The Dev Interrupted Podcast is the premier podcast for software engineering leaders. Hosts Dan Lines, Ben Lloyd Pearson, and Andrew Zigler invite expert guests from around the world to explore strategy and day-to-day topics ranging from dev team metrics to accelerating delivery. Join us weekly for new episodes.
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The Shift to Agent-Driven API Consumption | Speakeasy’s Sagar Batchu
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41:17Think building killer APIs like Stripe or Twilio is purely a technical feat? Think again. This week, we dive into why crafting successful APIs is fundamentally an organizational challenge, demanding internal excellence long before code is deployed. Sagar Batchu, co-founder and CEO of Speakeasy, joins us to unpack the crucial role of ownership, desi…
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How Marketing Ruined Shift Left | Semgrep’s Tanya Janca
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48:52When it comes to securing software, most developers feel like they're playing catch-up instead of setting the rules. Tanya Janca (SheHacksPurple), author of "Alice and Bob Learn Secure Coding," brings her 28 years of IT and security expertise—spanning counter-terrorism to enterprise training—to Dev Interrupted. She unpacks the common pitfalls teams…
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How to Build AI Workflows You Can Trust | Infactory’s Brooke Hartley Moy
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43:42Is your company rushing headlong into AI, only to find it's a 'square peg in a round hole'? This week, Andrew tackles the critical issue of building trust in AI systems with Brooke Hartley Moy, CEO and co-founder of Infactory. Brooke, with her experience at companies like Google and Samsung, cuts through the hype and reveals the biggest misconcepti…
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Amazon Q and The Future of Autonomous Development | AWS' Adnan Ijaz
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42:38AI is evolving at a breakneck speed, leaving engineering leaders with a critical dilemma: innovate or fall behind. But how do you experiment with AI without risking your credibility? Andrew Zigler sits down with Adnan Ijaz, Director of Product Management for Next Gen Developer Experience at AWS, to unpack the power of AI agents. Together they discu…
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Ditch the Ticket Factory Mentality | Cosmic Teacups’ Thanos Diacakis
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55:09Imagine a world where your engineering team ships features at lightning speed, and they're genuinely happy doing it. Sounds like a fantasy? It doesn't have to be. This week, we're diving into the secrets of building high-performing, happy engineering teams with Thanos Diacakis, a fractional CTO and engineering coach with over 25 years of experience…
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Will AI Finally Make TDD Practical? | Diffblue’s Animesh Mishra
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46:04The promise of Test Driven Development (or TDD) remains unfulfilled. Like many other forms of aspirational development, the practice has fallen victim to countless buzzword cycles. What if the answer is already in our toolbox? This week, host Andrew Zigler sits down with Animesh Mishra, Senior Solutions Engineer at Diffblue, to unpack the gap betwe…
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Can You Buy Your Way to DevSecOps Success? | Arcjet’s David Mytton
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48:40If you're tired of hearing "shift left" in DevSecOps and seeing little real change, you're not alone. In this episode, David Mytton (CEO of ArcJet, founder of Console.dev) breaks down why traditional approaches to developer security often fail. He reveals the core conflict between developers (who want to build fast) and security teams (who want to …
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Simplifying the AI Stack | IBM's Dr. Maryam Ashoori
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46:23This week, Andrew Zigler sits down with Dr. Maryam Ashoori, Senior Director of Product Management for watsonx at IBM. Together they discuss the evolving AI stack for enterprise and the growing skill gap challenging developers. Dr. Ashoori shares insights from a recent survey of 1,000 developers, highlighting the need for better tools and strategies…
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Why Are Teams Only Aligned During a Crisis? | CircleCI & MongoDB
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1:19:49This week, Ben and Andrew dive into the (surprisingly?) complex world of calculator apps, analyze how AI is revolutionizing the technical interview, and dissect the emerging “two-tier” economy around AI. What side of the curve does your org fall on? Then, the conversation goes on site to San Francisco, where host Dan Lines hosts Rob Zuber (CTO, Cir…
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Can Your AI Strategy Be Future-Proof? | Galileo’s Vikram Chatterji
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40:59Ben and Andrew open the show by dissecting why AI can't see gorillas, how big banks are stepping up to attract tech talent, and why focus is becoming the must-have resource for devs. Then, Vikram Chatterji, co-founder and CEO of Galileo, joins Andrew for a discussion on how engineering leaders can future-proof their AI strategy and navigate an emer…
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Why Teams Will Break This Year (and How to Fix Them) | Battery Venture’s Dharmesh Thakker
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1:06:25Live from San Francisco, Dev Interrupted explores the future of developer productivity with Ori Keren (CEO, LinearB) and Dharmesh Thakker (General Partner, Battery Ventures). The conversation, recorded before a live audience in San Francisco, examines the exciting possibilities and potential challenges of AI-powered tools, from code completion and …
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Hunting for a Flywheel | Refactoring’s Luca Rossi
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51:38To open the show, Ben and Andrew dive into the latest headlines about DeepSeek from last week. We answer questions like “why did everyone search ‘Jevons paradox'?” and discuss strategic AI investments from financial giants like Goldman Sachs. These moves underscore the growing importance of strong engineering leadership in the age of AI. Then, Luca…
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Low-Code Won’t Replace You | Camunda’s Bernd Ruecker
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45:30Ben and Andrew open the show by discussing the emergence of the DeepSeek AI model, Google's shakeup of the SEO landscape, and speculate on whether or not we're seeing the death of free APIs. Then, Ben sits down with Bernd Ruecker, Co-Founder and Chief Technologist at Camunda, to explore how low code solutions are changing the game for developers. T…
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The Need for Speed | 2025 Engineering Benchmarks
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31:06Want to ship better software? Get in the fast lane. This week, hosts Ben Lloyd Pearson and Andrew Ziegler open the episode with a discussion of some of the tech topics dominating the news cycle like Microsoft's restructuring to focus on AI, a potential TikTok ban in the U.S. and a status check on New Year's resolutions. Then, joined by Dan Lines, t…
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Managing Developer Feedback Effectively | Atlassian’s Andrew Boyagi
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41:48Is your company relying on surveys alone to bridge the gap between developers and managers? In this episode of Dev Interrupted, host Ben Lloyd Pearson and Dan Lines, COO of LinearB, dive into the perceived misalignment between engineers and their leaders on improving developer experience. Together, they emphasize the importance of data-driven insig…
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The Hero Culture Trap | Sowmya Subramanian
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53:58How do you build a culture that balances operational excellence with developer happiness? By shifting from firefighting to foresight. Kick off Season 5 of Dev Interrupted with hosts Ben Lloyd Pearson, Andrew Zigler, and Dan Lines as they share their New Year's resolutions and welcome Sowmya Subramanian, whose leadership journey spans Google, YouTub…
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Season 4 Finale: A Fond Farewell, What’s Next & Would You Rather
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40:34It's the end of an era on Dev Interrupted as we say farewell to host Conor Bronsdon and welcome a fresh voice, Andrew Zigler! Join us for a nostalgic trip down memory lane as Conor revisits his favorite interviews and moments from Season 4 and beyond, including discussions on chaos engineering, technical debt, and the human side of managing softwar…
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Developer Productivity Will Decline in 2025 | Predictions from LinearB’s Ori Keren
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38:262025 will test every assumption about how engineering teams work. With the new year fast approaching Ori Keren, CEO of LinearB, has some bold predictions that might surprise you, like why developer productivity could actually go down in 2025. Yep, you read that right. As AI tools flood the market, we might see a dip in both productivity and creativ…
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From Rockets to Roadmaps: An Engineer's Guide to Product Success | Sift Stack’s Austin Spiegel
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28:51What’s the secret to building better products? Letting engineers drive the vision. This week, host Ben Lloyd Pearson interviews Austin Spiegel, co-founder and CTO of Sift Stack, who previously spent years leading engineering teams at SpaceX. Austin reveals how SpaceX's unique engineering culture, which eliminated the product management layer, influ…
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From Fear to Function: Rethinking Engineering Processes | Stytch’s Julianna Lamb
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25:28Most developers (ourselves included) want to run for the hills when they hear the words “engineering process.” But it turns out, the biggest danger to your team may not be having enough process. You don’t have to take our word for it. This week’s guest made a believer out of us and we’re willing to bet she’ll make a believer out of you too. Juliann…
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Are Only 20% of Devs Happy? | Stack Overflow’s Erin Yepis
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45:49This week, Dev Interrupted dives into the 2024 Stack Overflow Developer Survey, revealing a surprising statistic: only 1 in 5 developers are happy in their jobs. Stack Overflow's Senior Analyst of Market Research and Insights, Erin Yepis, joins host Ben Lloyd Pearson to discuss the survey's findings and explore the reasons behind this widespread di…
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Making Sense of Agentic AI | ThoughtWorks Birgitta Boeckeler
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47:40There’s AI agents. There’s AI tooling. Do either drive business impact or are they just more things your dev team is supposed to stay on top of? Birgitta Boeckeler, Global Lead for AI Assisted Software Delivery at ThoughtWorks, joins the show to discuss the practical applications of AI in software delivery. She shares her research on AI agents, hig…
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Open Source Meets AI | Red Hat's Scott McCarty
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45:38Open source has transformed software development, but can it do the same for AI? In this episode of Dev Interrupted, Conor Bronsdon talks with Scott McCarty, Senior Principal Product Manager at Red Hat, about the potential of open source AI to revolutionize enterprise DevOps. They discuss the challenges and opportunities of open source AI, includin…
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Back to First Principles | Productiv CTO Ashish Aggarwal
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38:45Everyone knows the era of growth at all costs is over, but where does that leave us? And specifically, where does that leave founders? The answer is straightforward: founders have to start thinking like business people. This week, Conor Bronsdon interviews Ashish Aggarwal, founder and CTO of Productive and an active investor in over 30 companies. A…
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The Real Measure of Success in Platform Engineering | MassDriver CEO Cory O'Daniel
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45:04It’s time we recognize the idea of a ‘Golden Path’ is unrealistic. In this episode of Dev Interrupted, host Dan Lines is joined by Cory O'Daniel, CEO of MassDriver, to discuss Cory’s provocative article 'DevOps is Bullshit'. They cover the pitfalls of DevOps, the evolution of cloud operations and whether or not platform engineering is the solution …
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Transforming Customer Support with AI | DevRev’s Co-founder & CEO Dheeraj Pandey
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49:52This week, host Conor Bronsdon chats with Dheeraj Pandey, CEO and co-founder of DevRev. Dheeraj shares his incredible journey from leading Nutanix to a valuation of $16 billion, to now striving to build another unicorn with DevRev. Dheeraj opens up about the lessons learned from his entrepreneurial journey, emphasizing the significance of having a …
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Observability as a Success Catalyst | Momento’s Co-Founder & CTO Daniela Miao
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42:05This week, co-host Conor Bronsdon sits down with Daniela Miao, co-founder and CTO of Momento, to discuss her journey from DynamoDB at AWS to founding the real-time data infrastructure platform Momento. Daniela covers the importance of observability, the decision to rebuild Momento's stack with Rust, and how observability can speed up development cy…
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Iteration Velocity is the Key to Engineering Success | Vercel’s Malte Ubl
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37:51This week, our host Dan Lines chats with Malte Ubl, CTO of Vercel, about why iteration speed is a game-changer for teams trying to deliver more efficiently. Malte shares how accelerating the development cycle and embracing platform engineering can supercharge productivity, helping teams ship faster and innovate more effectively. We explore what it …
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How Specialized Models Drive Developer Productivity | Tabnine’s Brandon Jung
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45:50What are the limitations of general large language models, and when should you evaluate more specialized models for your team’s most important use case? This week, Conor Bronsdon sits down with Brandon Jung, Vice President of Ecosystem at Tabnine, to explore the difference between specialized models and LLMs. Brandon highlights how specialized mode…
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Agentic AI: Dissecting the Future of AI Workflows | Memra's Founder Amir Behbehani
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45:14Engineering teams are already seeing efficiency gains by leveraging Gen AI solutions like Copilot, but the next wave of AI workflows has the potential to 10X productivity. This week, we’re exploring the world of Agentic AI with Amir Behbehani, Chief AI Engineer and Founder of Memra. Agentic AI can be defined as AI agents or systems that have the ca…
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The Rising Demand for Soft Skills in Engineering | LinkedIn’s VPE Aarathi Vidyasagar
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45:22According to a LinkedIn study, engineers with strong soft skills are promoted 13% faster than those with only technical skills. Given how AI will continue to reshape market demands for developers and engineering leaders, how can you adapt to these changes and further your career? This week we’re joined by Aarathi Vidyasagar, VP of Engineering at Li…
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Finding the Best Gen AI Use Case for Your Dev Team | Sonar’s Peter McKee
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34:51Gen AI for dev teams has been a focal point of conversation for the last few years, but the technology and application are both still very nascent. How can you find the best Gen AI use case for your team, and implement it safely? This week, our host Dan Lines sits down with Peter McKee, Vice President of Developer Relations and Community at Sonar. …
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Mastering Developer Experience at Shopify | Eytan Seidman, Director of Product
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43:02In an organization as big as Shopify, how can you pioneer exceptional developer experience not only for your team but also for external developers using your product? This week we’re joined by Eytan Seidman, Director of Product at Shopify to unpack Shopify's approach to building elite engineering teams. Eytan highlights how Shopify’s high-context, …
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Helping Government Software Teams Move Faster | Carnegie Mellon's Robin Yeman
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23:55Both the aerospace and defense sectors are renowned for long project timelines rife with silos and hurdles that get in the way of productivity. With over 20 years of experience at Lockheed Martin and elsewhere, Robin Yeman literally wrote the book Industrial DevOps on how to implement DevOps principles at traditional behemoths to build faster, safe…
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Scaling Smart: Strategies for Product Development | Semgrep’s Adam Berman
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39:48Scaling new product lines within a growing company can be both an opportunity and quite challenging. Semgrep's Head of Engineering Adam Berman joined us this week to share his own experience developing Semgrep's second product line. Adam was instrumental in developing Semgrep's second product line, and he shares practical strategies for moving from…
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From Mentor to Manager: How to Get Into Engineering Management | Asana’s Amanda Sopkin
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25:52This week, co-host Conor Bronsdon sits down with Amanda Sopkin, Engineering Manager at Asana. Amanda shares her journey from software engineer to manager, discussing the pivotal moment she chose to pursue management over an individual contributor path. We cover the indicators of a successful manager, the red flags to watch for, and the importance o…
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The Rise of Cloud Costs, and How to Optimize Them | Plaid’s Mark Robinson
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24:58“If you're not careful, cloud computing can lose more money faster than any invention in history” - Mark Robinson, Infrastructure Engineer at Plaid This week, guest host Ben Lloyd Pearson sits down with Plaid’s Mark Robinson to learn how he helped Plaid save 25% in costs by optimizing existing resources and eliminating waste in cloud computing. Mar…
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AI Hype Cycle: How to Find Real and Practical vs. Shiny | OpenAI’s Louis Brandy
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44:17AI is the biggest hype cycle happening in tech right now, but how do you know what’s actually going to make an impact for your product and team vs. what’s just new and shiny? This week, LinearB COO & Co-founder Dan Lines sits down with Louis Brandy, Member of Technical Staff OpenAI and ex-VP of Engineering at Rockset. Louis shares his unique perspe…
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Realistic Product Roadmaps and Other Lies | Best Egg’s Johnny Ray Austin
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43:57When we first saw the talk titled “Space Aliens Are Among Us, Your Product Roadmap is Realistic and Other Lies you Believe,” we knew we had to sit down with Best Egg’s Johnny Ray Austin at LeadingEng SF last year. Johnny joined our host Conor Bronsdon to discuss how engineering leaders can navigate unrealistic expectations and pressures, drawing fr…
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Labs: Everything You Need to Know About Software Engineering Intelligence (SEI)
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38:37Engineering leaders have long used value stream management and CI/CD tools to improve software delivery practices. However, an increasing demand for cost and efficiency is leading to the adoption of new technologies. Enterprises are quickly adopting tools that combine deeper levels of visibility into the SDLC with net-new workflow automations, lead…
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Data Science & AI: Getting Buy-In and Demonstrating ROI | PagerDuty’s Sanghamitra Goswami
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23:28In this episode of Dev Interrupted, Conor Bronsdon is joined by Sanghamitra Goswami, Senior Director of Data Science and Machine Learning at PagerDuty. Sanghamitra shares her expertise in AI and data science, including how engineering teams can effectively leverage both within their organizations. She also explores the history and significance of L…
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The Power of Micro Frontends & Breaking Down Monoliths | Thayse Onofrio
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24:19This week, guest host Ben Lloyd Pearson chats with Thayse Onofrio, Software Engineer at Clutch and ex Thoughtworks. Thayse discusses how micro frontends allow individual application components to be operated and deployed independently, helping teams avoid the complexities of a monolithic architecture. They cover the technicalities, challenges, and …
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Deliver Better Results: How to Unlock Your Organization's Potential | Gil Broza
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46:12Dan Lines is joined by Gil Broza, author of 'Deliver Better Results,' to discuss how you and your organization can achieve better results by focusing on processes. Gil shares his 20-year journey in the Agile field, focusing on product development, system thinking, prioritizing people, and mindful mindset adjustments. The conversation covers the boo…
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How to Increase Adoption of Internal Developer Tooling | Bloomberg’s Luis Vega
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38:35This week, guest host Ben Lloyd Pearson sits down with Bloomberg’s Engineering Manager Luis Vega. Luis discusses the initial challenges of enhancing developer engagement with internal tooling. He outlines his approach to building internal applications that are as intuitive and engaging as Bloomberg's client-facing solutions, and how applying UX des…
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Labs: Setting Engineering Goals and Reporting to Stakeholders
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38:00In our first Labs episode of the year, LinearB COO and Co-founder Dan Lines is joined by CTO Yishai Beeri to explore how elite engineering organizations set and report on their engineering goals. Modern engineering leaders face a dual mandate of achieving operational excellence while aligning their work with business priorities. To achieve this, yo…
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Why You Need to Take Risks as an Engineering Leader | GitHub’s VPE Neha Batra
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43:32This week, I sat down with Neha Batra, VP of Engineering for Core Productivity at GitHub. Our conversation is about the value of taking calculated risks in engineering leadership, using a “risk budget," and how you can leverage your social capital to take risks that help your career. Neha also shares her insights on senior engineering leaders' chal…
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Unlocking Employee Engagement and Innovation | ADP’s Chuck Lafferty
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28:56In the last few years, disengagement at work has become a massive issue. We learned from Dr. Andre Martin’s episode that 53% of managers are burnt out and 1 in 3 employees leave their jobs in the first 90 days. This week, we sat down with Chuck Lafferty, VP of CRM at ADP, to discuss ADP’s approach to employee engagement and innovation. Chuck dives …
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Automated ≠ Autonomous: Developer Productivity and AI | MongoDB’s Tara Hernandez
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44:46This week, our host Dan Lines sits down with Tara Hernandez, VP of Developer Productivity at MongoDB. Together, they explore the nuances of developer productivity and the impact of AI in engineering environments. Tara emphasizes that achieving developer productivity requires a focus on outcomes, reduced noise for developers, and a healthy balance b…
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How Microsoft Integrates AI into Security | Binil Pillai
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29:13In the past year, ransomware attacks have been up almost 300%, with over 50% targeting small businesses. To help mitigate this increase, Microsoft is launching their new Security Copilot, and we sat down with their SMB Security Strategy Head, Binil Pillai, to learn more. We dive into the importance of SMBs assessing their security posture, how to l…
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How to Leverage a Non-Technical Background in Engineering Leadership | Melissa DePuydt
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33:56In this episode, host Conor Bronsdon talks with Melissa DePuydt, Sr. Director of Engineering at Upstatement. Melissa discusses how her background in journalism has uniquely positioned her to excel in engineering leadership roles. She highlights how thinking like a journalist has enhanced her ability to lead engineering teams effectively, particular…
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