation with leadership expert Kevin Eikenberry. They explore how a single piece of advice or a simple question—delivered at just the right time—can shape the way we lead, communicate, and relate to others. Key Themes The lasting impact of simple,…
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Leadership Story Talks | Business is Personal with Gary Danoff
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34:19In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan engage with Gary Danoff, an executive coach and former leader at Google and Microsoft. The conversation explores Gary's formative experiences, particularly his childhood insights into human behavior and communication. They delve into the challenges of career transitions…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome and Julienne Discuss the Power of Disruption
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11:13In this debrief episode, Jerome and Julienne reflect on a powerful insight from Anil Singhal about embracing inevitable disruption and using company values as a steadfast guide through change. The discussion opens with a personal question: When were you faced with disruption, and how did you respond? Julienne recalls witnessing corporate downsizing…
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Leadership Story Talks | Leading with Hospitality with Taylor Scott
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38:41Jerome and Julienne sat down with Taylor Scott—author, keynote speaker, and founder of Lead With Hospitality. Taylor brings over two decades of leadership experience from the hospitality and entertainment industries and shares how a moment at the beginning of his career planted the seeds for his leadership philosophy rooted in making people feel we…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Life Balance
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12:15In this debrief episode, Julienne and Jerome reflect on the thought-provoking conversation from Episode 133 with Carlo Odicino, who challenges the commonly accepted notion of "work-life balance." Carlo rejects the idea that work should be viewed as separate from life, arguing instead that we should strive for balance in life itself, integrating bot…
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Leadership Story Talks | Flexible Leadership with Kevin Eikenberry
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32:21In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan welcome Kevin Eikenberry, Chief Potential Officer of The Kevin Eikenberry Group and author of Flexible Leadership: Navigate Uncertainty and Lead with Confidence. With over 30 years of experience developing leaders across the globe, Kevin brings fresh insight into what i…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss AI & Human Connection
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9:41In this debrief episode, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy reflect on their conversation with Jennifer Langton, former NFL executive and champion of player safety, innovation, and ethical tech. They discuss how Jennifer’s unique leadership style—grounded in empathy, curiosity, and continuous learning—led to groundbreaking work in AI and athlete …
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Leadership Story Talks | The 5% Rule of Leadership with Anil Singhal
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37:15Hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy sit down with Anil Singhal, CEO and Co-founder of NETSCOUT and author of The 5% Rule of Leadership. With 40 years at the helm of a company that has grown from a startup to a billion-dollar enterprise, Anil brings a wealth of wisdom grounded in experience, fairness, and deeply held values. Anil shares the story b…
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Leadership Story Talks | SPECIAL EPISODE: Navigating Uncertainty and Finding Connection
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12:07In this special episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy step back from their usual format to address something that’s on many people’s minds—uncertainty. With rapid change, economic anxiety, and social division dominating conversations, they explore how we can approach difficult moments with intention, curiosity, and…
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Leadership Story Talks | Reflections on Jeanne Martinet’s Approach to Mingling with Intention
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9:48In this debrief episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy reflect on their insightful conversation with Jeanne Martinet, author of The Art of Mingling and Mingling with the Enemy. Jeanne’s expertise in social interaction and connection offers a refreshing perspective on how we approach conversations—whether at networki…
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Leadership Story Talks | Avoiding Burnout and Leading with Purpose with Carlo Odicino
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42:38In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy welcome Carlo Odicino, CEO and founder of One Team Partners. With over 24 years of experience scaling businesses—from Fortune 100 companies to early-stage startups—Carlo helps leaders bring their innovations to market without burning out. Carlo shares his player-coach a…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Navigating Vulnerability in Storytelling
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10:59In this debrief episode, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy reflect on their conversation with Lisa Hope Telstra and explore the art of navigating vulnerability in storytelling. They discuss the power of acknowledging emotions in real-time and how giving the audience guidance on how to receive a story can transform the experience for both the spe…
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Leadership Story Talks | Innovation and Human Connection with Jennifer Langton
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49:46In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy welcome Jennifer Langton, a dynamic business advisor, speaker, and former senior leader at the NFL and Atari. With a career spanning finance, sports, and AI-driven innovation, Jennifer shares her insights on transformational leadership, advocating for women in business,…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Listening to Who People Are
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19:33In this debrief episode, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy reflect on their conversation with Sona Sherratt (featured in Episode 125) and dive into the critical role storytelling plays in fostering belonging in the workplace. They explore how policies often fall short when they are disconnected from real human experiences and why sharing persona…
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Leadership Story Talks | The Art of Mingling & Navigating Social Landmines with Jeanne Martinet
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30:13In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy welcome Jeanne Martinet, bestselling author of The Art of Mingling and Mingling with the Enemy. Jeanne is a master of social dynamics, sharing insights on how to navigate conversations, avoid heated debates, and build meaningful connections—whether at a party, networkin…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss the Power of Feedback
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14:01In this debrief episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy reflect on their conversation with Sascha Schick, a former corporate executive turned startup leader. Sascha’s journey from a high-powered corporate role to launching Any Help Now was inspired by a deeply personal moment with his son—a turning point that led him…
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Leadership Story Talks | Emotional Intelligence and Vulnerability in Storytelling with Lisa Hope Tilstra
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44:48In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy welcome the insightful and inspiring Lisa Hope Tilstra, coach, facilitator, podcast host, and global expert on emotional intelligence. Lisa shares her experiences working across cultures, coaching individuals from over 25 countries, and facilitating transformative works…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Selling With Stories
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10:22In this debrief episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy reflect on their engaging conversation with Alex Smith, a dynamic thought leader on sales and persuasion. Alex's perspective, rooted in Dan Pink's To Sell Is Human, challenges traditional notions of sales by focusing on human connection, active listening, and st…
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Leadership Story Talks | Exploring the Bias in Cultural Norms with Sona Sherratt
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43:05In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy welcome back Sona Sherratt, a distinguished faculty member at Ashridge and a doctoral candidate at the University of Cambridge. Sona’s work on psychological safety and unwritten organizational rules offers a profound exploration of how these dynamics impact workplace in…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss the "I Am" Poem
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12:25In this debrief episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy reflect on their inspiring conversation with Pearl Alexander, a longtime leader at Georgia Tech. Pearl’s innovative use of the “I Am” poem and her approach to introducing oneself beyond titles and roles sparked a lively discussion on disrupting assumptions and f…
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Leadership Story Talks | Entrepreneurship in the Time of Covid
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44:42In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy welcome Sascha Schick, a seasoned entrepreneur, business informatics specialist, and family man who has successfully transitioned from a global corporate leadership role to founding his own company, Any Help Now. Sascha’s journey from corporate comfort to entrepreneuria…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Unpacking Boxes
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11:21In this special episode of Leadership Story Talks, co-hosts Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan explore the metaphorical and literal significance of boxes in a conversation titled "Unpacking Boxes." Inspired by Julienne’s long-standing curiosity about Jerome’s bookshelf boxes, they delve into the symbolism, stories, and personal growth tied to what we c…
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Leadership Story Talks | Sell By Being Human with Alex Smith
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47:04In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy welcome Alex Smith, a seasoned sales professional, podcast host, and advocate for human-centered connection in business. With over 18 years of experience in sales, including roles in EdTech software and door-to-door sales, Alex brings a refreshing perspective on the tra…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Jargon
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12:36In this short debrief episode, co-hosts Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan reflect on their recent interview with Nadine Keller, exploring the powerful idea of how jargon can hinder connection and trust. They discuss the ways storytelling can bridge gaps in understanding and make communication more human and impactful. Highlights from the Conversation:…
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Leadership Story Talks | Inspiring Change with Pearl Alexander, JD
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40:18In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Julienne Ryan and Jerome Deroy welcome the inspiring Pearl Alexander, JD, a transformational leader in organizational culture and higher education. Pearl shares her remarkable journey from her early career in HR at Georgia Tech to her influential work in fostering inclusion and belonging. With over 3…
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