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Western Promises

WesternPromises

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Beaumont, Paris, and Kevin lead you through the troubled wasteland of funkopops, disney adults, marvel movies, and bad opinions to the refreshing oasis of good opinions, firm convictions, mushy buffet-style ideology, and genuine camaraderie. Also just kidding if youre upset at anything or whatever.
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A 360-degree view of Mormonism. We interview the best Mormon scholars, scientists, and clergy from all restoration branches, including LDS, Community of Christ, Strangites, Bickertonites, Temple Lot, Remnant, etc.
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The M-Balm Effect

The M-Balm Effect

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The M-Balm Effect, where raw reality meets hard banter! Hosted by M-Balm, this podcast is your one-stop shop for unfiltered discussions on real-life experiences, hot-button topics, and the downright bizarre, all served with a side of dark humor. Guests are invited onto the show to dive deep into the murky depths of eccentric conversations.
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We’re BACK for our 250th episode — and this one’s stacked with viral news, twisted updates, and a drink combo you’ll never forget.💀 In memory of Josh Saunders, aka King Cobra JFS, M-Balm mixes up a drink combo LIVE on the show in classic Cobra fashion. We honor the late YouTube personality and dive into the conspiracy theories surrounding his sudde…
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Unannounced Live Gospel Tangents recently surprised viewers with an unannounced live stream including a JFS book giveaway. This is a “late night edition” that offers a whirlwind update on my extensive travels, upcoming interviews, and even some “breaking news” from the Temple Lot Church. Despite a busy travel schedule and a significant backlog of v…
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Here is my JWHA recap 2025! I’ll show photos and give my reactions to the award winners! Check it out! Don’t miss our other Tangent Trips! https://gospeltangents.com/mormon_history/gt-trips/ Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved https://youtu.be/NL_LkWQBApk Fresh off the plane from Kansas City, I wanted to share a recap of my fantast…
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In this explosive episode of The M-Balm Effect, we dive deep into the murder of political commentator Charlie Kirk, unravel the chaos surrounding Iryna Zarutska's disturbing train incident, and ask the hard questions nobody else wants to touch.But this isn’t just about headlines—it’s about the dark undercurrent ripping through modern American socie…
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Today marks 168 years since the Mountain Meadows Massacre. Following last year’s JWHA conference in St George, Utah, I drove by the 4 monuments to the tragedy. Here is an in-depth account of the Mountain Meadows Massacre, an “unspeakable tragedy” that occurred on September 11, 1857. This episode is a somber reflection on this event, along with a co…
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Come along with me on a walking tour of Independence, Missouri! We’ll explore the historic Temple Lot Church (Hedrickites) and look at rare photographs from the Great Depression, when attempts were made to build the Jackson County Temple on the very cornerstones Joseph Smith laid in 1831. We’ll also stop by the Stone Church, the oldest church in Mi…
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lets get this out of the way: the audio is probably not as good as it has been and I want everyone to fully understand that it is Kevin's fault. Apparently his webcam has some sort of curse or possibly a djin living inside of it and when plugged in, injects an endless torrent of chaos and blood magik into his computer and all who are connected to i…
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This is a rebroadcast of my 2018 interview with John Hamer & Lachlan MacKay from the Community of Christ. They’ll bust some LDS myths about the Kirtland Temple, Word of Wisdom, Alice Cooper, and more! Check it out! https://youtu.be/NjnkS1Y-tls Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced…
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The Community of Christ has sold the Kirtland Temple and several Nauvoo properties to the LDS Church for a jaw-dropping $200 million. But RLDS finances are still shaky! That money is only expected to keep the church afloat for about five years. Historian John Hamer joins us to explain why he thinks the deal could have been much better, why he’s dis…
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Changes in RLDS Succession Last Spring, John Hamer gave a monumental address about RLDS succession at the JWHA Meetings that literally changed RLDS History. Pres-prophet Steven Veazey had announced his pending retirement in 2 years and said he would choose a successor. John argued in his address that if Veazey did so, it would make his presidency i…
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Welcome to Episode 249, where the wheels come off — literally and metaphorically.🚍 A tour bus flips on I‑90, people die, and somehow that’s not the dumbest thing happening in America this week.🪑 Cracker Barrel kills off the old man and his barrel, and the internet melts down harder than their mac n’ cheese while watching a jeans commercial.But that…
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John Hamer makes the surprising argument that the Auditorium is, in fact, a Community of Christ temple on the Temple Lot! This is a claim even many RLDS members have never heard. Why does he say this? It ties back to the unfinished temple project of the Church of Christ (Temple Lot), also known as the Hedrickites. For a time, the two churches were …
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The struggle for leadership of the LDS Church between Sidney Rigdon and Brigham Young still echoes today. One lasting outcome is the practice of dissolving the First Presidency at the prophet’s death—a move meant to underscore that Rigdon was never recognized as Joseph Smith’s rightful successor. Historian John Hamer of the Community of Christ join…
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Buckle up—or better yet, grab a Cutwater and brace for impact.In this episode, M-Balm and Austin sip on a few Cutwater Spirits flavors and try not to black out before the real insanity kicks in. Like the Buffalo mass shooter Payton Gendron, who now thinks his federal charges should be thrown out… because—get this—there were too many white people on…
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We'll discuss controversial RLDS beliefs with John Hamer, a Seventy with the Community of Christ. We're focusing on the 1844 succession crisis, its lasting impact on both the LDS and Community of Christ (formerly RLDS) churches. He's the co-author of Scattering of the Saints: Schism Within Mormonism. Don’t miss this fascinating discussion!https://y…
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I’m excited to welcome John Hamer back to the show. John is a Seventy in the Community of Christ and a remarkable historian of Restoration Churches. Earlier this month, he was in Utah for the 50th Anniversary of Sunstone, and today we’ll be talking about the many ways to Mormon, including some of the Restoration Churches/schismatic groups that were…
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Following the dissolution of her marriage, Sonia Johnson came up with her own view of gender essentialism and had some lesbian relationships. Was she bisexual, or a political lesbian? Dr Chris Talbot explains. Check out our conversation...https://youtu.be/glgWdkMlcJ8Don’t miss our other episodes with Dr Chris Talbot! https://gospeltangents.com/peop…
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In Episode #247 of The M-Balm Effect, M-Balm opens up about mental health, discussing the importance of communicating your experiences, breaking the stigma, and the personal realizations that come when we face our own mortality. We talk about the impact of losing people too soon and how it changes the way we live.M-Balm also teases his upcoming tra…
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This is a rebroadcast. The 1838 Mormon Missouri War remains a pivotal and often tragic chapter in Latter-day Saint history. We’re revisiting an interview with Steven LeSueur, an esteemed historian and author of what is considered by many to be the definitive book on the conflict, "The 1838 Mormon War in Missouri.” LeSueur, who sadly passed away in …
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Hey Facebook, I know probably out there enjoying your day, but right now we gotta talk about something for real right now. There's a serpent out there. You know what mean? It's came to me several times. You know what mean? Won't leave. You know what I mean? All I'm trying to tell you is you got somebody talking in your head. You know I mean? That i…
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This is a re-broadcast of my 2023 interview with Steve LeSueur. Unfortunately Steve passed away from pancreatic cancer on July 1, 2025.Mormons were part of the untamed world of the Wild West—complete with outlaws, shootouts, and the kind of drama you'd expect straight out of a western film. In this episode, Steve LeSueur shares the gripping story o…
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In this wild episode of The M-Balm Effect, we dive deep into some of the most talked-about and bizarre topics trending right now:✅ American Eagle x Sydney Sweeney Ad Backlash – Was the outrage real, or just a marketing ploy? Did American Eagle purposely stir controversy to boost their stock prices? We break it all down and expose how fake outrage d…
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We dive into some of the biggest and most shocking stories of this past week:🎡 Seabreeze Ride Safety Scare – A teen ride operator fired after failing to secure safety restraints on the Bear Trax kiddie ride at Seabreeze Amusement Park. Could this have been a disaster? We break it down.🕵️‍♂️ True Crime in Upstate New York – Luciano Frattolin, a fath…
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Come see the site where James Strang was killed as we explore the captivating history of Beaver Island, a unique gem in Lake Michigan, especially its ties to James Strang and his Mormon community.https://youtu.be/xdnR28tTeEsDon’t miss our other conversations about Strangism: https://gospeltangents.com/denominations/strangites/Copyright © 2025Gospel…
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See what a local historian thinks about James Strang as we tour the town of St James on Beaver Island, Michigan. Check out the conversation!https://youtu.be/wBl1C55HoyYDon’t miss our other conversations about Strangism: https://gospeltangents.com/denominations/strangites/Copyright © 2025Gospel TangentsAll Rights ReservedExcept for book reviews, no …
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Come along on this journey to Beaver Island, where James Strang was crowned King! We'll learn more about this early Mormon prophet. I’m taking you on a journey to Beaver Island, Michigan, a place central to the intriguing story of James Strang and his followers. You don't want to miss this!https://youtu.be/MPrutzK6ljQDon’t miss our other conversati…
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Should BYU be renamed Over Slavery? Many argue that BYU should be renamed since slavery was legalized in Utah? Bishop Abraham Smoot also owned slaves and his name is on the Smoot Administration Building. What do BYU alumni Paul Reeve & Christopher Rich think of this proposal?https://youtu.be/L3pHOIv6DIsDon’t miss our other conversations with Paul R…
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Welcome back to The M-Balm Effect, where nothing is off-limits and everything gets broken down! In this wild episode, we dive into the viral Coldplay concert kiss cam moment that exposed a possible CEO-HR affair, now under investigation after lead singer Chris Martin called them out on stage. 🚨Next, we cover the bizarre and tragic story of a 61-yea…
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Recently, I had the fascinating opportunity to delve into the beliefs practices, and Strangite priesthood views with Gary Weber of the Strangite Church, a lesser-known branch of Mormonism. This discussion sheds light on many intriguing aspects of their faith, highlighting both commonalities and distinct differences from the more widely known LDS (L…
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In this raw and unfiltered episode, M-Balm unleashes on some of the wildest recent headlines:👀 Sodus Point Scandal – A disgusting act of public indecency was caught on camera during a family-friendly event in the bay. Why are people treating public spaces like their OnlyFans set? We expose the crybaby who outed themselves after episode #242!🧟‍♂️ So…
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🎙️ Welcome to Episode #242 of The M-Balm Effect!🦁 Rochester, NY is officially wildin’, and we’re not just talking about the streets, we’re talking about a literal mountain lion caught on Ring doorbell camera! 😳 Curtis Jones went viral after witnessing the beast firsthand, and we’ve got the footage and the breakdown. What would YOU do if you ran int…
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Fans of the genre rejoice, for our flag was still there. So far, the experience has been a mixed bag but eager listeners will be champing at the bit right up until the doors unlock and crisp recycled air greets their glassy eyes and chapped lips. The routine is comfortable and expected; autopilot. highway hypnosis. is this new? is there something n…
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Welcome to an exploration of one of the most distinctive branches of Mormonism: the Strangite Church. We will discuss Strangite women's role in priesthood. While many are familiar with the larger Latter-day Saint movements, the Strangites offer a fascinating glimpse into different interpretations and practices rooted in early Restorationism. Based …
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Gary Weber, a member of the Strangite Church, shared unique insights into their doctrines, including polygamy, baptism for the dead, and their distinctive interpretation of the "stick of Judah" prophecy.https://youtu.be/_e1Zm605gtE 0:00 Distinctive Stance on Polygamy The Strangite Church believes that polygamy is an eternal principle and can be acc…
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It’s always fun to talk to someone from the Strangite Church, officially known as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Strangite) Based in Burlington, Wisconsin, this branch of the Latter-day Saint movement offers a distinctive perspective on the succession of Joseph Smith and the ongoing divine restoration.https://youtu.be/RUL8rF0hb4US…
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This is a re-broadcast of my 2023 interview with Lynne Whitesides. She passed away from pneumonia/leukemia on July 7, 2025. We miss her.Lynne Whitesides was the first person punished in the September Six. She shares her story of why she wasn't excommunicated, who was involved, and where she is on her spiritual journey. Check out our conversation...…
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Join us on a fascinating journey to Voree/Burlington, Wisconsin, to explore the unique history and beliefs of a Latter-day Saint group often referred to as the Strangites. This isn't the commonly known LDS Church; rather, it's a distinct branch founded by James Strang. He started a rival Mormon Church in Voree/Burlington, Wisconsin back in 1844 and…
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I've visited some temples recently! "Gospel Tangents" recently hosted a surprise live session, a "late night unannounced edition," much to the delight of its "night owl" viewers. I shared a whirlwind of Temples, Travels, updates, upcoming content, and even some breaking news from various Restorationist traditions.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw_…
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Matt Harris told me that only 30% of his research went into his book "2nd Class Saints" due to space restrictions. What was left out? We'll find out and also get a preview of his upcoming biography of Hugh B Brown. Check out our conversation...https://youtu.be/fQBhV5kMdZ4Don't miss our other conversations with Matt: https://gospeltangents.com/peopl…
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We're discussing polygamy in John Turner's Joseph Smith Biography and giving away a book!https://youtube.com/live/09QmyE6WweUDon’t miss our other conversations with John: https://gospeltangents.com/people/john-turner/Copyright © 2025Gospel TangentsAll Rights ReservedExcept for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission We…
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🎸 The M-Balm Effect Episode #241 brings in special guest Ron Ward Jr., guitarist from the Rochester, NY metal band Divine Fallacy, for a deep, honest, and powerful conversation you won’t want to miss!M-Balm and Ron dive into Ron's musical journey, his love for guitar, and the life experiences that shaped him — from growing up in a different era to …
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In our final conversation with Dan and Ann Hatch of Christ's Church, we'll get into whether they accept black Church members. Do they ordain blacks? (Many fundamentalists reject the 1978 revelation on priesthood from Spencer W Kimball in the mainstream LDS Church.) We'll also discuss why outsiders can't attend priesthood meetings, solemn assemblies…
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Joseph Smith's arrest for treason in having the Nauvoo Expositor destroyed led to his death. He didn't use habeas corpus to get out of this jam, and it cost him his life. Dr John Turner shares his reactions to Joseph's life. Check out our conversation...https://youtu.be/pcN0sdqR0wsDon’t miss our other conversations with John: https://gospeltangents…
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We're diving into Nauvoo polygamy & Joseph Smith's many wives. How often did he have sexual relations with his wives? Was it less frequent than many think? John Turner attempts to answer. Check out our conversation...https://youtu.be/1S-ZRA7kFcQDon’t miss our other conversations with John: https://gospeltangents.com/people/john-turner/Copyright © 2…
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The origins of polygamy are murky. Was there an 1831 revelation on the topic? What was the nature of the Fanny Alger relationship? We'll also discuss Zion's Camp, and Joseph Smith's dog, Old Major, who caused some issues with the troops. How did Liberty Jail affect Joseph Smith & the Church? John Turner tackles these questions. Check out our conver…
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🎙️ Welcome to another jaw-dropping episode of The M-Balm Effect! In this week’s episode, we dive deep into tragedy, controversy, and the strange coincidences gripping our society right now.🚨 Topics Covered in This Episode:Jonathan Joss, the voice actor behind King of the Hill’s iconic John Redcorn, was shot and killed in a heated neighbor dispute. …
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What does John Turner believe about the Golden Plates? Were they made of tin as Dan Vogel asserts? What about the First Vision controversy? Does John think Joseph was a pious fraud? Did Joseph take advantage of Martin Harris? John answers these and other question. Check out our conversation...Copyright © 2025Gospel TangentsAll Rights ReservedExcept…
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Fawn Brodie, Richard Bushman, and Dan Vogel have the 3 most popular biographies on Joseph Smith prior to John Turner's latest. Which is best? John will answer that and we'll discuss the First Vision anachronisms. Check out our conversation...https://youtu.be/BOTVrDQJGbcDon’t miss our other conversations with John: https://gospeltangents.com/people/…
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