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Jared Goetz is a 34-year-old modern-day entrepreneur who transitioned from building eCommerce empires to building inner empires. After achieving material success at a young age, Jared recognized a deeper truth: fulfillment doesn't come from what you attain—it comes from who you become. His journey led him inward, toward self-mastery, spirituality, and a commitment to helping others unlock their highest potential. It’s not just about success—it’s about who you become on the path to it.
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Deconstructing Mamas

Lizz Enns Petters and Esther Joy Goetz

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If you are trying to figure out how to navigate the tricky tightrope of parenting while you have questions, doubts and wonderings about your spiritual journey, this podcast is for you. It doesn't matter if your kids are smalls, middles, or bigs. We will explore what and how we are deconstructing from churchianity, harmful belief systems, and diving deep into the ways we can work this out in parenthood. We will also work through ideas for reconstructing a space for our families to thrive unde ...
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'''Our job as parents is not to make other people comfortable with how we raise our kids, Our job is to make sure our kids grow up in a family where they’re comfortable being exactly who they are.'' Shelly Robinson Our episode this week is with Rachel Pinto-Martin, founder of Self Love, Healthy Boundaries Coaching, mom of two, former Mormon and fie…
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"Where did we ever get the notion that in order for children to behave better, they first have to feel worse?" Our episode this week is with Wendy Snyder, founder of Fresh Start Family, mom of two teens, podcaster and certified positive (or as she likes to call it), powerful parenting coach. On this episode, we talk with Wendy about what it means t…
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"In the end, Jesus proved that forgiveness is more powerful than punches and kicks. And in the end, love wins over hate." - Jared Neusch and Connor Shram in their book: Jesus vs. the Bad Guys Our episode this week is with two dads, one a corn hole champion and Biblical scholar (Dr. Jared Neusch) and the other a comedian and change-maker (Connor Shr…
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You don’t have to the answers to why Jesus died to talk about Easter with your kids. (Sarah Swartzendruber) Our episode this week is with our resident Children's Pastor, childhood development expert, mom to two and Bible scholar, Sarah Swartzendruber. On this episode, we talk with Sarah about reimagining the Easter story by diving into atonement th…
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The worst thing we ever did is pretend God isn’t the easiest thing in this Universe available to every soul in every breath. (Chelan Harkin) Our episode this week is with Chelan Harkin, mama to two and mystical poet extraordinaire. On this episode, we talk with Chelan about growing up in the Baha'i faith, the courage it takes to question what you'v…
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​Suresh Madhavan is the founder and CEO of 221B Tactical, a multi-million dollar tactical gear and apparel brand. He began 221B Tactical while working as a police officer, recognizing the need for quality gear for police, military, and first responders. From crafting the first products in his garage on a yard-sale sewing machine, he has grown the c…
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With regard to the question, “Do you believe in God?” I do not care much about your answer. But if I were to ask the last five people with whom you’ve interacted if you were kind, about those answers I care very much. (Rabbi Brian Zachary Mayer) Our episode this week is with Rabbi Brian Zachary Mayer, dad, author of the brilliant book, Highly Unort…
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In this powerful episode of The Jared Goetz Show, former CIA operations officer Lindsay Moran reveals what life is actually like inside the CIA—no Hollywood filters, no government fluff. From her firsthand experiences in the field to the hidden costs of global intelligence and the emotional toll of undercover work, this conversation is equal parts …
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Doubt is another word for imagination. (Liz Charlotte Grant) Our episode this week is with Liz Charlotte Grant, mom, author of the new brilliant book, Knock at the Sky: Seeking God in Genesis After Losing Faith in the Bible, artist and lover of the Bible. On this episode, we talk with Liz about all things related to seeking God through Scripture ev…
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What we're learning is that God is comfortable with questions. In fact, our questions are often where God want to meet us. (Erin Hicks Moon) Our episode this week is with Erin Hicks Moon, mom, author of the new brilliant book, I've Got Questions, Zac Efron apologist (it's a thing y'all), and self-proclaimed Bible-nerd. On this episode, we talk with…
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In this episode of The Jared Goetz Podcast, Jared Goetz and Alex Heiden dive into the psychology behind why some people take action while others stay stuck in the cycle of waiting, doubting, and hesitating. They break down: ✅ Why most people don’t believe in their own potential until they experience it firsthand. ✅ The two paths to taking action—th…
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"Purity culture presents a false dichotomy: restraint or chaos. The real alternative? Sexual empowerment - the freedom to experience intimacy on your own meaningful terms." (Joshua Harris) Our episode this week is with Joshua Harris, former pastor and the author of I Kissed Dating Goodbye, released at the height of purity culture, and currently on …
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In this insightful episode of the Jared Goetz Podcast, host Jared Goetz sits down with renowned e-commerce expert Alex Fedotoff. Together, they unravel powerful strategies, critical mindset shifts, and key secrets to building successful online businesses in today's highly competitive landscape. Alex, an accomplished 8-figure e-commerce entrepreneur…
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What does it take to go from 100 followers to running a thriving SaaS company and revolutionizing creator-driven marketing?In this powerful episode of the Jared Goetz Podcast, Alex Heiden, founder of Paid, shares his incredible journey from building no-code apps to scaling multi-million-dollar software platforms. From accidentally going viral to la…
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In this deeply personal and transformative episode of the Zenhard Podcast, Jared Goetz sits down with Adam Jablin, a renowned recovery mentor, entrepreneur, and speaker, to dive into the journey from addiction to self-mastery. Adam shares his incredible story of overcoming alcoholism and addiction, breaking generational patterns, and finding true p…
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What does it take to go fromfacing massive lawsuits to managing$5.6 billion in assets? In this powerful episode of theZenhard Podcast,Lori Van Dusen, founder and CEO of LVW Advisors, shares her incredible journey through thehigh-stakes world of finance. From battlingone of the biggest banks in the world to becoming one ofForbes' #1 financial adviso…
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In this engaging episode of the Zenhard Podcast, Jared Goetz sits down with Chris Rivera, founder of E-Commerce Accountants and a seasoned entrepreneur in the digital economy. Together, they explore how to build and sustain wealth, the importance of adapting to change, and strategies for mastering the future of business in a rapidly evolving world.…
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In this intellectually rich episode of the Zenhard Podcast, Jared Goetz sits down with James Keyes, the former CEO of 7-Eleven and Blockbuster, to discuss transformative ideas on leadership, societal challenges, and the urgent need for education reform. Leveraging decades of experience leading global brands through pivotal transitions, Keyes outlin…
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In this transformative episode of the Zenhard Podcast, Jared Goetz (@jaredgoetz) sits down with Mason Doerr, a rising entrepreneur who shares his journey of radical accountability, manifestation, and achieving the impossible.Mason opens up about his transition from uncertainty during the COVID-19 pandemic to building a thriving business. Together, …
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In this transformative episode of the Zenhard Podcast, we sit down with Omar Elattar, host of "The Passionate Few" and a master of storytelling, manifestation, and overcoming life's challenges.We explore Omar's journey from personal struggles to interviewing some of the world's most iconic figures, uncovering the principles that have guided him alo…
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In this insightful episode of the Zenhard Podcast, Jared Goetz sits down with Matthew Fink, a seasoned entrepreneur and wellness enthusiast, to explore the intersections of health, mindfulness, and career success. From Matthew’s journey into intermittent fasting to his deep reflections on life’s true riches, this episode is packed with valuable tak…
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In this transformative episode of the Zenhard Podcast, Jared sits down with Lukas Pakter, the entrepreneurial powerhouse behind Squid House. Together, they discuss the real challenges of balancing ambition and self-awareness in a world dominated by social media and hustle culture. Lukas shares his journey through massive wins, painful losses, and t…
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"When our faith shifts, sometimes stories that once felt magical like Christmas feel complicated. We can still feel empowered by the magical parts of the story while leaving room for age appropriate theology and curiosity with the story." (Sarah Swartzendruber) Our episode this week is with Sarah Swartzendruber, Sarah is a mama, pastor, kid's faith…
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"I’m writing the story Bible I wish to see in the world. Not just for my daughter, not just for girls, but for all kids. Because when it comes to the love of God, everyone belongs.” Mariko Clark Our episode this week is with the author and illustrator of the new and wildly popular children's Bible story book, The Book of Belonging, Mariko Clark and…
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"We never had certainty we just thought we did. We convinced ourselves we could absolutely be sure. Now we know the truth and the next step is to find peace in that uncertainty and maybe even be happy about it, to have patience with everything unresolved in your heart and try to love the questions themselves." Marla Taviano in her new book “Whole” …
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"Our fight is not against men but against the systems of imbalanced power that keep women and nonbinary people from flourishing in the fullness of our gifts and offering this world the best we have to offer.” Liz Cooledge Jenkins Our episode this week is with Liz Cooledge Jenkins, preacher, writer and author of the book, Nice Churchy Patriarchy. Li…
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“If I widen the lens and see this concept from a new perspective, then yes, I do matter. I do have purpose. I’ve just redefined my view of purpose. I’ve taken the pressure off. And I’ve started to find fulfillment, contentment, and gratification in small actions that matter." Sarah W. Bragg Our episode this week is with Sarah W. Bragg, mom of two t…
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“Christian Nationalism is harmful to both Christianity and the country.” April Ajoy Our episode this week is with April Ajoy, author of the new book, Star-Spangled Jesus, former Christian Nationalist, podcast host and deconstructing mom of two. April has a fierce passion to recover from the wounds of toxic Christianity and how it plays out in the p…
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“Your soul is waiting for you to say yes to it again.” Rachel Marie Martin Our episode this week is with Rachel Marie Martin, the ever-popular social media site called "Finding Joy." She is the author of three books, the biological mom of seven, the bonus mom to four and the daughter of church planters. Rachel has a fierce passion to be vulnerable …
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Body and spirit marry in the chapel of the soul. They marry every minute of every day, in all activities and in all inactivity, in all thoughts and in all actions, or they marry not at all. (If) They don’t marry, we do not know sexuality with soul, and therefore our sexuality remains incomplete and insufficiently human. We do not find the soul of s…
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I found the freedom to take up space instead of trying to conform to a mold forged in the fire of the empire. The truth is that to become comfortable in my skin and with my scars, I had to leave a place where scars had to stay hidden. In the space of the wilderness, I learned to like all that was OTHER about me. And I hope you give yourself permiss…
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One purpose of healing is to be able to experience joy. Our subconscious seeks what is familiar. Joy without guilt is not familiar to many. (Chelsea Haines) We start off Season Six (can you believe it?) with Chelsea Haines, otherwise known as @yourgutsygal and the founder of the Gut Health Agency. So many of you have asked "what do we do now" to mo…
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In this episode of the Zenhard Podcast, Jared sits down with Alex Sedlak to dive deep into manifestation, authenticity, and how to balance personal growth with success. Alex shares his journey from viral TikTok star to building a lasting, genuine connection with his audience by staying true to himself. They explore: How manifestation helped Alex ki…
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In this engaging episode of the Zenhard Podcast, Jared Goetz is joined by entrepreneur Olivia Ormos to dive deep into the art of manifestation and its power to shape both personal and professional success. Olivia shares how her mindset shifts led her to manifest incredible experiences, like meeting Dave Matthews and The Rock, and how these principl…
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In this episode of the Zenhard Podcast, Joe Cohen, founder of SelfDecode, and Jared Goetz, a successful entrepreneur, explore the dynamic synergy between biohacking and entrepreneurship. Discover how cutting-edge biohacking techniques can help you optimize your physical health, mental clarity, and overall performance, driving success in both your p…
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We tend to look for answers outside ourselves. From books. Church. From friends or family. Even from society. We are called deeper, to sink down inside ourselves, where what we need is intertwined with what the Divine has to offer us. The place where we can trust and rest and then go and do. (Esther Goetz) Our guest this week is our very own Esther…
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“We are meaning-making machines. Chaos is uncomfortable, and thinking that everything that happens to us is due to random chance feels cold and impersonal. The brain seeks out patterns and order when they are not necessarily present.” Sarah Henn Hayward Our guest this week is Sarah Henn Hayward. Sarah is a mom of two, an author and our first self-p…
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Promote what you love instead of bashing what you hate. - Malynda Hale Malynda Hale, mom, activist, singer, author and actress, is our guest this week. Malynda uses her voice through her music and social media presence as an educating activist to effect change within social justice, female empowerment, LGBTQ+ rights, the Black Lives Matter movement…
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The Church needs to be called out and take responsibility for the damage it has done to people. The survivors should be heard. So no, I don't always talk about the good. Because until the darkness is exposed, and more people are removed from power that absolutely should not be in it, I will not be quiet. - Amber Schultz Amber Schultz, founder of Fu…
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Deconstruction invites us to become really honest about what we believe, why we hold those beliefs sacred, how they influence the way we relate to our creator, and who is actually served by our beliefs. If we trust the process enough to lower our walls and honestly engage with our questions, deconstruction promises to reveal undiscovered bias, limi…
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The question we need to ask is this one: Am I being pushed by fear or led by love? (Emily P. Freeman) We are absolutely thrilled to have Emily P. Freeman join us on the podcast this week. Emily is a New York Times best-selling author, a mom to three, a spiritual director and podcast hostess. Her most important work is to help create soul space and …
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I want to be a voice for the invisibles. (Leslie Nease) What do a Survivor contestant, deconstructing mama of four bigs, former Christian radio broadcaster, life and faith transitions coach, author and newly-minted podcast hostess have in common? They are all named Leslie Nease, our podcast guest this week. Leslie is quick-witted, well-spoken and p…
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*trigger warning* “My passion is to have a kinder and gentler world for our little people in faith spaces.” (Matt Shantz) Meet Matt Shantz, husband, dad, social worker in child and adolescent mental health, and spiritual mentor. Matt is our podcast guest this week and we are so grateful to have had one of the most complicated, difficult and needed …
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I’m trying to be in alignment with what I understand what the true principles of love to actually be. (Stephanie Stalvey) The passionate and kind Stephanie Stalvey is our guest this week on the podcast. Stephanie is a deconstructing mama of one, high school art teacher, and painter writer and comic book artist extraordinaire. She loves music and an…
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“God is like a fort, strong and secure with walls that are mighty and safe. Inside, there are hidden places to hold you when you’re scared or need a quiet place to rest.” What is God Like (Matthew Paul Turner & Rachel Held Evans) The spunky and amazing Matthew Paul Turner is our guest this week on the podcast. Matthew is a dad of three, New York Ti…
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“You aren't going to mess up your kids' theology." (Sarah Swartzendruber) The brilliant Sarah Swartzendruber is our guest this week on the podcast. Sarah is a mama, pastor, kid's faith curriculum creator (Zippee) and cohort leader for Parenting After Deconstruction. Most of the parents who reach out to her know what they don't want to teach their k…
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“Self-discovery is the goal. Self-compassion is the vibe." (Trisha Wilkerson) We start off Season Five with Trisha Wilkerson as our guest this week on the podcast. And it's really good! Trisha is a deconstructing mama, author, former pastor's wife turned certified Nutrition Coach. She works with individuals and groups, guiding a behavioral change p…
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On this episode of the Zenhard Podcast Jared sits down with Garrain Jones, Coach, Motivator, and Author. We touch on manifestation, a good morning routine, the state of education, and a whole host of other topics, you are not going to want to miss this.
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On this episode of the Zenhard Podcast Jared and Tomas sit down with Aron Lofton, professional MMA fighter, and real estate developer in San Antonio TX. We touch on the correlation between fighters and businessmen, risk management, and what it takes to be a man.
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