The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson is where real conversations meet real ministry. We tackle the hard questions facing today’s Black Church—from leadership and discipleship to cultural shifts and spiritual relevance. Hosted by Rev. Dr. J. Wendell Mapson Jr., this channel is a space for pastors, ministry leaders, and believers who are ready to reflect, wrestle, and reimagine what church can look like in today’s world. New episodes drop every other Wednesday with honest insights, thoughtful ...
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Ep 08 - Built to Imagine, Called to Lead: A Conversation with Rev. Dr. Kevin R. Johnson
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1:01:45From two rejection letters to the pulpit of Abyssinian. In this episode of The Ministry Exchange, Rev. Dr. Kevin R. Johnson unpacks a journey marked by resilience, prophetic courage, and legacy leadership. Now the 21st Senior Pastor of the historic Abyssinian Baptist Church in Harlem, Dr. Johnson reflects on what it means to lead with conviction—ev…
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Ep 07 - Ministry In Every Key: A Conversation with Rev. Dr. Alyn E. Waller
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53:37In this episode of The Ministry Exchange, Dr. Alyn E. Waller returns to explore the sacred intersection of music and ministry—and why, for him, both have always been essential. Raised in a parsonage where his mother played piano and family harmonies sounded like Sam Cooke and James Brown, Dr. Waller found his voice early and never stopped using it—…
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Ep 06 - Leadership That Builds People: A Conversation with Bishop Keith W. Reed Sr.
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1:05:43In this episode of The Ministry Exchange, Bishop Keith W. Reed Sr. shares the powerful leadership principles that have sustained his 43-year pastorate at Sharon Baptist Church in Philadelphia. With wisdom forged through decades of ministry, Bishop Reed recounts a pivotal shift in his leadership: choosing not to be a “one-man band,” but an orchestra…
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Ep 05 - Fruit That Remains: A Conversation with Rev. Dr. Lester W. Taylor Jr.
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1:09:36What does it mean to lead with vision, grace, and grit—while staying rooted in both tradition and innovation? In this episode of The Ministry Exchange, Rev. Dr. Lester W. Taylor Jr. joins Dr. J. Wendell Mapson Jr. for a rich conversation about legacy leadership, spiritual discernment, and building ministry that lasts. From growing up in South Jerse…
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Ep 04 - Built For This: A Conversation with Rev. Dr. Danielle L. Brown
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1:03:38What does it look like to lead with clarity, courage, and consistency—across pulpits, classrooms, and communities? In this episode of The Ministry Exchange, Rev. Dr. Danielle L. Brown joins Dr. J. Wendell Mapson Jr. for a powerful conversation about calling, character, and the kind of leadership the Church needs today. From receiving her call to pr…
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Ep 03 - The Call, The Cost and The Closure: A Conversation with Bishop Walter Thomas Sr.
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1:35:18What does it take to finish well—and set others up to begin? In this powerful episode of The Ministry Exchange, Rev. Dr. J. Wendell Mapson Jr. sits down with his lifelong friend and ministry brother, Bishop Walter S. Thomas Sr., Pastor Emeritus of New Psalmist Baptist Church. After 50 years of leading one of the nation’s most influential congregati…
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Ep 02 - Legacy, Ego and the Gospel: A Conversation with Rev. Dr. Alyn E. Waller
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42:48What happens when ministry becomes performance—and pastors become personalities? In this episode of The Ministry Exchange, Dr. J. Wendell Mapson Jr. sits down with longtime friend and ministry peer Rev. Dr. Alyn E. Waller, Senior Pastor of Enon Tabernacle Baptist Church in Philadelphia. Together, they confront one of the most urgent questions facin…
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Ep 01 - Is the Black Church Losing Its Fire? | The Ministry Exchange
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23:50Church attendance is shifting. Leadership styles are evolving. Worship doesn’t sound—or feel—the same. So here’s the question no one wants to ask out loud: Is the Black Church still on fire… or just burning out? In this premiere episode, Dr. J. Wendell Mapson Jr. pulls back the curtain on the current state of the Black Church—what’s changed, what’s…
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